Your Favorite G.W. Bush Blunder

[Huey]

I just can't get it out of my head. You know like when you get a song that keeps playing over and over again in your mind. Well in this case it might have been a song, in part The only thing missing was the Roger Daltrey scream! }>

 

"Fool me once and shame (actual elapsed time about a day }> ) and shame on you; fool me, won't get fooled again."

 

What is your favorite G.W. blunder?

 

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[Guest fukamarine]

It was when he was being introduced to the young Welsh singer

(I forget her first name) Church, presumably after she had sung for him, and he asked,

 

"And where are you from"?

 

"I'm from South Wales, Mr. President"

 

"Oh, and what state is that in?"

 

fukamarine

[Will]

And this is the towering intellect who wants to attack Iraq, which might very well set off World War III.

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>And this is the towering intellect

 

Yes, this is the towering intellect who has boxed every single Democrat into a corner and forced the UN into a place where they have to say "yes" or they're irrelevant.

 

If I recall correctly, and I do, Clinton was the "brilliant" one whose brilliance in handling Osama's (several) attacks on America ultimately resulted in over 3,000 American deaths.

 

If the measure of one's intellect were the ability to speak in front of crowds (daily, and with every word you say scrutinized, I might add), then I suspect 90% of Mensa members' intellects would be found to be less than "towering".

 

Ann Coulter is right, when the left has run out of arguments, they simply call their opponents stupid.

 

Intellectually yours,

 

FFF

[Guest Chazzz69]

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>

>Ann Coulter is right, when the left has run out of

>arguments, they simply call their opponents stupid.

>

FFF, I have to agree with you on this. Its rather amazing how many times I have watch this play out here in my fair city of Washington,DC. Whenever a liberal starts to lose and argument they get loud and start questioning the intelligence of the adversary.

 

BTW, who was it who said he invented the Internet and was a role model for Love Story?

 

Chazzz69

[Guest ncm2169]

Yeah. Right. "W" ain't a moron. And Ann Coulter is more than a guttersniping cunt who has to publish her own garbage 'cuz mainstream media won't.

 

What's next? Defending David Geffen for blocking beach access in Malibu?

 

Pardon me but I have to go puke. x(

 

FFF, just see if I ever again defend your right to make purse jokes.

[Guest Kenny021]

I can't believe that there are actually individuals here who talk about Ann Coulter as if she is anything more than a frustrated dried up cunt who exists to bash the democrats. That woman is soooooo UNlikeable (that's putting it mildly) that given a choice of spending time with Saddam and her I'de pick Saddam. She really loves fags, especially those who participate on this forum.

As for trying to defend Bush's mistakes, he makes Dan Quale look like Eienstein.

The only reason he is president is that he was APPOINTED by the republican majority of the Supreme Court. Just remember that he LOST the popular vote. Actually, the only reason he won the Republican nomination is that he BOUGHT IT...had more money than any of the other candidates and therefore dropped out of the race. As for his behavior during the 9/ll catastrophy, ANY, repeat ANY elected official with an once of brains in his head would have done exactly the same thing. That is a no brainer.

Trying to blame Clinton for 9/ll is like blaming Daddy Bush for the crisis now going on with Sadam.

[Guest ncm2169]

Correction. Strike "mainstream media." Make that, "NO ONE ELSE will publish her."

[Guest ncm2169]

One of my favs was, when he heard about the Log Cabin Republicans, he wondered why people were still born in them. x(

[Guest Jerry]

Commentator Molly Ivins of Texas has combined some of his most entertaining slips in two light pieces from NPR:

 

http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/me/20010215.me.07.ram

 

http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/me/20010911.me.16.ram

 

Yes, the second one is from the early morning program on 9/11/01 before NPR broke away from its normal programming to cover the tragedy.

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>I can't believe that there are actually individuals here who

>talk about Ann Coulter as if she is anything more than a

>frustrated dried up cunt who exists to bash the democrats.

