Queer As Goofy

before i start, i have to say that the funniest thing in a voicemail in a long time was "well, you know my email address"... i'm not being mean; it was genuinely funny. kinda like my best friend calling, starting to leave his number, and then realising that i've got it. OKAY... so it isn't so funny when you talk about it! it was at the time!

anyway, the number you called, XXX-XXX-XXXX is actually the correct number to call. i never answer anonymous calls; that's why i wasn't able to speak with you then. i'd be happy to discuss things with you. i'm not entirely sure what remains to be discussed though. i doubt either of us is going to sway the other very much. i'll grant that you very probably don't "hate" me. i do think i made something of a case for arbitrariness and perhaps disdain though.

if it makes you feel better (and no, this isn't some "threat" to leave again) i plan on severely curtailing my participation. i started out with good feelings. the post we've all heard so much about wasn't such a big deal really. however, and whether i've agreed with you or not i have always maintained this, it is YOUR site. you can do anything you want with it.

now, all that being said, tonight's not likely to be a great time to chat. i'm supposed to be going out with a friend. i may cancel & if i do, i'll let you know. otherwise, anytime tomorrow afternoon is fine with me, but i don't know when we'll speak on the phone. i never accept anonymous or caller-id unavailable calls.

enjoy your night...

"Ethan"

DCescortBOY

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Subj: Re: phone message

Date: 11/01/2002 10:22:50 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: Boi4Buxx

i understand why you'd make calls the way you do. don't think i was trying to get you to not do it. i was just explaining my rationale for having not answered the call. (i'm not as impossible as i seem!)

i don't dislike you. i dislike arbitrariness. that remains your prerogative though. i know it seems strange, but i completely support your right to do whatever you want with your site. tonight just isn't great. my friend just called & he's looking for parking now. so, it is time for me to minimise the computer screen. i don't like "work" calls when i have friends around, so i usually turn off that particular phone & just set an away message on AOL. i'm not blowing you off. i'm more than willing to hear anything you have to say. this evening is just not the best time though. sorry. if you want, i can email you tomorrow with a good time for you to call. if you confirm, i'll answer the anonymous call at that particular time. (this way, you don't have to alter your dialing routine, and i don't have to worry about stalkers & game players.. win-win. :-) )

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Subj: Re: phone message

Date: 11/01/2002 10:11:10 PM Eastern Standard Time

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Hi Ethan,

Because I make so many calls around the world, I use calling cards which entail an 800 number, then codes etc., so that is why my number doesn't show up on your caller-id.

If you are available in the next few minutes, I will call you from another phone. I do not want to take more than five minutes of your time, but I would like to try and explain a couple of things to you that I think you do not understand. I am not trying to "sway" your opinion. You can continue to dislike me. I'm just trying to open lines of communication.

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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:03 PM

Subject: phone message

before i start, i have to say that the funniest thing in a voicemail in a long time was "well, you know my email address"... i'm not being mean; it was genuinely funny. kinda like my best friend calling, starting to leave his number, and then realising that i've got it. OKAY... so it isn't so funny when you talk about it! it was at the time!

anyway, the number you called, XXX-XXX-XXXX is actually the correct number to call. i never answer anonymous calls; that's why i wasn't able to speak with you then. i'd be happy to discuss things with you. i'm not entirely sure what remains to be discussed though. i doubt either of us is going to sway the other very much. i'll grant that you very probably don't "hate" me. i do think i made something of a case for arbitrariness and perhaps disdain though.

if it makes you feel better (and no, this isn't some "threat" to leave again) i plan on severely curtailing my participation. i started out with good feelings. the post we've all heard so much about wasn't such a big deal really. however, and whether i've agreed with you or not i have always maintained this, it is YOUR site. you can do anything you want with it.

now, all that being said, tonight's not likely to be a great time to chat. i'm supposed to be going out with a friend. i may cancel & if i do, i'll let you know. otherwise, anytime tomorrow afternoon is fine with me, but i don't know when we'll speak on the phone. i never accept anonymous or caller-id unavailable calls.

enjoy your night...

"Ethan"

DCescortBOY

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Subj: Re: phone message

Date: 12/01/2002 12:06:35 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: Boi4Buxx

send an email or something when you're up & awake so we can figure out the specific time. :-)

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Subj: Re: phone message

Date: 11/01/2002 10:29:42 PM Eastern Standard Time

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Hi Ethan,

That sounds like a good plan.

