Isn't it a bit dicey?

[Rod Hagen]

The joy I receive from fucking married men comes partly from its “forbidden FRUIT” quality as I stated, but it also makes me happy to help men deal with becoming gay. I never back down on the BI or straight-but-curious issue, even with new clients, but I do enjoy trying to help them understand that although they are gay and married, that simply means they have a couple different compartments to their lives. I can fuck him passionately, and that’s good. He can love his wife, and that’s good (Let me repeat that, being gay does not mean that he can’t love his wife, even enjoy cuddling with her and sharing a life together, they aren’t mutually exclusive behaviors). He can love his kids, and most importantly there is absolutely no reason for him to look back at their lives together with any type of regret. I think that’s the temptation, sometimes, and what keeps gay men from actually admitting to themselves or anybody else that they are gay, because if that’s the case doesn’t that sort of nullify what they had for the last 30 years with their family? No, of course it doesn’t. The big question is once he realizes he’s gay, and that that’s actually a really good thing, then what? At first the trysts with the escort are quite cathartic, but after awhile it becomes more hormonal. But the thing I don’t necessarily think that’s objectively bad either. Regulation can put all sorts of traditional value on Marriage vows, and indeed if it wasn’t for marriage vows lots of us wouldn’t even be here, but the real men, the real QUALITY men, are those who perhaps step out of their relationship not to just to get fucked by every escort out there, like trying every flavor at Haagen Daaz ignoring the paunch it’s giving you, but to develop strong ties with just a few escorts who can help them really come to terms with what being gay, and married, is going to entail. As an aside, I think that perhaps this is why the father-son relationship I've spoken of can develop between the client and escort. It's like having a second family, but one where the family members screw.

 

Gay is sex. Gay is not pride floats, opera, killer abs, circuit parties, Edmund White Books, eye-shadow, My Fair Lady or tight jeans. We’ve created all these dressings, partly in the beginning as ways to identify one another (to share sex with) back “in the old days” and some of it seems to just be there around it, we generally tend to like all those things, who knows why. But actually BEING GAY isn’t about the dressing, it’s about the meat: fucking-who you’re fucking, who you’d like to be fucking, who you think about fucking, and how, as a fucker, you identify yourself. So I fuck the married man, he creams, he goes home and STILL LOVES HIS FAMILY and WIFE, he just has that EXTRA thing and he’ll be freer to revel in it accepting that he’s gay and not some bullshit classification like BI or Straight-but-cuious (or christ forgive them: OMNISEXUAL or PANSEXUAL) perhaps.

 

Obviously, vows and promises are important, but I’m sorry maybe I read too much AYN RAND when I was in highschool, but I believe that ultimately the SELF is most important. If a gay man dies having never been fucked to the hilt with his legs on the shoulders of some beautiful man simply because he didn’t want to step out of the rules of some man made convention grounded in some obsolete religious texts-a convention he entered into out of undue cultural pressure-he only lived half a life.

 

The big question is, once he’s scratched the itch, and he’s found that right gay sexual partner, does he tell the family? I believe the SELF is most important, however I also think that respect between respectable individuals is also important, and so yes I think if a man loves and respects his family he does owe it to them at some point to be clean and honest. It may hurt their feelings, it may jeporadize the marriage, but at that point he should respect them enough to risk that.

 

Easy for me to say, I’M NOT MARRIED!

 

Happy 4th of July, I’m off to go surfing.

[Rod Hagen]

>I can't imagine the size of the balls a married man must

>have to bring an escort into THEIR house.

 

At least some of the clients who invite escorts into their homes do so, not as a "Fuck YOU" to their wives, but because they feel extremely close to the escort, maybe even fatherly as I've discussed before, and so they wish to share a big part of themselves with the boy: their home and the scent of their family. Why else would clients pull out photos of their kids at the FIRST meeting with an escort? This happens all the time, and I find it charming.

 

This doesn't excuse inviting another man into the bed one shares with a wife, if doing so requires an excuse, but it does explain it beyond a simple label of being shameless.

