HAGEN-DAZed: str8 boys getting plowed?

[Guest jizzdepapi]

it dawned on me while reading one thread or another that i agree with what i would think Rick thinks on one point in the "Straight Guys" thread. i think this is a slightly different topic so i'm starting a new thread.

 

when i hear about a "straight" man getting fucked or sucking dick, i too question whether he is really gay. i think of straight guys who like to get serviced who, for whatever reason, get their rocks off by using a man to attain sexual pleasure (i guess they may, or may not, be concerned about their partner's pleasure).

 

not saying there's anything wrong with that--actually i'm often the partner--but i think it's bullshit when these men deny being bisexual.

 

i also think it has something to do with whether the "straight" man is attracted to his partner. probably a straight man looking to get serviced would prefer an in-shape, possibly handsome, partner. some make do with whoever is available and don't seem concerned about appearance a lot. anything more than that--a straight man finding a certain man sexually compelling--indicates bisexuality to me.

 

wonder what other people think about this. hope i don't piss anyone off if there's any "straight" men out here with ravaged holes or bobbing necks.

 

jizz

[chrismac]

>i also think it has something to do with whether the

>"straight" man is attracted to his partner.

 

Interesting question. I remember someone saying here that in the case of prison sex (rape) it often has more to do with a power issue. Maybe these so-called straight guys really are straight (whatever that means), and enjoy the power surge of being dominant over someone who so willingly plays submissive.

 

No one seems to know the answer - the human brain is a complex piece of meat indeed.

[Guest RushNY]

I agree with the fact that if you are getting your dick sucked on a regular basis by another guy you aint straight(a little crooked maybe !)but i'd like to chip in with another view,til the age of 25 i considered myself "straight" now age 39 i consider myself "gay",why well i havent had sex with a women for 12 years and wouldn't anyway now, i have a BF and before then had regular sexual liasions with other guys and escorts in several cities around the US, does that make me "bi"because i have had a sexual history with women i personally think not i dont consider myself to be bisexual to me that indicates someone who has regular sexual activity with both men and women at the same time with no preference,i know some straight guys have feelings they wanna explore and thats why things happen,my first sexual act with another man came at a party where i was a bit drunk and this guy was hitting on me maybe if i had been sober nothing would have happened or i would have beaten the shit out of him but the fact was he started off by sucking my dick and ended up in bed together which was a shock to me when i sobered up but an even bigger shock when i realised i had enjoyed it,maybe some straight men are waiting to discover this like i was and thats why it is such a thrill to some guys to get it off with a straight guy .

[Guest JH]

Personally, I don't find labels useful. I was "straight" until 4 years ago; that is to say that I hadn't got the guts to admit I was attracted to men, apart from several brief encounters that I rationaised as being experimentation.

 

Now my sexual partners are almost exclusively male, although I occasionally have sex with women - the last time was in February this year. Why? Well it's usually when I meet a woman I'm attracted to and want to be more intimate with. As a sweeping generalisation, women seem to be more sensitive and deep in their approach to intimacy than men - although I have met a few (wonderful) male exceptions.

 

I still find certain women attractive and will look at a pretty woman in the street or at bars, something which many of my gay male friends find incomprehensible and my lesbian friends find disconcerting!

 

If I had to label myself, then yes, I am gay and was bisexual for years previously. But labels are bits of paper stuck on to goods in a store, not something that can be sensibly applied to the complex and diverse area of an individuals sexuality.

[marc anthony]

Labels are useful in that they are descriptors, and they provide some characterization that you can use to make a mental image. The problem is not with labels themselves, but what people do with them. If you use them to demean, of course they can be harmful. If you use them to classify, then you are Aristotilian, and he was pretty smart!

 

Me... I was married before (to a woman). Pounded girls only in high school, college, and young adulthood (and liked it). Very "straight-acting" (another label) and blend in very well into a "straight" community and lifestyle.

 

Now it takes an unbelievably hot woman to get me going, but almost any twinky or hunky jock boi between 18 and 25 can get me going. And the real cute ones.... whew... "they take my breath away."

 

Marc (who went from a straight-acting latent gay to a straight-acting closeted, but "practicing" gay, and endorser of using labels to classify, not judge)

[+ SundayZip]

I get hung up when I try to use three, distinctly and completely discrete categories of sexual orientation called gay, bi and straight. As we've all heard about a thousand times, sexual orientation exists along a continuum that ranges from exclusive homosexuality to exclusive heterosexuality and includes various forms of bisexuality. I would like to purpose a different way to categorize sexual orientation…

 

Everybody would be assigned two numeric values that represent two dimensions to the sexual orientation thing. The first number is from 1 to 10 and indicates where our true sexual potential falls on the continuum. 1 is 100%, totally attracted to the opposite sex, and 10 is 100%, totally attracted to the same sex. This first number is useful because it lets us better understand a person - how they think and how they really feel.