I'm going out with friends and its likely to be a very late night, so if we could schedule our call for around 6 or 7PM EST Saturday, that would be good for me in the event I sleep late. I do not like setting alarm clocks on the weekend (or anyday for that matter.)

Have a great weekend and I'm looking forward to speaking with you.

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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:22 PM

Subject: Re: phone message

i understand why you'd make calls the way you do. don't think i was trying to get you to not do it. i was just explaining my rationale for having not answered the call. (i'm not as impossible as i seem!)

i don't dislike you. i dislike arbitrariness. that remains your prerogative though. i know it seems strange, but i completely support your right to do whatever you want with your site. tonight just isn't great. my friend just called & he's looking for parking now. so, it is time for me to minimise the computer screen. i don't like "work" calls when i have friends around, so i usually turn off that particular phone & just set an away message on AOL. i'm not blowing you off. i'm more than willing to hear anything you have to say. this evening is just not the best time though. sorry. if you want, i can email you tomorrow with a good time for you to call. if you confirm, i'll answer the anonymous call at that particular time. (this way, you don't have to alter your dialing routine, and i don't have to worry about stalkers & game players.. win-win. :-) )

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Subj: Re: phone message

Date: 11/01/2002 10:11:10 PM Eastern Standard Time

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Hi Ethan,

Because I make so many calls around the world, I use calling cards which entail an 800 number, then codes etc., so that is why my number doesn't show up on your caller-id.

If you are available in the next few minutes, I will call you from another phone. I do not want to take more than five minutes of your time, but I would like to try and explain a couple of things to you that I think you do not understand. I am not trying to "sway" your opinion. You can continue to dislike me. I'm just trying to open lines of communication.

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Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:03 PM

Subject: phone message

before i start, i have to say that the funniest thing in a voicemail in a long time was "well, you know my email address"... i'm not being mean; it was genuinely funny. kinda like my best friend calling, starting to leave his number, and then realising that i've got it. OKAY... so it isn't so funny when you talk about it! it was at the time!

anyway, the number you called, XXX-XXX-XXXX is actually the correct number to call. i never answer anonymous calls; that's why i wasn't able to speak with you then. i'd be happy to discuss things with you. i'm not entirely sure what remains to be discussed though. i doubt either of us is going to sway the other very much. i'll grant that you very probably don't "hate" me. i do think i made something of a case for arbitrariness and perhaps disdain though.

if it makes you feel better (and no, this isn't some "threat" to leave again) i plan on severely curtailing my participation. i started out with good feelings. the post we've all heard so much about wasn't such a big deal really. however, and whether i've agreed with you or not i have always maintained this, it is YOUR site. you can do anything you want with it.

now, all that being said, tonight's not likely to be a great time to chat. i'm supposed to be going out with a friend. i may cancel & if i do, i'll let you know. otherwise, anytime tomorrow afternoon is fine with me, but i don't know when we'll speak on the phone. i never accept anonymous or caller-id unavailable calls.

enjoy your night...

"Ethan"

DCescortBOY

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Subj: when you call

Date: 12/01/2002 1:41:15 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: Boi4Buxx

it may get a bit dicey.

i should have had you call last night, because when i checked the message center this morning, i find that i'm moderated again. quite honestly, you've never had any sort of threat from anything i've ever posted. did you just not like that i took you to task? fine. if you don't want me on the message boards, just say so. moderating me will only have the effect of making me go away again. no, it won't be some public thing. i just cannot stand not having the messages go up so that i can follow the flow of the conversations. if it takes an hour or so to go up, then the flow is broken. i'll just not participate rather than have syncopated messaging.

hehe... we resolved that one without you even having to make another call.

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Subj: 6pm

Date: 12/01/2002 6:09:35 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: Boi4Buxx

i haven't heard from you so i'm guessing you decided against it.

that's cool, although i would have preferred to know.

BTW, your claim about the Travel section not having an archive & it being up to date is just laughable! over a year old? yeah, that's up to date!

but, it is YOUR site. just don't expect to be seen as fair. then again, would you care?

