Reasonable Tip Amount

[jeepman]

Tipping

 

To each his own. If a client feels its appropriate to tip, then fine. If not, then fine. Personally, if I hit it off with an escort, if he lives up to my expectations and if he shows me a good time, I generally will give him a tip but don't use a standard formula to determine the amount. And quite frankly, I could care less whether he claims that tip as part of his income or not. That's his business, not mine.

[Guest zipperzone]

There are many in the service ind. be it doormen, wait staff etc that do not claim their tips or only the bare minimum what the government requires. So escorts aren't the only ones who do this. I can't say I blame those in the service ind. for not claiming all their tips and keeping the money for themselves since most of the jobs barely clear 25k a year. Now before someone says well maybe that waiter should get a better paying job let me ask you are you willing to never go out for a meal or how about those that take a cab to airport? Are you willing to take the bus or drive yourself and pay for parking?

 

Hugs,

Greg

 

Greg: I'm not against tipping. I'm just against OVER tipping.

 

Let me give you an example of a situation that has bugged me for years.

 

Years ago, the acceptable or normal tip for a waiter was 10% of the bill. Then it became 15%. That's a 50% increase. Nobody gave me a 50% increase in my pay envelope.

 

Not only do waiters get 15% these days, in many instances they are expecting 17 or 20%

 

Everyone deserves a decent raise - but 50% seems a little on the generous side to me. And as well, the price of restaurant meals keep going up. So if a steak that sold for $20 last year is now listed at $23 today..... the waiter IS getting more.

 

Something else that bugs me. Say a friend and I go out for dinner. My friend is not overly hungry and orders a pasta dish for $15. I, on the other hand am ravenous and decide I'll have the rack of lamb at $30. In each case the waiter brings just one plate each to the table. Is it logical that he gets twice the tip for one of the meals for exactly the same effort?

 

I think restaurants should pay their waiters a fair wage and if they raise the price of their menu items to pay for this, that's OK by me. It is a lousy system whereby the waiter earns minimum wage and counts on the generosity of strangers to supplement his income.

 

OK..... Rant over

[seaboy4hire]

Zip I'm not good at math but how is going from 10% to 15% a 50% or so hike? Now as for tippping a waiter I usualyy follow the 15% & have for a number of yrs. Now if I required some extra info on what farm my slab of beef came from or info on a nice wine pairing for each course of the meal I'd prob tip a little more since I have no knowledge of wine or the info on the beef & was relying on the servers knowledge. Hmmm not sure if that made sense but um yeah

 

Hugs,

Greg

[KMEM]

Greg-

 

Regardless of the math? a lot of folks would appreciate it if there were to be a reform of the way wait staff is paid. This isn't as big an issue as health care reform but a close second? Good folks as workers are always hard to find and should be appreciated by management and the public; there are always ways to make that appreciation obvious, aren't there?

 

Zip-

 

I have always wondered the same thing about taxes. If property taxes go up and the revenue generated thereof is at once greater, why can not the local government live within those (increased) means?

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[BewareofNick]

This has been discussed a lot before and is a heated topic. My take is that any tip at all is very kind; the prevailing rate in most cities is already a lot of money. 15% sounds generous unless the session has gone long or you've used four towels.

 

I'm very pleased if a client leaves an extra 20. The beauty of charging 250 is that it sort of builds in a $10 tip as many guys pay with 20s.

 

A few kind words or just a hot session may count as much as a tip, too. (All that being said, I'm not at all opposed to cash and cashlike instruments .)

 

Kevin Slater

 

That actually works for the $150 crowd too. I'll keep an extra ten in my wallet just in case. If the guy did a good job, I'll just act like all I could get at the ATM was 20's. If not, the $10 comes out..lol

[KMEM]

I would observe what a cheapskate you are, but I will refrain.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[SFViking]

Tip amount

 

Not entirely new at this but wondering what the going rate is for a tip for a good experience based on some posts I have read in the past month. I've been doing 15 %.

