Is it normal for a CLIENT to stand you up??

[Guest zipperzone]

Ok..

 

I have a few regulars who happened to be in town this same day on business who also wanted to book me but I had already made plans with Wayout for the evening and missed out on those oppurtunities.

 

Everyones schedule was thrown off. I spent the entire day buying new underwear, QUOTE]

 

1: As a self confessed "newbie" I find it hard to believe that you had "a few regulars who happened to be in town this same day". I think you made this up as a way of justifying your wrath.

 

2: If you can spend the day buying underwear, we should introduce you to an ex-member by the name of RockHard. You two would get along like a house on fire.

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

In reference to Wayout..

 

This is completely true..initially I DID suggest he give me a rate for the evening as this is the first time Ive been contacted per this website and my rate on here is not listed. Every clients situation is different and I prefer to be flexible rather than just throw out a number.

 

This is the rate I believed I was getting for an EVENING rather than overnight..after realizing he wanted an overnight(which I have to agree as he has confessed the rate he offered was quite low and he knows this for an overnight) I suggested he let me know what he sought reasonable.

 

As far as my other clients well..I can give contact numbers or email to wayout to verify they were looking to book for Tuesday. They were looking to have me THAT NIGHT our appointement(wayout and I) was set at 7PM they contacted me again earlier in the day..so obviously after turning them down they would look elsewhere and another client simply left for the day thinking I wouldnt be able to meet him.

 

I find it utterly disgusting and disapointing that this is all being justified when Wayout could have simply cancelled or when I gave the new rate declined..or better yet TELL ME WHAT HE SOUGHT REASONABLE FOR MY MISTAKE..rather than as he put it "Go about his day without contacting me to justify things"

[alanalt]

Hottie,

 

I agree that for a client to cancel without notice is irresponsible at best. Having been on the other end of the stick (so to speak) when an escort left me waiting and waiting without bothering to tell me why (even after the fact), I do feel your frustration.

 

But I can also see things from the client's side. And from that view, I have to say that if after setting up an overnight appointment with an escort, to have that escort come back to me at a later date and tell me he had charged me his evening rate instead of his overnight rate, and then put the onus on me to establish a new rate for the session, I too would have felt entirely uncomfortable about the whole situation. The difference is that I probably would have given the experience the mercy-killing it deserved and cancelled the appointment then and there.

 

Occasional last-minute cancellations and being 'stood up' without notice is part of the 'game' for both escorts and clients. If you are going to escort, you have to understand/accept that kind of thing happens and be able to move on. And if you can't do that, then maybe you need to accept that escorting is not for you...

 

Alan

 

PS - Also, if you have 'several clients' competing for time-slots with you, then that's even more reason for you to put this episode behind you...

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

Guys..I did my best to work with wayout and he knows this. Period.

 

I would have been fine with any rate he would have given me for an overnight which is why I tried my hardest for him to set the limit..as I said earlier the rate he offered for an overnight was quite low (He admitted this earlier) which is why I had it in my head we were booked for an evening. As an up and new comer I am slowly learning to set the limits..I guess trying to be "fair" with everyones situation is impossible i.e I have one client who likes to have me at his house for the weekend for 2500$ and another client who is strapped at times financially and has me for an hour for 100$ From now on Im setting limits.

[alanalt]

As far as my other clients well..I can give contact numbers or email to wayout to verify they were looking to book for Tuesday. They were looking to have me THAT NIGHT our appointement

 

I'm sorry, but I have to clarify this. You're willing to hand over the personal information of (e-mails and contact numbers) of your other clients???? Do they know you're willing to do this????

 

Alan

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

Of course not without their permission..there is nothing I can stand more is to be called a Liar

[+ purplekow]

I'm sorry, but I have to clarify this. You're willing to hand over the personal information of (e-mails and contact numbers) of your other clients???? Do they know you're willing to do this????

 

Alan

I assumed that this was not a real offer to share client data, rather an attempt to state that he could prove his contention if need be. So you are correct, a clarification is probably warranted.

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

Purplecow..thank you for putting the words in my mouth haha..that is exactly what I was trying to get across..I wasnt offering their Data god of course not and especially without permission..It was to warrant validation if need be

[alanalt]

I would have been fine with any rate he would have given me for an overnight which is why I tried my hardest for him to set the limit

 

If that's true, then why did you go back to the client with the question of mis-communicating your evening rate as your overnight rate in the first place? Why not just tell him at the time of the appointment that you made the mistake and will honour that rate as a one-time deal instead of putting the onus on the client to reset a new rate as you did?