>That woman is soooooo UNlikeable (that's putting it mildly)

>that given a choice of spending time with Saddam and her

>I'de pick Saddam.

 

Like I said, if they don't have an argument, the liberals just call people names.

 

 

>As for trying to defend Bush's mistakes, he makes Dan Quale

>look like Eienstein.

 

Either:

1. It's a typo.

2. You don't know how to spell Einstein.

3. It was an attempt at irony.

 

 

>The only reason he is president is that he was APPOINTED by

>the republican majority of the Supreme Court.

 

Here we go rewriting history - AGAIN. By the way, the vote stopping the count was 7-2, NOT 5-4. The 5-4 vote concerned the remedy. Look it up.

 

 

>Just remember

>that he LOST the popular vote.

 

Which is meaningless since he (and every other president) was elected by the electoral college and not the popular vote.

 

 

>Actually, the only reason he

>won the Republican nomination is that he BOUGHT IT...had

>more money than any of the other candidates and therefore

>dropped out of the race.

 

More historical revision.

 

 

>As for his behavior during the

>9/ll catastrophy, ANY, repeat ANY elected official with an

>once of brains in his head

 

As opposed to another part of the body?

 

 

>would have done exactly the same

>thing.

 

Now you're quoting Al Sharpton. Eek! ARE you Al Sharpton?

 

 

 

 

>Trying to blame Clinton for 9/ll is like blaming Daddy Bush

>for the crisis now going on with Sadam.

 

Actually, it's not.

 

 

Friskily yours,

 

FFF

[Guest gentle guy]

Whenever Dubya (or any other official, for that matter) says "nuculer," I want to scream. It's NUCLEAR. I know it's a common mispronunciation that is even discussed in the American Heritage Dictionary, but it drives me up a wall.

[BuckyXTC]

Normally, I'm a pretty nonviolent sort of guy, but when I see and have to listen to Ann Coulter, I feel the uncontrollable urge to bitch-slap her. She is one cryptofascist cunt!

 

And as for dear little Shrub, just take a look at his record in terms of running his own businesses. All fiascos, except for his little investment in the Texas Rangers, which was initially underwritten for him by his daddy's pals so they could help him make a few bucks at the expense of Texas taxpayers. I could give a rat's ass what Ann Coulter says about him or against liberals, he is a certifiable moron. Does anyone seriously believe Bush attended Yale because of his intelligence? He attended Yale, because Daddy Bush attended Yale, and had the connections to get his little sprout in, And let's not forget how Daddy Bush's other connects helped Shrub. Kept him out of combat during VietNam.

 

The whole Bush/Republican agenda at the moment is to divert attention from the shitty economy by getting us into another war so that folks will rally around the flag. Of course, major economists are saying another war will only make the economy worse. Shrub has some psychological fetish with earning Daddy Bush's respect by taking Saddam out. We've all seen how successful he's been in capturing or killing Osama. You notice they don't talk about Osama much anymore. Shrub is dumber than dogshit. An incontrovertible fact, so Bushies might as well just accept it.

[Guest ncm2169]

So, FFF doesn't like calling people names. Apparently Ms. Coulter can dish it out but her defenders can't take it. :-(

 

Obviously, the Bushies here haven't read their latest copies of Karl Rove's talking points. For Chrissake, even W no longer claims Osama is a basis for offing Saddam. (You like to look things up, FFF, read his U.N. speech).

 

We W detractors have no arguments, FFF? Well, here's a couple:

 

1. While I readily concede that Saddam's a totally bad actor and should be taken out sooner rather than later, I ARGUE that all along this has been more about settling an old score for Poppy. Which, by the way, wouldn't have to be settled if the wuss had had the balls to finish the job in the first place. :o

 

2. I ARGUE that the timing of this is all about the midterm November elections. If you don't believe that, you're living in a Rush Limbaugh dream world. x(

 

P.S. Sooooo, FFF is or is not defending that pig Geffen? Oops, more name calling. :+

[bluenix]

What Happened to Post No. 6?