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Subj: phone

Date: 13/01/2002 8:00:49 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: Boi4Buxx

sorry.. i rearranged my schedule because you wanted to speak in the 6-7 time range. then, ya didn't call. i understand things aren't always under your control, but given the fact that i both modified my schedule, AND was prepared to break my long standing rule about anonymous calls. (incidentally, your explanation is not quite true, and i know it. calls of the nature you described register as "UNAVAILABLE" while yours was "ANONYMOUS". anonymous is only possible when the calling party has specifically blocked his number--either via a monthly subscription or on a per-call basis (*67 usually). now, i understand why you wouldn't want me having your number. i do not understand the intentional deception.)

another thing i don't understand is this supposed eminent calamity you seem to be protecting your site from with moderating me. you're full of shit on that one & we both know it. ALL of your moderators agree that there was no reason to even suspect any wrongdoing. quite honestly, you know that i'm not willing to deal with the broken nature of posting while moderated. i've told you as much. what reason could you possibly have for continuing to do so, other than a desire to see me gone, especially when your own cyberguards readily admit that they're stymied over your actions?

ya knw, you could have saved a WHOLE lot of face if you had handled this whole thing properly. simply saying something like "i wasn't paying a whole lot of attention. i should have left the post up. i'm sorry." would have silenced many of your critics. FINALLY, for ONCE, acknowledging that you're not perfect would have been a freaking coup for you. sadly, most men aren't capable of that. what you decided to do was make some ridiculous post about there not being an archive & everything being up to date. guess what? there is an archive & there is a posting there that it over a year old. seems sort of capricious & arbitrary to me.

the whole moderation thing could also have been handled in an adult fashion, but hasn't been. why are you so afraid to admit simple mistakes? hell... if you're so leery of a public announcement, you could have just done it & it would have passed unnoticed. if there were some sort of public notice, all you'd get from me is "thanks for re-un-moderating me."

i don't see us resolving this. i DID give it a good-faith effort. it just doesn't seem to be in the cards. no, i don't think you have some great hatred of me. i just think you can't bring yourself to admitting mistakes. what's the upshot of the whole thing? i suppose just that postings from me will probably only be few & far between--when i feel i have something exceptionally profound to contribute.

by the way, how can i see what's been said about me by your bald little friend in the escorts only section?

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Subj: Re: phone

Date: 13/01/2002 10:48:09 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: Boi4Buxx

you called from an anonymous number. i've explained before that i simply do not answer such calls.

clever though that you'd ignore the rest of the email.

some men jsut lack balls... what can i say?

go ahead & ban me like branden has suggested!

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Subj: Re: phone

Date: 13/01/2002 10:40:53 PM Eastern Standard Time

Sent from the Internet (Details)

My email request for a conversation with you clearly stated we could talk around 6 or 7. I emailed you at 6 and called you at 7. YOU weren't there.

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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:00 PM

Subject: phone

sorry.. i rearranged my schedule because you wanted to speak in the 6-7 time range. then, ya didn't call. i understand things aren't always under your control, but given the fact that i both modified my schedule, AND was prepared to break my long standing rule about anonymous calls. (incidentally, your explanation is not quite true, and i know it. calls of the nature you described register as "UNAVAILABLE" while yours was "ANONYMOUS". anonymous is only possible when the calling party has specifically blocked his number--either via a monthly subscription or on a per-call basis (*67 usually). now, i understand why you wouldn't want me having your number. i do not understand the intentional deception.)

another thing i don't understand is this supposed eminent calamity you seem to be protecting your site from with moderating me. you're full of shit on that one & we both know it. ALL of your moderators agree that there was no reason to even suspect any wrongdoing. quite honestly, you know that i'm not willing to deal with the broken nature of posting while moderated. i've told you as much. what reason could you possibly have for continuing to do so, other than a desire to see me gone, especially when your own cyberguards readily admit that they're stymied over your actions?

ya knw, you could have saved a WHOLE lot of face if you had handled this whole thing properly. simply saying something like "i wasn't paying a whole lot of attention. i should have left the post up. i'm sorry." would have silenced many of your critics. FINALLY, for ONCE, acknowledging that you're not perfect would have been a freaking coup for you. sadly, most men aren't capable of that. what you decided to do was make some ridiculous post about there not being an archive & everything being up to date. guess what? there is an archive & there is a posting there that it over a year old. seems sort of capricious & arbitrary to me.

the whole moderation thing could also have been handled in an adult fashion, but hasn't been. why are you so afraid to admit simple mistakes? hell... if you're so leery of a public announcement, you could have just done it & it would have passed unnoticed. if there were some sort of public notice, all you'd get from me is "thanks for re-un-moderating me."

i don't see us resolving this. i DID give it a good-faith effort. it just doesn't seem to be in the cards. no, i don't think you have some great hatred of me. i just think you can't bring yourself to admitting mistakes. what's the upshot of the whole thing? i suppose just that postings from me will probably only be few & far between--when i feel i have something exceptionally profound to contribute.

by the way, how can i see what's been said about me by your bald little friend in the escorts only section?

