Scam of the Day

[Mark Gordon]

Not terribly well thought out, this one:

Hello Guy,

 

I am Jenypher from England...I am female.

I really love Gay Escort so much, And i wish to come to Toronto by 25th January,2010 for my Holiday trip.

And i wish to you to Escort me during my Holiday in Toronto.

All i need from you is to get me fucked.

Please let me know if you are interested, Then tell me about your rate per hour.

 

Looking to hear from you.

 

Jeny

 

I'm not sure which aspect is the more unbelievable:

1.That a straight woman wants to hire a gay man to fuck her.

2.That anyone would dream of holidaying in Toronto in January.

[MsGuy]

#2...Toronto in January.

[+ FreshFluff]

S/he sounds like a time waster, at worst. What would the scam be? She can hardly ask you for a credit card number.

[Mark Gordon]

The Plot Thickens

 

S/he sounds like a time waster, at worst. What would the scam be? She can hardly ask you for a credit card number.

 

I have encountered many a scam and rest assured I know exactly where this one is going. Sometimes I like to play along and have a bit of fun with them. I am presently in correspondence with 'Jeny' and will publish the same for your examination and amusement anon.

[justaguy]

Please do! This is a hoot.

[+ FreshFluff]

Hmmm, I'm curious.

[Lookin]

S/he sounds like a time waster, at worst. What would the scam be? She can hardly ask you for a credit card number.

 

Bet it turns out to be the cashier's check scam.

 

I hadn't realized how long it takes the banks to sort out a fraudulent "cashier's check".

 

"The scam works because the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. (FDIC) requires banks to make money from cashier's, certified, or teller's checks available in one to five days. Consequently, funds from checks that might not be good are often released into payees' accounts long before the checks have been honored by their issuing banks. High quality forgeries can be bounced back and forth between banks for weeks before anyone catches on to their being worthless, by which time victims have long since wired the "overpayments" to the con artists who have just taken them for a ride."

 

You'd think they'd take some responsibility for ensuring a cashier's check actually has funds behind it within a day or two. Isn't that why we pay fees for cashier's checks? Can't two banks communicate securely and reliably within one business day? I thought that's why Al Gore invented the internet.

 

Until the banks step up, it sounds like a cashier's check confers no more security than any other check. I don't think I'll ever again look at one as a sure thing.

 

Now I do hope I'm wrong, and that Jenypher is really the lovely, charming and ever-horny spoiled daughter of a British software tycoon with offices in Toronto, and that Mark is the guy she has pined for ever since she turned eighteen last Spring. I shall watch this thread with great interest until I find out for sure.

[KMEM]

Lookin-

 

So far as I can tell there is no sure fire method of collecting payment. Cash can be counterfeit, gold can be fake, checks can be forged, etc. The only method that works for me is to know the remitter. Sometimes this is easier than others.

 

I have had a variety of scams tried out on me. One of the more interesting was a bank check drawn on a Canadian bank. I used the internet to research the bank itself and the company doing the remitting. Both were legit, at least they existed. Then, because I am always suspicious of "free money" I took the check to my banker who turned it over to the bank's fraud department. As you suggest, there is no set, guaranteed, never mind speedy, method to verify a check like this. Basically you present it and when it hits the so called issuing bank and is rejected for non-account or the like, then you know the whole thing was fraudulent. What my bank's fraud department did was call someone they personally knew in Ottawa that worked for the issuing bank and was able to have all but certain knowledge it was a scam right then and there. The good old boy network might work but it doesn't make me feel any better about how banks operate.

 

BTW- Cashier's checks, bank checks, wire transfers, etc. can all be held up by the issuing bank. Of course, they do so at their peril and, if pressed, will have to answer to their state and the feds but, in the mean time, your "certified funds" aren't.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[KMEM]

MG-

I realize any currency made with modern techniques has a low rate of couterfeiting and that certainly includes Canadian currency. The US finally got most of their act together a short time ago but in today's economic climate, who wants US dollars?

 

I enjoyed the written report of your email exchanges.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[MsGuy]

"...in today's economic climate, who wants US dollars?"

 

No problem, KMEM. Shoebox any cash (US$) that's been accumulating in your desk drawers, mail it to me and I'll recycle it for you in an enviromentally sensitive way. Of course I'll need you to include a small fee for my time, etc., preferably paid in yuan or yen.

[+ FreshFluff]

Don't most escorts talk to the client on the phone at least once before the session? That would "out" his/her lie about her gender (if that's the case), which would make most escorts wonder about the validity of her payment as well.

[KMEM]

"...in today's economic climate, who wants US dollars?"

 

No problem, KMEM. Shoebox any cash (US$) that's been accumulating in your desk drawers, mail it to me and I'll recycle it for you in an enviromentally sensitive way. Of course I'll need you to include a small fee for my time, etc., preferably paid in yuan or yen.

 

Also, NP, MsGuy. Just PM me your bank account details to include your SS#, account #, your passwords, etc. If your bank takes international currency, just include those details also. Would 20% in other currency be acceptable?

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Mark Gordon]

Most Escorts

 

Don't most escorts talk to the client on the phone at least once before the session? That would "out" his/her lie about her gender (if that's the case), which would make most escorts wonder about the validity of her payment as well.

 

Most experienced escorts would be suspicious of this proposal on multiple counts: this client purports to be a female who wants to hire a gay male escort to fuck her, she claims to live in England yet has very poor English (and no concept of irony), she has readily agreed to a ridiculously high fee, she claims to be holidaying in Toronto in January, she claims that her company wants to pre-pay her hired escort in advance, and finally she does not really come across as female at all. Yes, most experienced escorts, including myself, insist that all appointments be confirmed by phone, and she would be unlikely to pass that hurdle. However, no doubt some inexperienced escorts would fall for the story and others like it which I receive regularly. As I've provided bogus banking details, this exchange is unlikely to proceed much farther. I have no doubt that where 'Jeny' intended this to go was that she would send me a certified cheque in an amount greater than my fee, and request that the excess be returned to her by cheque once the funds had 'cleared,' leaving me that much poorer once her own fraudulent cheque bounced. As If.