ANOTHER SUSPECT REVIEW?

[Guest Thunderbuns]

I read today a review of Daniel Jenkins - Vancouver (formerly Toronto) by a first time reviewer who calls him self manhattanman. He claims to be a fitness instructer, based in NYC and who is married with children.

 

In the review he (the reviewer) states he has always had an desire to participate in public sex - but in a safe location. Oxymoron?

 

So..... obliging Daniel took him to a "safe, high-end public sex establishment in Vancouver". Really?

 

As a Vancouverite who knows the city quite well, I have never heard of such an "establishment". Could this be pure BS, or do I need to be educated by Daniel. If this place does exist, I would be very interested to hear more. Some how I don't think I should hold my breath.

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest in yer face]

I read the review. THere is nothing in there that could be taken as false. Perhaps you dont know everything. I suggest you take care not to smear an escorts rep so easily, I was thinking perhaps you should get a life and stop looking for problems that dont exist.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>I read the review. THere is nothing in there that could be

>taken as false. Perhaps you dont know everything. I suggest

>you take care not to smear an escorts rep so easily, I was

>thinking perhaps you should get a life and stop looking for

>problems that dont exist.

 

How come you are so quick to defend this reviewer? I didn't see you jumping to other reviewers defence when members questioned the authenticity of their bogus reviews!

 

Unless you live in Vancouver - and I doubt that very much - then perhaps it is YOU that "dont know everything"

 

If there was a "SAFE, HIGH END PUBLIC SEX ESTABLISHMENT" operating in Vancouver - trust me - I would know about it.

 

"Get a life", you say. I do have a life honey! - that precisely why I know there ain't no such place.

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest in yer face]

>How come you are so quick to defend this reviewer? I didn't

>see you jumping to other reviewers defence when members

>questioned the authenticity of their bogus reviews!

 

I'm talking about you right now. Ill get to the others in my own good time.

 

 

>Unless you live in Vancouver - and I doubt that very much -

>then perhaps it is YOU that "dont know everything"

 

I never claimed to know everything. What I do know is that accusing an escort of a bogus review based on some stupid observation of your own is not ok. You are encroaching on someones livelyhood out of your own boredom and for your own entertainment/amusement.

 

>If there was a "SAFE, HIGH END PUBLIC SEX ESTABLISHMENT"

>operating in Vancouver - trust me - I would know about it.

>"Get a life", you say. I do have a life honey! - that

>precisely why I know there ain't no such place.

 

 

I don't consider knowing about every sex club in Vancouver having a life. And BTW, dont cell me honey. You don't know me, so don't try to be cute.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>I'm talking about you right now. Ill get to the others in my

>own good time.

 

Oh no !!! We're all trembling in our boots.

 

>I never claimed to know everything. What I do know is that

>accusing an escort of a bogus review based on some stupid

>observation of your own is not ok. You are encroaching on

>someones livelyhood out of your own boredom and for your own

>entertainment/amusement.

 

It is not "some stupid observation". It is a very acurate observation. The only stupid thing was your reply. And I'm not doing it out of "boredom" or for "my own entertainment/amusement". I did it because the review was a bunch of bull shit and lies.

 

>I don't consider knowing about every sex club in Vancouver

>having a life.

 

Well it's better than sitting at home writing bitchy replies about subjects you know nothing about!

 

>And BTW, dont cell me honey. You don't know me, so don't try to be >cute.

 

I was just being polite - honey. Trust me, it isn't even close to what I called you in my mind.

 

Thunderbuns

[taylorky]

utohhh here we go again!!!lighten up dude.questioning the truth of an escorts review does not threaten world peace.okayyyyyyyyy.now play nice or no ice cream!!!!!!!!!

[Guest Kalifornia]

>

>>Unless you live in Vancouver - and I doubt that very much -

>>then perhaps it is YOU that "dont know everything"

>>If there was a "SAFE, HIGH END PUBLIC SEX ESTABLISHMENT"

>>operating in Vancouver - trust me - I would know about it.

>>"Get a life", you say. I do have a life honey! - that

>>precisely why I know there ain't no such place.

>

I think Thundrbuns has a point. He lives in the city and says he knows it well. There is no reason to doubt him. I know my town well too and if there was a high end public sex establishment here I would know as well. I apreciate when guys warn us of potential bogus reviews. And that is all TB was doing, warning us. We need to make up our own mind as to the validity of the review and the warning.

 

In Yer Face I think you might be too uptight about his warning. There have been quite a few others on this site that have also pointed out potential fake reviews and I did not see you attack them.

