"Is there a Merry Middle Before the Happy Ending?" - query from naive newcomer

[bcohen7719]

Still new to all this, I hear about the "Happy Ending" and understand what this means. However, do sensual or erotic masseurs stay strictly therapeutic until the last 5 minutes? [Please don't attack me for a dumb question...]

 

BC

[josephga]

it varies. some are strictly therapeutic until the final 5 minutes just a hand release at the end but nothing sensual in between. imo with sensual there should be this huge build up to the release, with teasing of the erotic zones (not just the dick or balls) but tummy back inner thighs and other areas through out the session. some say sensual but then at the end there's no release, then erotic normally means the massage is focused on erotic elements and there maybe nothing therapeutic at all but a release at the end. So communication is very important. sensual and erotic doesn't mean the same thing to everyone. Me as an example I offered 2 types of sessions therapeutic only or a therapeutic/sensual combination. I specialized in deep tissue work and made it a practice to refuse those seeking strictly erotic work. imo there's Difference between a massage with therapeutic sensual elements with a release compared to performing jack off shows.

Edited January 11, 2011 by josephga

[Diverdan]

For what it is worth, an erotic massage should combine sensual elements throughout the massage, not just a three-five minute hand job at the end. There are so many sensual/erotic places on our bodies, and a good therapist knows how to use those spots to create a sensual/erotic experience. This usually involves the inner thighs, feet, chest, stomach, groin, ass, etc. Some therapists are very good at a sensual massage, but do not offer specific erotic massage, which usually means a release of some sort. Some will offer prostate massage as part of the experience, which usually will mean using a finger or two to massage the prostate during masturbation, or on occassion even oral activity. Some times those activities can even be mutual, although the more involved may consider that crossing the line to an escorts work. As always, communication is the best approach to take. If a therapist provides erotic massage, ask specifically what that includes and what it does not include. If the therapist offers sensual massage, again ask specifically what that entails, so there are no misunderstanding on either side of the equation. Most therapists want you to be happy when you leave, so in my experience the good ones are happy to discuss what boundaries you might have and what boundaries they have. If you have further questions, please send me a pm.

Good luck in finding what you want.

DD

[josephga]

I knew this guy once someone asked him while on the table if he did prostate massage. he said i'm sorry sir i haven't a clue what that is. lol I said you dont actually think he believed that do you? He said joe i'm not sticking my finger up some guys ass. i'm like why not just say sorry i don't do prostate massage instead of pretending you don't know what it is

[+ glutes]

A refresher for folk shere:

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/showthread.php?62163-How-about-a-Happy-Beginning&highlight=beginning

[Midweststudentnyc]

I also like a bit of middle before the final jerk-off. Most of the guys on MassageM4M mostly do a massage, flip you over, massage some more, and then just go at it fast and furious. The only one I consistently find is erotic throughout (constantly caressing the erection, ass, etc) while he actually give a real massage is Rick

http://www.massagem4m.com/ny/new-york-city/13669/

[+ beethoven]

Is there a middle before the happy ending?

 

I also like a bit of middle before the final jerk-off. Most of the guys on MassageM4M mostly do a massage, flip you over, massage some more, and then just go at it fast and furious. The only one I consistently find is erotic throughout (constantly caressing the erection, ass, etc) while he actually give a real massage is Rick

http://www.massagem4m.com/ny/new-york-city/13669/

 

Hey, Midwest student: I just followed your link to Rick's ad on M4M, and he doesn't say anything about sensual or erotic. Sounds strictly therapeutic! I've seen his ad, but have avoided him for not being erotic. Are you sure you gave us the correct link?

[josephga]

Hey, Midwest student: I just followed your link to Rick's ad on M4M, and he doesn't say anything about sensual or erotic. Sounds strictly therapeutic! I've seen his ad, but have avoided him for not being erotic. Are you sure you gave us the correct link?

 

at the top of the ad right corner under type of massage it says therapeutic/ sensual

[josephga]

One thing is allot of massage therapist will not promise a release out of fear of loosing their license. a massage therapist promising a release in the eyes of law enforcement is the same as a escort promising to suck your dick or fuck your ass for a fee. a release is prostitution in the eyes of the law. In some states they actually call it masturbation for hire. Best approach is to ask if the massage is full body? if they say yes there you go. Don't ask if there's a release or happy ending you will make a nervous masseur pass you by. I lost a few clients because I wouldn't promise a release in a email

Edited January 11, 2011 by josephga

[+ beethoven]

there certainly should be a "merry middle!"

 

No, it's not a dumb question at all. I've found that masseurs are all over the lot with the words "sensual" and "erotic." As josephga said, some are afraid to promise erotic because they fear prosecution. I had a massage last night which the masseur's ad (on M4M) described as "sensual." Shaving, blow jobs, fucking, showering together; this is sensual? I wonder what he considers "erotic" to be! And this was a masseur, not an escort. I've also had good massges advertised as sensual, where there wasn't a sensual aspect at all. Yes, you need to ask in advance; I ask if there's lots of body contact, mutual touching, and I tell him that I like to be massaged all over ("full body massage" as josephga puts it). I ask if the massage is done in the nude, and I never ask if there's a release or a "happy ending." I let him know that I want sensual/erotic aspects throughout, not just in the last five minutes. And then I ask, "Is this the kind of massage you do?"

[josephga]

I use to ask everyone that called if they had any questions? some would say no. but i told them anyway lol

I normally told people I offered 2 options. therapeutic or therapeutic/ sensual combo. that its a real therapeutic massage head to toe med to deep touch with stretching with sensual aspects through out and that unlike most that spent a large amount of time on the back area that i spent a equally large amount of time on the legs and gluts. If they asked if i would be nude i said sometimes if requested. i had some clients that were nudist and just wanted you nude for that reason alone. If they asked if they could touch i said respectable touching only, example a brush a cross the chest, legs thighs or tummy areas. I also Told them no release for me and that my massages contained no oral or anal contact. and that at the end of the seasons theirs a hot steam towel wipe down followed by a iced cold bottle of spring water to go. I also charged the same price regardless of the massage.

[Studman69]

One thing is allot of massage therapist will not promise a release out of fear of loosing their license. a massage therapist promising a release in the eyes of law enforcement is the same as a escort promising to suck your dick or fuck your ass for a fee. a release is prostitution in the eyes of the law. In some states they actually call it masturbation for hire. Best approach is to ask if the massage is full body? if they say yes there you go. Don't ask if there's a release or happy ending you will make a nervous masseur pass you by. I lost a few clients because I wouldn't promise a release in a email

[Studman69]

Also, I would not want to promise any activity, then find when someone arrives, that I cannot find the enthusiasm. Awkw

Awkward for both!

[+ HornyRetiree]

imo there's Difference between a massage with therapeutic sensual elements with a release compared to performing jack off shows

Well said - I prefer serious massages with a Masseur comfortable enough to include sensual and understanding that it all energy and a release at the end is still energy moving.