In Defense of Bitchiness

[Guest Thunderbuns]

From time to time we all - either collectivly or otherwise - climb onto our high horse and lambast each other for being - how shall I put it? - less than kind to each other?

 

To my way of thinking, this is what gives any message board a soupcon of flavour and keeps the reading interesting.

 

How many of you would keep coming back to this board, especially the "Lounge" forum, if all you ever read were platitudes and polite little comments about how nice someone thought someone else's cock looked, and agreements about every thought ever posted? "Quelle bore", as Holly Golightly used to say.

 

But what I really can't understand, is that after one member has had a good go-a-round with another member - they stay mortal enemies for life [not a good policy should one wish to apply for a position in the Diplomatic Corps]. Why can't we have our little spats, then wipe the slate clean and start all over again. I seldom hold grudges for more than a decade or so :-)

 

Thunderbuns

[Rod Hagen]

start all over again. I seldom hold grudges for more than a

>decade or so :-)

 

 

Personally I don't hold grudges...I hold vendettas.

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

>Why can't we have our little spats, then wipe the slate clean and

>start all over again.

 

Because some of the posters are nasty, vindictive, bitter cunts who feel emasculated in their personal lives and they think they have found a safe harbor here to "show the world" how tough, clever and superior they are.

 

It is for these people that I apply Bette Midler's words of wisdom: "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke!"

 

Divaliciously yours,

 

FFF

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>>Why can't we have our little spats, then wipe the slate clean and

>>start all over again.

>

>Because some of the posters are nasty, vindictive, bitter

>cunts who feel emasculated in their personal lives and they

>think they have found a safe harbor here to "show the world"

>how tough, clever and superior they are.

 

Glad I asked :-)

 

 

Thunderbuns

[marc anthony]

Or some of them just change to a different one of their many sign in names to fight a new battle or defend their alter ego.

[duke37]

Sure the bitchiness can be entertaining if you aren't the target of the abuse. But the reason the site is useful to me is the information and the experiences the poster provide. I would never have hired a guy save for the information found here. And I think some others feel the same way.

 

Have fun, just don't drown out the serious information for those of us who need it.

 

Jeff

[Guest Charon]

Wiping the slate clean would mean that what people say has no meaning. If someone posts something stupid or bitchy or whatever, should you not judge them accordingly?

 

If I met someone at a party who called me a stupid fuck, I would probably choose to avoid them in the future. If they said they thought Jerry Falwell was just the smartest guy they knew, I would probably choose to avoid them in the future. And so on.

 

Why should it be different here?

 

On-line anonymity gives people the freedom to be as ugly as they wish, but it doesn't protect them from others judging them according to their actions, or in this case posts.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>Wiping the slate clean would mean that what people say has

>no meaning. If someone posts something stupid or bitchy or

>whatever, should you not judge them accordingly?

>

>If I met someone at a party who called me a stupid fuck, I

>would probably choose to avoid them in the future. If they

>said they thought Jerry Falwell was just the smartest guy

>they knew, I would probably choose to avoid them in the

>future. And so on.

>

>Why should it be different here?

>

>On-line anonymity gives people the freedom to be as ugly as

>they wish, but it doesn't protect them from others judging

>them according to their actions, or in this case posts.

 

If that's the way you feel - and the way you conduct your life - then that's OK too. Everyone should do what they feel comfortable with.

 

If you have a serious disagrement with one of your friends - I'm talking real life here, not an internet message board - is that person written off for life? I guess it may depend on the circumstances but in general I would say that is a big mistake. Life is too short - and don't forget - everybody has bad days, blond moments, whatever!

 

Have you never said something you have regretted later? Is it fair for the world to judge you by that one comment, forever and a day?

 

I don't think so - as I said above, life is far far to short.

 

Thunderbuns

[+ Lucky]

Thank god someone finally defended me!!!

[duke37]

>If you have a serious disagrement with one of your friends -

>I'm talking real life here, not an internet message board -

>is that person written off for life?