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Subj: Re: phone

Date: 13/01/2002 10:50:36 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: Boi4Buxx

at 6, since i hadn't heard from you & i CLEARLY indicated that i would need advance notice to accept an anonymous call, i felt that i was more than justified in getting offline for a while. by 7, i AGAIN felt justified to try to salvage what was left of my night. you'd be amusing if you weren't so terribly pathetic.

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Subj: ROFL.. don't email me if you don't want a reply fuckhead

Date: 13/01/2002 11:01:58 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: Boi4Buxx

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Subj: Returned UNread

Date: 13/01/2002 11:01:11 PM Eastern Standard Time

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Subj: Re: phone

Date: 13/01/2002 11:04:06 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: Boi4Buxx

at 6, i was justified in signing offline. at 7, i was justified in trying to salvage my day. if he had the balls to NOT hide his number from caller ID i would have answered. since he failed to establish a SPECIFIC time, i didn't feel the need to answer an anonymous call.

he's truly among the more pathetic people on the planet.

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Subj: Re: Lets Settle This

Date: 17/01/2002 10:51:24 AM Eastern Standard Time

From: Boi4Buxx

you've proposed that i do something. what is it that you're going to do?

P.S. sorry... i thought you used the other email address. it is still early in the morning for me!

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Subj: Lets Settle This

Date: 17/01/2002 6:14:29 AM Eastern Standard Time

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I propose.

You

Post every email message we had, in the order they were written.....with NO

edits....and with all time stamps. and no commentary.

That's it.

If you do that, you have my permission to publish all my email to you prior

to 1/17/2002 if it is published with no edits and you have my permission to

publish this.

HooBoy

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Subj: Re: Fw: Lets Settle This

Date: 17/01/2002 10:52:45 AM Eastern Standard Time

From: Boi4Buxx

the "i'll bust you" nonsense is ridiculous. 1) "bust" away baby. 2) post whatever you want. 3) you'll have to. i think i've already deleted some of the old mail & G_d knows i don't want to be "busted".

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Subj: Fw: Lets Settle This

Date: 17/01/2002 6:29:06 AM Eastern Standard Time

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I want to make it clear...you must post EVERY email message we had...(I have

them all and if you leave any one out, I'll bust you.)

Lets let our words between us make the case.

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From: "HooBoy" <hooboy@male4malescorts.com>

To: <Boi4Buxx@aol.com>

Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 5:08 AM

Subject: Lets Settle This

> I propose.

>

> You

>

> Post every email message we had, in the order they were written.....with

NO

> edits....and with all time stamps. and no commentary.

>

> That's it.

>

> If you do that, you have my permission to publish all my email to you

prior

> to 1/17/2002 if it is published with no edits and you have my permission

to

> publish this.

>

> HooBoy

>

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Subj: Re: Settlement

Date: 17/01/2002 11:03:46 AM Eastern Standard Time

From: Boi4Buxx

my cousin is having a testicle removed today (no... i'm not making that up! call inova-fairfax hospital if you want. hell, i didn't believe it when he told me.) so in about 30 minutes, i'm leaving for the hospital & i'll likely be gone all day.

what is talking on the phone going to resolve? i don't want to just rehash everything in this email that we've talked about before, but...

1) did moderating me serve any purpose at all? no. you didn't have to prevent any posting because it violated any rules. when i was un-moderated before, i didn't violate any rules. in the couple of minutes when i was un-moderated today, i didn't violate any rules.

2) you may post any emails you wish. you didn't receive a single email from me before you re-moderated me, so i'm not sure what they're going to prove other than the fact that i didn't like beng re-moderated.

3) what is it you want to discuss on the phone? i don't take well to lectures unless you work for a school i pay $36,000 a year to bore me. (yeah, that's a joke.)

i'm not saying that i won't speak to you. i'm just saying that i'm not sure what it is you're expecting to get out of it. the "lets [sic] settle this" email proposed me doing something, but didn't propose anything from you. why should i post the emails if as soon as i do, you're going to remoderate me? i don't want to seem selfish, but i can't see what's in it for me. if it is to sway public opinion, i just don't care about that. but, as i said before, you're welcome to post the emails. i deleted some of the old ones & after 24 hours, AOL permanently deletes them, so i won't be able to post all of them. posting some would apparently get me "busted" (what IS that anyway?), so i don't want to do that.

well, enjoy hawaii. i have to shower & go to the hospital. i'll be back sometime this afternoon or evening, but i don't have any way of knowing when.