 

I think one of the most valuable pieces of advice/experience on this thread came from Rian:

I cant think of anytime where telling a client a different price has turned out well. The results are all the same.

 

Alan

 

PS - I'm sorry if I seem to be 'picking on you' tonight but to this reader who's trying to look at this objectively - the more you expand on your points, the less convincing they become...

[+ purplekow]

Not that hottie needs my defense, but I do support our troops, no matter what preceded it, the client took the cowardly way out and just left this guy hanging. Yes hottie could have done better and probably will learn a valuable lesson from this, but the client bears the burden of being a no show without calling. There is no defense for that. Semper fi

[Romann]

You have a good point we well.

 

Agreed.

 

No one but the client and the escort know the fully transpired but I think everyone's input is valuable and we can all walk away learning something from this discussed experience.

 

I don't know what it the rate the client suggested but it was too low from the national average? We don't have the full story but I gave my opinion with what I know. Maybe I was unfair. However, the client did punish the escort due to his anger. It is a difficult issue.

[Romann]

Good point.

 

Agreed.

 

Cancelations do and will happen no matter how good the escort and client are. Life intervenes, work schedules change and things happen for whatever reason. That said, far more appointments will go through compared to cancelations and most of the time, cancelations will be rescheduled assuming communication is open between both parties.

 

Given the lack of successful communication going on between escort and (prospective) client here, I doubt I'm the only one thinking it may well have been better that the appointment did not come off. The best that can be said is that, hopefully, both escort and client will have learned from this experience and won't make those mistakes again...

 

As a client, I have occasionally cancelled but I've always tried to give as much notice as possible - a couple of times when I came down with a migraine (and once with a cold) the notice was fairly short (i.e. several hours beforehand). I've also had escorts cancel for much the same reason (and with much the same notice). I have never simply not shown up for an appointment. Twice, I've had escorts not show up for an appointment without notice while I was on the road visiting their home towns. Needless to say, they never got a chance at my business again.

 

So yes, shit happens and it flows both ways...

 

Alan

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

500$ for an overnight..I may be new and yes I am known to be flexible and work around clients financial situation..but for OVERNIGHT?

[Romann]

Lesson learned.

 

No one was there to see what transpired but the two of you. All I can say on this response of yours is going forward, determine what you feel your time and skills are valued at and hold strong to that. Mistakes were made on both sides but both sides can also walk away from this, learn and leave it in the past.

 

Guys..I did my best to work with wayout and he knows this. Period.

 

I would have been fine with any rate he would have given me for an overnight which is why I tried my hardest for him to set the limit..as I said earlier the rate he offered for an overnight was quite low (He admitted this earlier) which is why I had it in my head we were booked for an evening. As an up and new comer I am slowly learning to set the limits..I guess trying to be "fair" with everyones situation is impossible i.e I have one client who likes to have me at his house for the weekend for 2500$ and another client who is strapped at times financially and has me for an hour for 100$ From now on Im setting limits.

[Guest greatness]

I'm sorry

 

You sound so cute. Anyways, ask an experienced escort how to write a business email and etc. Even in other businesses the same thing happen when you don't specify terms and expectations clearly. It's not that people are mean or bad but when the terms and expectations are not clear it would cause a trouble later. Clearly there were unclear communications between you and the client. However, the client did something not nice to the escort in the end. He could have addressed his concerns and cancelled it. I admire the client's effort to correct his mistake. As long as we have that mind set we have something to work on.

 

I think you have learned your first lesson that in business you have to be clear in your communication. If you miscommunicate then you will lose a lot of money and time. You have to study.

 

I think most escorts I've met are extremely smart. They can read people well and they can carry a great conversation. One of the escorts is so cute I just love when he opens his mouth, I don't pay attention to the content of the dialogue but his voice is so soft..Wait I am getting side tracked here. What was the point that I wanted to make..I simply forgot..I will get back to you later.

 

 

 

500$ for an overnight..I may be new and yes I am known to be flexible and work around clients financial situation..but for OVERNIGHT?

[Romann]

Damn boy! If that's the case, I'll happily hire you!