 

That may be one of the problems in real life we have a body of positive experiences to soften the blow when someone we like does something to piss us off. Here on the boards...not so much.

 

It may be useful to remember to say something positive once in a while so when you get into the flame war with someone you have some reputation for something else.

 

Oh yeah Thunderbuns you seem like a lot of fun. I can see a good time in coming to Vancouver with a big wad of cash and having you show me your town.

 

Jeff

[Guest Charon]

>If you have a serious disagrement with one of your friends -

>I'm talking real life here, not an internet message board -

>is that person written off for life?

 

Of course not. But I used the analogy of a party, because most of us here are strangers socializing to pass the time. The internet is a party with millions of strangers. If a few are rude or distasteful, I think it better to move on and chat with someone else. No doubt some of these judgements are wrong, perhaps even unfair, but time is not limitless, and the opportunities to chat are. You, therefore, must make choices or judgements about where you will invest your time and energy.

[+ imagooddog]

This was well stated, Thunderbuns !

This is a country of free speach and we are all entitled to our opinions for various topics (and our opinions about other people), even the ones that we only "know" from reading their posts on this message center. I have learned to appreciate the humor of such posters as FFF, Traveler, and of course, Rick Munroe. The only poster that seems to have a real "cob up his ass" towards others on this board is an escort whose picture looks really nice, but with an attitude such as his I would not EVER consider hiring this guy!x(

He seems to really get his jollies by calling other posters the worst names he can think of if they do not agree with his opinions.

Just my observation.

Thanks again, Thunder!

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>

>>If you have a serious disagrement with one of your friends -

>>I'm talking real life here, not an internet message board -

>>is that person written off for life?

>

>Of course not. But I used the analogy of a party, because

>most of us here are strangers socializing to pass the time.

>The internet is a party with millions of strangers. If a

>few are rude or distasteful, I think it better to move on

>and chat with someone else. No doubt some of these

>judgements are wrong, perhaps even unfair, but time is not

>limitless, and the opportunities to chat are. You,

>therefore, must make choices or judgements about where you

>will invest your time and energy.

 

And this applies to this discussion, how?

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest bottomboykk]

There's a major difference between having civil disagreements and bitchiness. Some people are simply not able to disagree without being an asshole. I would prefer that those types not post here. People like that need to grow up and act like real adults. Being civil in discourse is simply a matter of being a mature adult, a state some people around here certainly have not achieved.

 

As to the comparison with an argument with a friend: typically when something like that occurs between friends, at least one of them will apologize (again, something that is part of the maturation process) and the friends will make up, and then you wipe the slate clean. Very few of the "bitches" here ever apologize for their remarks here. How can you wipe the slate clean then?

 

There are several posters here who keep this place interesting through their humor and/or intelligent postings. Bitchiness is not at all needed to make this place interesting.

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>There's a major difference between having civil

>disagreements and bitchiness. Some people are simply not

>able to disagree without being an asshole. I would prefer

>that those types not post here.

 

But - as the song says "You can't always get what you want"

Unless of course you open your own message board, thus controlling the rules and monitoring every post.

 

>People like that need to

>grow up and act like real adults.

 

And you are the arbiter of what comprises a "real adult"? I see.

 

>Being civil in discourse

>is simply a matter of being a mature adult,

 

Ah yes - the perfect black and white world.

 

>As to the comparison with an argument with a friend:

>typically when something like that occurs between friends,

>at least one of them will apologize (again, something that

>is part of the maturation process) and the friends will make

>up, and then you wipe the slate clean. Very few of the

>"bitches" here ever apologize for their remarks here. How

>can you wipe the slate clean then?

 

Don't! Hold that grudge forever. It will do marvels for the profits of the pharmaceutical companies that sell blood pressure medications.

>

>There are several posters here who keep this place

>interesting through their humor and/or intelligent postings.

 

>Bitchiness is not at all needed to make this place

>interesting.

 

In your humble opinion. Decorum must take the day!