 

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Will]

In Whose Face?

 

Thanks, Thunderbuns, for the heads-up. Vancouver is one of the places that I would love to visit, particularly as it seems to have beautiful scenery of the fauna as well as flora variety.

 

To your vitriolic opponent with the unfortunate screen-name, I would point out that:

 

1. This is a site for reviewing escorts. Most merit a lot of praise, a few don't;

 

2. If a review is spurious, it not only misleads clients; it also tarnishes the credibility of other escort reviews;

 

3. Tarnished credibility hurts all escorts;

 

4. To indicate that there might be something suspect about a review casts suspicion on the writer of the review, not on the escort in question; and

 

5. When a review includes a description of a well-known place in a specific city, and a resident of that city cannot identify that place, he does us all a favor -- and supports this purpose of this site -- by drawing our attention to the possibility of fraud.

 

In other words, In Yer Face might have his head up his ass.

[BewareofNick]

>I read the review. THere is nothing in there that could be

>taken as false. Perhaps you dont know everything. I suggest

>you take care not to smear an escorts rep so easily, I was

>thinking perhaps you should get a life and stop looking for

>problems that dont exist.

 

I red this when Thunderbuns first posted. Other than his question about the existence of this sex club, I found nothing inherently wrong with the review. It IS possible that the club exists, and Thunderbuns conceded that point, but I don't know enough about Vancouver to say yea or nay. So naturally, I went to the internet

 

Here's what I found:

 

Vancouver has four men-only bathhouses and sex clubs, all of which are open 24 hours a day. The two most popular ones are Fahrenheit 212 (1048 Davie Street; call 877-4765 or visit http://www.F212.com) and Club Vancouver (339 West Pender Street; call 681-5719 or visit http://www.clubvancouver.com).

 

So apparently, there are sex clubs in Vancouver. (TB, take notes!! )

 

However, the "mafia-style" response of in yer face did more to damage the credibility of the escort and the reviewer than Thunderbuns initial concerns. When will you guys learn that it's not what you so much as how you say it? And remember, long time posters automatically get a bit more credit in the bank than someone who just pops in to bash one of them.

[Guest in yer face]

>However, the "mafia-style" response of in yer face did more

>to damage the credibility of the escort and the reviewer

>than Thunderbuns initial concerns. When will you guys learn

>that it's not what you so much as how you say it? And

>remember, long time posters automatically get a bit more

>credit in the bank than someone who just pops in to bash one

>of them.

 

BOW, you are absolutely right. My apology to the escort in question, I only meant to defend him. It just seems to me that there has been a recent spate of questioning reviews of escorts. It started right about the time that the infighting on the board was becoming more heavily monitored. If you really have a problem with it, why not talk to HB directly, given hes the one deciding whats real?

 

So allow me to rephrase myself in a more diginified manner. The escort in question has no bad reviews written. There is no reason to suspect that he would write his own. TB's post was based entirely on speculation that since he is not aware of this sexclub, that the review was fabricated, and therefore this escort is a liar.

 

Fine, his right. However, there is something else at stake. These boys are trying to work. These free flung accusations have an effect on their income. And since these accuations are becoming more frequent, I tried to say something about it. Not in the best way I suppose, but whatever. The fact still remains that the original post was out of line in my eyes. It was written in a catty and self serving manner. Almost like TB was just having so much fun accusing someone else of being deceitful. Anyway, Ill put the Screen Name to rest. Ive realized no that this board is only as good to escorts as it is for that moment.

 

Just for the record, I have made other posts:

http://www.male4malescorts.com/cgi-local/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=2996&forum=DCForumID5

http://www.male4malescorts.com/cgi-local/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=242&forum=DCForumID2

[Guest Thunderbuns]

Well - why didn't he say so!

 

>Vancouver has four men-only bathhouses and sex clubs, all

>of which are open 24 hours a day. The two most popular ones

>are Fahrenheit 212 (1048 Davie Street; call 877-4765 or

>visit http://www.F212.com) and Club Vancouver (339 West

>Pender Street; call 681-5719 or visit

>http://www.clubvancouver.com).

>

>So apparently, there are sex clubs in Vancouver. (TB, take

>notes!! )

 

Well - this is a horse of a slightly different colour. Why didn't he call a spade a spade. If he was referring to a "steam bath", that's what he should have called it. And that's all they are - just plain old grotty steamies.

 

Yes we have several. High end? I think not. Sleaze with ease might be a better description. To call them "High end public sex establishments" is like comparing the Gaiety to the Met. Both may have men on stage - but they are hardly similar.