 

500$ for an overnight..I may be new and yes I am known to be flexible and work around clients financial situation..but for OVERNIGHT?

[jgoo]

Just a thought

 

Brand new to this site. Came up on this and thought I'd try posting. Wondering if one possibility of what could have happened was that this escort Hottiwithabody agreed a week in advance to a low rate for an overnight (something better than nothing), knowing well it was for overnight, but a couple days before the agreed meeting he got another interested client and he was playing the two off each other to see the most that he could get.

[Guest greatness]

well

 

Anything is possible. We can't regulate how an escort conduct his business and there is no way to find it out. But your point is pure speculation. It is not fair.

 

 

Brand new to this site. Came up on this and thought I'd try posting. Wondering if one possibility of what could have happened was that this escort Hottiwithabody agreed a week in advance to a low rate for an overnight (something better than nothing), knowing well it was for overnight, but a couple days before the agreed meeting he got another interested client and he was playing the two off each other to see the most that he could get.

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

awesome so not only did I get stood up but it is now apparent I was taken advantage of by offering Wayout the oppurtunity to name his price..great

[Guest greatness]

well

 

It's just a speculation. Nobody is saying that you did.

 

awesome so not only did I get stood up but it is now apparent I was taken advantage of by offering Wayout the oppurtunity to name his price..great

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

At any rate I am offended and quite hurt that Wayout has yet to simply email me(PERSONALLY) with an apology yet hes had quite a bit of time to post on my post..maybe I just take things too personally? I need to learn how to be more coldhearted..seems to get you far these days

[+ purplekow]

Hottie, You are like a terrier with a bone on this. The guy did you wrong. He admitted it publicly. He should have done it privately as well but at this point, for your sanity, let it go. By the way, do you have a link to an ad or web page. You could have had it out to everyone would read this. Turn lemons into lemonade.

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

im sorry purplecow I dont have my own website..Im learning I should:)

[jgoo]

Seems odd

 

Read the posts and does anyone else find the following about Hottiewithabody curious?

1. He has at least two regular out of town visiting clients, a client who hires him for weekends and another one who “is strapped at times financially” that he gives discounts to…..all in 1 month in the biz but no site where he advertises or has his own site.

2. Willing to give information on his clients (even with their permission it’s creepy to me that someone would ask).

3. Failed to initially mention his “confusion” about length of meeting and upping agreed rate, both important points.

4. Appears to have flexible rates but seems to think a specific rate must be for an evening and not an overnight.

5. Wants clients to make offer for services but then complains about the amount too low.

6. Uses being in the military (who knows if true) to make him seem above reproach.

7. He says “I would have been fine with any rate he would have given me for an overnight” but then didn’t honor the initial offer (he admits it was his mistake) and complains about the rate he says the client thought he would get.

8. Disregards the client’s point where he offered to split the difference between the two rates.

9. Seems to overstate things…like spending the entire day buying underwear and an outfit for their meeting. Come on, not even my bf could spend that much time buying underwear and an outfit.

 

The client was wrong, he admitted it and apologized. The escort made mistakes, admitted it but just seems not to be able to let go. I think the above gives some indication that perhaps this escort should re-evaluate the way he does business and how he deal with clients.

[Guest Hottiewithabody]

whats even more interesting is "Jgoo" is starting to sound alot like Wayout..funny for someone "new" to the site to pinpoint his attention on my post only...

 

This discussion is quite frankly between my client and I..Wayout chose not to contact me therefore Initially I asked on here if It was normal to be stood up by a client..witn no expectation from hearing from wayout considering It is very well knwon that hes met many escorts(he also admits to this) and I would think he would have defiently responded to my emails by the time I originally made this post at least with an explanation or cancellation..

 

Im not asking for any validation..no one knows the entire story other than myself and wayout

 

My reputation goes beyond a few hundred dollars for the night and If I had "played" him and was knowingly wrong by all means I wouldnt have posted all my business and asked for advice being this is the same website wayout contacted me off of therefore I would have had to render his point of view and made to be a fool if I was trying to do him any wrongdoing. As Purplecow has put it best "move on"

 

Ill take this as a lesson learned..I can be the bigger man and say I AM at fault for not sticking with the original rate(regardless if I just thought it was for an evening) Im human..shit happens..and I got nothing out of it except alot of great advise for future clients