 

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[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>Shrub is dumber than dogshit. An incontrovertible fact

 

Since it's a fact, could you please share with the class four FACTUAL examples that prove your factual assertion?

 

Breathlessly yours,

 

FFF

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>Whenever Dubya (or any other official, for that matter) says

>"nuculer," I want to scream. It's NUCLEAR.

 

What I really hate is PEE-can - it's puh-CAHN!

 

Linguistically yours,

 

FFF

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>So, FFF doesn't like calling people names.

 

Boy are you WRONG! I'm actually rather fond of calling people names. However, I use them AFTER I make my point. I don't use them as a substitute for one.

 

 

>Obviously, the Bushies here haven't read their latest copies

>of Karl Rove's talking points. For Chrissake, even W no

>longer claims Osama is a basis for offing Saddam.

 

Huh? He never did claim that. If UBL had never been spawned, we still would need to take out Saddam.

 

 

(You like

>to look things up, FFF, read his U.N. speech).

 

I did read it. You, however, apparently didn't understand it.

 

 

>We W detractors have no arguments, FFF? Well, here's a

>couple:

>

>1. While I readily concede that Saddam's a totally bad

>actor and should be taken out sooner rather than later, I

>ARGUE that all along this has been more about settling an

>old score for Poppy.

 

Don't you love it when people have deep psychological insights into people they've never met?

 

 

>2. I ARGUE that the timing of this is all about the midterm

>November elections.

 

Be sure to be on the look-out for all those black helicopters when you go to the polls. That is, if you even are registered to vote.

 

 

>P.S. Sooooo, FFF is or is not defending that pig Geffen?

 

How exactly is David Geffen germane to this discussion?

 

 

Irrepressibly yours,

 

FFF

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

RE: What Happened to Post No. 6?

 

Enquiring minds would like to know.

 

Curiously yours,

 

FFF

[Paul Revere]

FFF;

 

I can't believe that you are commenting on intelligence, when in previous posts you have demonstrated that you don't know the differnece between "threw" and "through"

[Flower]

>Like I said, if they don't have an argument, the liberals

>just call people names.

 

So tell us, FFF, does that apply to your posts on here also? (I mean the name calling, of course, since no one here would accuse you of having a liberal bone in your body).

No offense, just curious }>

 

>>Trying to blame Clinton for 9/ll is like blaming Daddy Bush

>>for the crisis now going on with Sadam.

>

>Actually, it's not.

>FFF

 

Is there more to that answer, like a well reasoned opinion, or something? I'd seriously be interested in how YOU distinguish the two.

 

I mean, they ARE very distinguishable, so let me try.

 

The interpretation of events hinting at 9-11 was mainly a failing of the intelligence community and the importance of those events was not properly understood nor relayed to the President for him to make the correct political decision and protective reaction. WHEREAS, completing the job and getting Sadam out of power while we and our allies were there in Iraq and only days away from a complete victory, was such an overwhelming act of common sense that the majority of people on the street as well as in congress wanted it done, As did Generals and Powel and Schwarzkopf and other more knowledgeable military strategists.

 

But it was then President Bush that went against COMMONSENSE, both public and world opinion, the opinion of his generals and intelligence agencies and the majority of congress so that he "could bring the boys home."

 

This was a short war, but possibly he was reminiscing back to the Christmas sound of "bringing the boys home" in WW II that he remembered and we see in WW II movies all the time (and which you probably remember from being of that time) and got caught up with the sentiment--who knows, but him--but that was a war lasting years not months. I really believe then President Bush thought he was making a decision that would be popular with the voters and keep him in office a second term. Instead, he made a decision that was against common sense, against military recommendations, and against public and world opinion--and those kind don't come around too often.

 

So actually, I agree with you, FFF, the comparison is invalid :+

 

 

Flower :*

[BewareofNick]

>>And this is the towering intellect

>

>Yes, this is the towering intellect who has boxed every

>single Democrat into a corner and forced the UN into a place

>where they have to say "yes" or they're irrelevant.