 

Perhaps the reviewer is the kind of guy who likes to paint every experience with a brush dipped in 24 karat gold. It would have been more appropriate for him to say "I got fucked at the tubs" :-)

 

Thunderbuns

[+ Lucky]

RE: Well - why didn't he ?

 

Mr. Buns, you do seem a little cantankerous today. :-)

Now, what high-end gay establishments would you recommend in Vancouver?

[+ Lucky]

RE: Another suspect post?

 

The above post by Will seems to me to be fake. I have never known him to post anything rude, and find it hard to believe he would start now.

"Head up his ass" indeed! That is not Will speaking!

[Guest bottomboykk]

RE: Another suspect post?

 

>That is not Will speaking!

 

I sure hope it is, cuz it's a brilliant response.

[Will]

RE: Another suspect post?

 

>"Head up his ass" indeed! That is not Will speaking!

 

Oh, yes it is indeed Will, my dear Lucky! But what I said isn't rude. Notice that the verb "might" casts the sentence into the conditional mood. It doesn't strike me as rude to observe the possibility of head-up-his-assness. On the other hand, if I had said that In Yer Face is staring at the inner walls of his own bowels (which would require that his head be up his ass), well, that might have been a little rude. As it stands, I'm only suggesting that perhaps he had something in his eye when he read Thunderbun's post. Something brown, slimy, and smelly.

[chrismac]

RE: Another suspect post?

 

>Something brown, slimy, and smelly.

 

Ewwwww - shouldn't have read that one while din was just set upon the table!

x(

[+ Lucky]

RE: Another suspect post?

 

Well, it gave me a pretty good laugh!:7

[Guest JustStarting]

RE: Well - why didn't he say so!

 

And Ethan gets banned for crankiness! Go figure

[Guest Thunderbuns]

RE: Well - why didn't he say so!

 

>And Ethan gets banned for crankiness! Go figure

 

Ethan didn't get banned for crankiness and if you don't understand that then you haven't been paying much attention lately. You should always pay attention in case Hooboy decides to give a test!

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest Thunderbuns]

RE: Well - why didn't he ?

 

>Mr. Buns, you do seem a little cantankerous today. :-)

>Now, what high-end gay establishments would you recommend in

>Vancouver?

 

Unfortunately we have no such high-end gay public establishments - we are not THAT sophisticated!

 

We do have, however, a gay massage parlor. They always have 4 or 5 guys on duty and you go in and pick your poison, so to speak. There are three private rooms, very nicely decorated in different themes and it is very clean, discreat and well run (by gays). The management stresses that it is massage only - in order to comply with the law. But after you get into a room with the attendant, and the door is locked, pretty much anything goes.

 

Price is $50 for 1/2 hr, $70 for full hour and $100 for what they call their VIP session which last 90 minutes. The guys expect a tip. I usually $50.

 

Try it next time your in Vancouver - it is a unique experience.

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest seraph250]

RE: Another suspect post?

 

>Well, it gave me a pretty good laugh!

 

Me too. I always get a laugh out of the people who get up on their high horse and complain about all the hostility here, then turn around and make hostile remarks to someone else.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Because I have a smidgeon of first hand knowledge about Daniel, I guess it is time I put two cents orth into the discussion.

 

The review may or may not be bogus -- I have no way of knowing. I did read the review the day it appeared but I have not reread the review for the purpose of responding to this thread so I'm going on my first impression only -- nothing seemed suspicious to me.

 

I viewed the description of the ' high end public sex establishment' as a probable embellished reference to F212 or another of the local bath houses. It may not be everyone's idea of high end but then we all come from different trailer parks. :-)

 

I do have some knowledge of Daniel though -- not much but some. I have exchanged several emails and one telephone conversation with him. I found him to be courteous, professional, and very flexible in his willingness to arrange for a hook-up. And nice enough to call after we failed to finalize arrangements due to my being out of touch on that day. I found his voice (timbre and tone) appealing too. Also based on his web site and related links :o I'm confident Daniel is not the bashful type -- very up for WHATEVER I suspect. }>

 

Is the reviewer a flake or someone who embellishes an experience to reflect his fantasy, or someone from the other side of town? I don't know. Is Daniel up to his reviews? I suspect so -- check his web site/links. Unless something causes my opinion to change, I think I have enough direct knowledge to induce me to give him a call next time I'm in his neighborhood. :o

 

Just my impression based limited experience and research. As deeg puts it... your mileage may vary.

 

:-)