 

My actions are probably not reasonable (or rational), but I take the difference between an escort's in rate and out rate into consideration. I'm likely to tip slightly over the out rate for an in call and 10-20% over the out rate for an out call. My thinking is that the escort is expecting to see the amount of an out call. (I know - In Call Rate + Cab = Out Call Rate. However, I think there's a certain mark up in out calls. Most out calls are $50+ here in SF. It doesn't cost that much to get from most reasonable locations to my place.)

 

Before Christmas last year I tipped 45% of an in call rate for a traveling escort who doesn't come here often enough, in my opinion. Xmas gift? Bribe to come back more often? I'm not sure what I was thinking.

 

I tipped 20% to the last escort I saw, after this thread began, despite the fact that his out rate was 25% above his in rate. So this thread has influenced my behavior downwards. (Escorts will not be pleased, I'm sure.)

 

I haven't had an experience where the escort delivered less than promised in the last decade. The chemistry may not have been as good with some as with others, but that's my issue, not his. I'm not sure what I'd tip in a situation of less-than-promised service.

 

Viking

[Guest zipperzone]

I would observe what a cheapskate you are, but I will refrain.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

 

As you make no referance to the original post it is impossible to understand who you are referring to.

[Guest zipperzone]

Zip I'm not good at math but how is going from 10% to 15% a 50% or so hike? Now as for tippping a waiter I usualyy follow the 15% & have for a number of yrs. Now if I required some extra info on what farm my slab of beef came from or info on a nice wine pairing for each course of the meal I'd prob tip a little more since I have no knowledge of wine or the info on the beef & was relying on the servers knowledge. Hmmm not sure if that made sense but um yeah

 

Hugs,

Greg

 

Greg the math is really simple. Let's say you were earning $10 an hour at you regular job. The boss told you that as of today you were going to get a raise to $15 an hour.

 

That is 1/2 as much again as you were earning yesterday = a 50% raise. The same math works regarding the tip situation.

[KMEM]

As you make no referance to the original post it is impossible to understand who you are referring to.

 

I was referring to someone who gets his jollies by pretending the ATM is out of $20's.

 

Best regards,

KMEM

[Mark Gordon]

Incall vs. Outcall Rates

 

My actions are probably not reasonable (or rational), but I take the difference between an escort's in rate and out rate into consideration. I'm likely to tip slightly over the out rate for an in call and 10-20% over the out rate for an out call. My thinking is that the escort is expecting to see the amount of an out call. (I know - In Call Rate + Cab = Out Call Rate. However, I think there's a certain mark up in out calls. Most out calls are $50+ here in SF. It doesn't cost that much to get from most reasonable locations to my place.)

 

I think the difference between incall/outcall rates have more to do with the extra time it takes for the escort to do the job than actual travelling expenses. There is always a premium to have a service provider come to you. Taking travelling time into account, a 1hr outcall will generally take 2-2.5hrs of my time. I only ask an extra $20 for this time as this is what my closest competitors are asking, but I would actually like to charge more.

 

However, my outcall rate assumes that I can get there without taking a taxi. If the client is somewhere which is inaccessible to public transportation, or the hour is late, or they simply want me there ASAP, I say that the taxi fare will be additional & offer to provide a receipt.

[JT Brooklyn]

Not entirely new at this but wondering what the going rate is for a tip for a good experience based on some posts I have read in the past month. I've been doing 15 %.

 

My Tip is...Becoming a REG is the best Tip ya can give Hands Down!

[Guest RianB]

This is a bit off topic, but having worked in a resturaunt (long time ago-never again) I think the tip system works out well for that. I made decent money, but knew there was better. Some tables were far more demanding than others. Some people would get drunk and act like assholes. The family of 30 or the drunk who throws up all over the table should expect to tip way more than the quiet lady in the corner or the couple just having a romantic evening. A fix salary just wouldnt feel right.