>

>If I recall correctly, and I do, Clinton was the "brilliant"

>one whose brilliance in handling Osama's (several) attacks

>on America ultimately resulted in over 3,000 American

>deaths.

>

>If the measure of one's intellect were the ability to speak

>in front of crowds (daily, and with every word you say

>scrutinized, I might add), then I suspect 90% of Mensa

>members' intellects would be found to be less than

>"towering".

>

>Ann Coulter is right, when the left has run out of

>arguments, they simply call their opponents stupid.

>

>Intellectually yours,

>

>FFF

 

Right. This man is the offspring of George "Barf on the Japanese" Bush who HAD SADDAM HUSSEIN DEAD TO RIGHTS AND FUCKED IT UP!! This isn't about anything other than correcting his Daddy's mistakes.

 

Of course, you also seriously undermine your credibility when you quote someone as vile and disgusting as Ann Coulter too.

 

Quoth the bitch:

 

We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.

 

Shows a severe lack of comprehension about American values and Christianity, but then again, this is W's plan for iraq, isn't it? God help us all.

[Guest YR]

RE: What Happened to Post No. 6?

 

It was a post by HooBoy which he obviously decided to delete.

[duke37]

Ok Flower, you are completely wrong about your assertion that military leaders supported going on to Baghdad during the Gulf War. Schwarzkopf and Powell are both on record as opposing continuing military action. They both reported to Bush that all military objectives had been achieved. Any continuance of the war would have been for political objectives only.

 

However Schwarzkopf does admit to being "suckered" by the Iraqi generals negotiating the cease-fire. They asked for permision to use helicopter to move people for recovery purposes. All the road and bridges were at that point in rubble. He agreed. Of course Saddam used the helicopters and surviving artillery to slaughter the Shiite rebels that would have overthrown Saddam.

 

I don't think you can find much contemporary support for a "drive to Baghdad" from congressional or other world leaders either.

 

Jeff

[BewareofNick]

"If you want to keep the peace, you've got to have the authorization to use force."

-- White House, Sep. 19, 2002

 

"You see, the Senate wants to take away some of the powers of the administrative branch."

-- If he'd paid more attention during his politics classes, he might have said "executive branch" here, White House, Sep. 19, 2002

 

"And so, they -- the burden of proof is -- must be place squarely on their shoulders. But there's no negotiations about whether or not they've been telling the truth or not."

-- Dubya: seer of all things true, and master of verb disagreement, White House, Sep. 19, 2002

 

"American children are not born knowing what they should cherish -- are not born knowing why they should cherish American values. A love of democratic principles must be taught."

-- I guess "these truths" are not "self-evident" after all. Rather than government deriving its just powers from the consent of those governed, it assures its power through training children to "love democracy". Scary. White House, Sep. 17, 2002

 

"Twenty-eight percent of eighth graders do not know the reason why the Civil War was fought."

-- I guess there was only one reason in Dubya's history books, White House, Sep. 17, 2002

 

"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."

-- Dubya attempting to co-opt Texas and Tennessee into his verbal wreckage. The saying he was trying to dredge up was "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." Even better, Dubya was speaking at a literature magnet school. I'm sure it was a learning experience for the kids. East Literature Magnet School, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002 (and who knew he was a Star Trek fan? )

 

"We didn't need any more theory in Washington. We needed people that actually done."

-- On his selection of Secretary of Education Rod Paige, East Literature Magnet School, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002

 

"Especially important in a time of war that our children understand the context of why we fight."

-- Equally important that the President speaks in coherent English in front of our children, East Literature Magnet School, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002

 

"When we were kids, a lot of us were kids, growing up, oceans separated us from danger."

-- Charting new verbal territory on his "America protected by (or in this case, Americans separated by) oceans" theme, East Literature Magnet School, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002

 

"And all our history says we believe in liberty and justice for all, that when we see oppression, we cry."