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest regulation]

>There's a major difference between having civil

>disagreements and bitchiness. Some people are simply not

>able to disagree without being an asshole. I would prefer

>that those types not post here. People like that need to

>grow up and act like real adults. Being civil in discourse

>is simply a matter of being a mature adult, a state some

>people around here certainly have not achieved.

 

 

That is well said. Some people who post here behave as though they simply can't understand the difference between saying "I think the point you made in your post is wrong," and saying "I think the point you made in your post is wrong and that means there is something wrong with you as a person." It seems a very simple distinction to me. Indeed, I think most people do understand it. It's just that some of them enjoy demeaning and insulting others, so they refuse to stop with the former and insist on crossing the line to the latter. I don't think people who do that should be surprised if the targets of their insults come to dislike them. It's a natural reaction.

 

>As to the comparison with an argument with a friend:

>typically when something like that occurs between friends,

>at least one of them will apologize (again, something that

>is part of the maturation process) and the friends will make

>up, and then you wipe the slate clean. Very few of the

>"bitches" here ever apologize for their remarks here. How

>can you wipe the slate clean then?

 

Here I have to differ with you. When someone goes out of his way to insult me simply because I have expressed an opinion on an issue that he disagrees with, I'm not going to forget about it simply because he recites a few magic words of apology. Behavior like that says something about a person's character, and it should help us to distinguish between the kind of people we want as friends and the kind of people we don't.

[Rod Hagen]

>an escort whose picture looks really nice,

 

This one?

http://www.rodhagen.com/ETOMST1.jpg

[Guest Blink]

FFF,

 

I really admire your manner and equanimity. You are one of the posters here that I like very well. Keep up the good job.

 

 

Blink

[Guest Bitchboy]

Pomposity is the one unforgiveable sin in my opinion. Occasionally, it abounds here.

[bluenix]

>Pomposity is the one unforgiveable sin in my opinion.

>Occasionally, it abounds here.

 

What about bad dancing?

[Guest bottomboykk]

>When someone goes out of

>his way to insult me simply because I have expressed an

>opinion on an issue that he disagrees with, I'm not going to

>forget about it simply because he recites a few magic words

>of apology. Behavior like that says something about a

>person's character, and it should help us to distinguish

>between the kind of people we want as friends and the kind

>of people we don't.

 

I was really referring to a truly genuine apology. People often say things in the heat of an argument that they really don't mean, and if someone apologizes to me and seems to mean it, I can move on. But if it happens again, that's it...no more friendship.

[Rod Hagen]

>Pomposity is the one unforgiveable sin in my opinion.

>Occasionally, it abounds here.

 

But in Donnie's case, you actually appreciated it, didn't you? I did.

[Guest bottomboykk]

>And you are the arbiter of what comprises a "real adult"? I

>see.

 

No, society is. And the society we live in tells us what it means to be mature. Some people never learn that lesson.

 

 

>Ah yes - the perfect black and white world.

 

Again, etiquette, as defined by our society, dictates civil discourse as being the way mature adults should interact in typical situations.

 

 

>In your humble opinion. Decorum must take the day!

 

Why not? What is gained otherwise?

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>>And you are the arbiter of what comprises a "real adult"? I

>>see.

>

>No, society is. And the society we live in tells us what it

>means to be mature. Some people never learn that lesson.

 

And I guess you're still trying?

>

>

>>Ah yes - the perfect black and white world.

>

>Again, etiquette, as defined by our society, dictates civil

>discourse as being the way mature adults should interact in

>typical situations.

 

Now you're going to tell us that a internet message board who sole purpose is to discuss whores falls unter the catagory of "typical situations"

>

>

>>In your humble opinion. Decorum must take the day!

>

>Why not? What is gained otherwise?

 

A chuckle or three. Lighten up!

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>>Pomposity is the one unforgiveable sin in my opinion.

>>Occasionally, it abounds here.

>

>What about bad dancing?

 

Or small cocks - and let's not ignore lousy blow jobs.

 

Thunderbuns