 

The second number is more aligned to behavior and choices during the current stage of life. I have a female friend who played around with girls in college and sometimes finds women sexy, but is now married, has children, is in love he husband and is very committed to a monogamous relationship. Her first number might be a 4.5, but her second number is a 1 (at least for now). This number is useful because it lets us know if there's at least a chance of getting some sex action from the person.

 

This method gives us over 100 discrete classifications instead of just three. Wouldn't it be much more useful to know that someone is a 3/10 rather than just "bisexual"? If you're at a club and see a hot guy, rather than ask, is he straight, gay or bi?, ask for his numbers. If he's a 9/10, then maybe ask him out for a dinner and a movie. If he's a 2/10 (and at the Campus in Montreal), then head to the cash machine and get out the knee pads.

 

Just a modest proposal to make the world a better place...

[marc anthony]

Aristotle would be really proud of you! (and so would Socrates, LOL)

[Guest Thunderbuns]

>Just a modest proposal to make the world a better place...

 

And in this better world, the numbers would be tatooed on the forehead, right? ;-)

 

Thunderbuns

[Guest RushNY]

>>Just a modest proposal to make the world a better place...

>

>And in this better world, the numbers would be tatooed on

>the forehead, right? ;-)

>

>Thunderbuns

Surely if this was a "better world" the numbers would be tatooed on his butt :7

[+ deej]

>Labels are useful in that they are descriptors, and they

>provide some characterization that you can use to make a

>mental image.

 

This is not unlike the concept of "design patterns" which software engineering has recently "lifted" out of classical architecture study.

 

If you talk about a "door" most people have a common reference to understand form and function if not a concrete definition. They don't know if you're talking about a garage door, french doors onto a lovely patio, or the Great Gate of Kiev.

 

But they're all doors in one way or another, and everyone can relate in the abstract.

 

The terms "gay", "straight", and "bi" are similar. There are many variants with each, and many interpretations, but they're not much more than general categories.

[+ Axiom2001]

>it dawned on me while reading one thread or another that i

>agree with what i would think Rick thinks on one point in

>the "Straight Guys" thread. i think this is a slightly

>different topic so i'm starting a new thread.

>

>when i hear about a "straight" man getting fucked or sucking

>dick, i too question whether he is really gay. i think of

>straight guys who like to get serviced who, for whatever

>reason, get their rocks off by using a man to attain sexual

>pleasure (i guess they may, or may not, be concerned about

>their partner's pleasure).

>

>not saying there's anything wrong with that--actually i'm

>often the partner--but i think it's bullshit when these men

>deny being bisexual.

>

>i also think it has something to do with whether the

>"straight" man is attracted to his partner. probably a

>straight man looking to get serviced would prefer an

>in-shape, possibly handsome, partner. some make do with

>whoever is available and don't seem concerned about

>appearance a lot. anything more than that--a straight man

>finding a certain man sexually compelling--indicates

>bisexuality to me.

>

>wonder what other people think about this. hope i don't piss

>anyone off if there's any "straight" men out here with

>ravaged holes or bobbing necks.

>

>jizz

 

Write your thoughts and don't worry how they will affect ANYONE. Remember-- ALL OF US in this world is entitled to our opinions. They just necessarily DO NOT HAVE TO BE AGREE with. (Excuse the prepostion at the end of the sentence. It aint right, but it suffices here.)

[+ Axiom2001]

Hey, whaz up with all of the STRAIGHT Stuff within the past week? I am not adverse to it, it has appeared in a matter of a few days-- a lot.

Keep me reading and thinking and reflecting, guys!! :)

[Guest jizzdepapi]

taking it up the demographic?

 

descriptors...

 

jeez, and all this time i thought you were just a slut

[Guest jizzdepapi]

banging at the wrong door?

 

>garage door, french doors onto a lovely patio, or the Great Gate of Kiev....

 

where's the bungholes?

[Guest jizzdepapi]

plowed through or under?

 

yeah, but look what happend to them

[Guest jizzdepapi]

yup; even the dregs!

 

thanks, axiom. actually i live for the day when i'll make regulation laugh out loud and spit at a church lady.

[Guest jizzdepapi]

pecadillos and peckers

 

>I agree with the fact that if you are getting your dick sucked on a regular basis by another guy you aint straight...

 

please take another gander. though the above might have been the assumption on the "Straight Guys" thread, i'm positing the case where it is not on this one and, in fact, the situation you mention is the one that makes me question our assumptions the most.

 

go figure?! about the only thing i'm convinced of right now is that most men have cocks.

[Rick Munroe]

RE: pecadillos and peckers

 

>about the only thing i'm convinced of right now

>is that most men have cocks.

 

Most?? What do the other ones have? (on second thought, don't answer that) :o

[Guest jizzdepapi]

pecadillos & illusions

 

George Michaels album posters.

[+ deej]

RE: banging at the wrong door?

 

>where's the bungholes?

 

Those can also range from a garage door to lovely french doors to the Great Gate of Kiev. ;-)