 

Of course I would have to go on and explain how I get a big kick out of fucking married men, and that (perverse, immoral, natural?) rush accompanies me into their home whenever I've been invited into. And it manifests itself by my becoming revved up when I think about how, after eating my ass on the center island in the kitchen, he'll always look at that table and fight back a lecherous and warmly nostalgic grin. :-) That fact turns me on and makes me very happy, happy for me because I've given him a secret to be happy about. It may be wrong, but then again I don't have much respect for the institution of Marriage (breaking up on average, not being religious myself etc).

 

And now you should read my next post, it's right below this one and is less callous. ---->

[bluenix]

The Unanswered Question for Me Is...

 

Let's say you have a committed relationship with a man who decides to indulge his sexual curiosity about women. He finds that he likes sex with women and over time develops a meaningful, long-term relationship with one woman in particular. He still loves you, and, in fact, were he forced to choose between the woman and you, he would choose you.

 

Because he wouldn't want to hurt you, he does not tell you about the emotional and sexual connection he has formed with this woman.

 

My question is, which would you chose for yourself: to know the truth, along with heartache, or to remain happy in your misconception about the way things are?

[Barry]

RE: Isn't it a bit confusing?

 

>>This is fascinating how Regulation makes his infatuation

>>with Rick Munroe so obvious. He quotes or refers to Rick in

>>nearly every post, and hangs onto and catalogues and

>>memorizes every word Mr. Munroe posts. Interesting reading!

>

>I don't deserve any credit for knowing something about

>Rick's posts. The fact is, there are so many of them it

>isn't easy to avoid them.

 

It's actually quite easy Reg. Just look at the second column on any give row and if it reads "Rick Munroe" don't read that post. Hope that helps. :-)

 

Happy 4th Barry

[phage]

RE: The Unanswered Question for Me Is...

 

Good question. I would want to know, and I would most likely end the relationship. Am I the only one around here with this misogynistic streak of pride (or insecurity) that makes it impossible for me to try to compete with a woman?

[Donnie]

RE: Isn't it a bit confusing?

 

Sorry Barry but Reggie will never ignore Munroe. His love is too strong!

 

Reg and Rick sittin' in a tree

K-I-S-S-I-N-G

First comes love

Then comes marriage

Then comes Reggie in a baby carriage

[taylorky]

in my humble little ol' country boy opinion,comittment is importent.it has nothing to do with gender, sexual orientation, morals,or even politics;it has only only to do with the proffessed love of your partner.if you can't make a committment to someone don't.if you can't keep a committment tell the person.but show the person you say you love some respect and some honesty.i'll be 20 next month and after being with the same guy for over 5 years (yes i was 14) i am at the point that i can't be faithful to him anymore ;but i still love and respect him, so instead of lying and sneaking, i'll tell him how i feel.maybe it will elvolve into an open relation-ship maybe it will end, i don't know. but i do know love and respect and committment is based on honesty.at least it is for me. ummmmmmmmm sorry for being such a downer,and this is not meant as an attack on anyone.just how i feel

[+ glutes]

It is dicey to bring a rent-boy home, even to your hotel room while traveling. Missing wallets, money and watches all go through my mind. I know gent in Pattaya Thailand who will bring boys back, but uses a apartment way out of town so he won't have any unexpected 'drop-ins'. I also stayed at a guest house where a rent boy showed up at 3am screaming out on the street looking for a past client, and in a very altered state.

I like to keep work and personal separate!

[Rick Munroe]

RE: Isn't it a bit confusing?

 

>Rick, I don't know you but wish I did. I love your

>attitude, your comments and the happy tone you bring to this

>site. When I want to feel good, I look for that pretty butt

>Icon to..., er, read (sigh)

 

Thank you, Flower. Like I said to you in another thread, you just made me feel good, too (how did you ever get your tongue to reach through your computer, out of mine, and into my hole??)

 

>Being a married man, albeit one who has just come out,

 

GOOD FOR YOU! I always love hearing that. If & when you ever want to post about it, I'm sure most of us would be interested to hear your story. If it encourages just one other person to come out too, wouldn't that have been worth it?

 

>I have a married AND gay cock for you to rock -- where you at babe?

 

I'm in NYC and you just said the magic words to this bitch-in-heat. }>