-- That's what it says. Dubya majored in history so you can trust him. East Literature Magnet School, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002

 

"[sen. Fred Thompson has] still got some -- he's got a task ahead there on the floor of the Senate, and that's to make sure I get a homeland security department that is unfettered from government rules and bureaucracies, a homeland security department that will allow this President and future Presidents to move people to the right place at the right time, in order to protect the homeland from an enemy which still hates us."

-- By all means, untie Dubya's cabinet from the pesky encumbrance of "government rules". Rules are for terrorists, after all. Lamar Alexander for Senate Luncheon, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002

 

"Either way, you'll find the speeches are probably too long and the accommodations on Air Force One is just fine."

-- Lamar Alexander for Senate Luncheon, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002

 

"I want you to remind your children, with all -- in the midst of all this war talk, the midst of the -- on the television screens seeing our troops, and all the stuff going on -- remind them that this mighty nation went into a country as we upheld that doctrine."

-- Kids love Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, cotton candy, and now... doctrine, Lamar Alexander for Senate Luncheon, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002

 

"Speaking about barbaric regimes, we must deal with probably one of the most -- not probably -- one of the most real threats we face, and that is the idea of a barbaric regime teaming up with a terrorist network and providing weapons of mass destruction, to hold the United States and our allies and our friends blackmail."

-- Besides being logically murky in the "let's go to war to prevent maybes and what-ifs" department, it's grammatically "interesting", too, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002

 

"The United States will remain strong in our conviction that we must not, and will not, allow the world's worst leaders to hold the United States and our friends and allies blackmail, or threaten us with the world's worst weapons."

-- Reissuing the phrase "hold the United States blackmail" for our enjoyment, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002

 

"Across America today, Americans are reciting 31 world -- words that help define our country. In once sentence we affirm our form of government, our belief in human dignity, our unity as a people, and our reliance on Providence. And this pledge takes on a special meaning in a time of war. Our enemies hate these words. That's what you've got to understand. They hate the words, and they want to erase them. We're determined to stand for these words, and live them out in our lives. Our allegiance has never been stronger. We've never been more determined. And we must work to teach our children to love our nation as much as we do."

-- And if you don't agree with him on the propriety of the wording of the Pledge of Allegiance and the import of its daily rote recitation, you, my friend, are an un-American, un-Christian terrorist, East Literature Magnet School, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002

 

"He's a soldier in the army of compassion here in Nashville, Tennessee. He's a part of the true strength of America, which is neighbor loving neighbor. Those of us who are on our feet, helping those who aren't on their feet. He's a part of the light that can help shine into corners of darkness, where there may be despair and addiction and loneliness."

-- Motivational phrase work that upon closer analysis reveals nothing of substance, except a penchant for mixed metaphors, East Literature Magnet School, Nashville, Tennessee, Sep. 17, 2002

 

"If you find a neighbor in need, you're responsible for serving that neighbor in need, you're responsible for loving a neighbor just like you'd like to love yourself."

-- Dubya turns inadvertently narcissistic, Davenport, Iowa, Sep. 16, 2002

 

"They're nothing but a bunch of cold-blooded killers. You've just got to understand that about the nature of the enemy. They hate us because we love. They hate, we love freedom, is why they hate us, and we're not going to quit loving freedom."

-- More drivel for the masses, Davenport, Iowa, Sep. 16, 2002

 

"You see, if you have more money in your pocket, you're going to demand a good or a service. And when you demand a good or a service, somebody is likely to produce or to make that good, or produce that service. And when somebody produces the good and service, it means somebody is more likely to find work."

-- Davenport, Iowa, Sep. 16, 2002

 

"I gave a speech to the United Nations talking about Iraq, and making it crystal-clear to the United Nations that Saddam poses an international problem. ...He basically told the United Nations, your deal don't mean anything to me."

-- On a first name basis with his nemesis, and adding some downhome grammar to the mix, Davenport, Iowa, Sep. 16, 2002