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Subj: Settlement

Date: 17/01/2002 7:25:00 AM Eastern Standard Time

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Ethan,

Before this stupid thing goes further, would you like another chance for us

to talk?

I am in Hawaii, so our time difference is like 5 or 6 hours, but I would

much rather resolve this between you and me rather than going public.

I will give you MY phone number and you can call me at an appointed time.

It's up to you, babe.

HooBoy

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Subj: why email me if you don't accept response?

Date: 17/01/2002 11:22:26 PM Eastern Standard Time

From: Boi4Buxx

if you had read my response, you'd know that i was dealing with a family health situation all day today.

you're the one who wants the emails posted, so do it. i'm not hiding anything. i don't take orders from you though.

you listed hoops for me to jump through but didn't explain what was in it for me.

lastly, i don't see what we have to talk about, but, if you think it is a good idea, let me know the number to call, or, we can arrange a specific time for you to call me tonight (preferrably before 2am, because i'm kind of exhausted from being at the hospital all day.

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Subj: going to bed

Date: 18/01/2002 1:10:54 AM Eastern Standard Time

From: Boi4Buxx

i'm going to take a hot bath & go to bed. if you're intent on talking to me, you'll have to do it without blocking the number, since i didn't get a number to call you.

feel free to call; i should be up for about an hour.

take care.

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Subj: Re: phone message

Date: 11/01/2002 10:11:10 PM Eastern Standard Time

Sent from the Internet (Details)

Hi Ethan,

Because I make so many calls around the world, I use calling cards which entail an 800 number, then codes etc., so that is why my number doesn't show up on your caller-id.

If you are available in the next few minutes, I will call you from another phone. I do not want to take more than five minutes of your time, but I would like to try and explain a couple of things to you that I think you do not understand. I am not trying to "sway" your opinion. You can continue to dislike me. I'm just trying to open lines of communication.

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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:03 PM

Subject: phone message

before i start, i have to say that the funniest thing in a voicemail in a long time was "well, you know my email address"... i'm not being mean; it was genuinely funny. kinda like my best friend calling, starting to leave his number, and then realising that i've got it. OKAY... so it isn't so funny when you talk about it! it was at the time!

anyway, the number you called, XXX-XXX-XXXX is actually the correct number to call. i never answer anonymous calls; that's why i wasn't able to speak with you then. i'd be happy to discuss things with you. i'm not entirely sure what remains to be discussed though. i doubt either of us is going to sway the other very much. i'll grant that you very probably don't "hate" me. i do think i made something of a case for arbitrariness and perhaps disdain though.

if it makes you feel better (and no, this isn't some "threat" to leave again) i plan on severely curtailing my participation. i started out with good feelings. the post we've all heard so much about wasn't such a big deal really. however, and whether i've agreed with you or not i have always maintained this, it is YOUR site. you can do anything you want with it.

now, all that being said, tonight's not likely to be a great time to chat. i'm supposed to be going out with a friend. i may cancel & if i do, i'll let you know. otherwise, anytime tomorrow afternoon is fine with me, but i don't know when we'll speak on the phone. i never accept anonymous or caller-id unavailable calls.

enjoy your night...

"Ethan"

DCescortBOY

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Subj: Re: phone message

Date: 11/01/2002 10:29:42 PM Eastern Standard Time

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Hi Ethan,

That sounds like a good plan.

I'm going out with friends and its likely to be a very late night, so if we could schedule our call for around 6 or 7PM EST Saturday, that would be good for me in the event I sleep late. I do not like setting alarm clocks on the weekend (or anyday for that matter.)

Have a great weekend and I'm looking forward to speaking with you.

HooBoy

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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:22 PM

Subject: Re: phone message

i understand why you'd make calls the way you do. don't think i was trying to get you to not do it. i was just explaining my rationale for having not answered the call. (i'm not as impossible as i seem!)

i don't dislike you. i dislike arbitrariness. that remains your prerogative though. i know it seems strange, but i completely support your right to do whatever you want with your site. tonight just isn't great. my friend just called & he's looking for parking now. so, it is time for me to minimise the computer screen. i don't like "work" calls when i have friends around, so i usually turn off that particular phone & just set an away message on AOL. i'm not blowing you off. i'm more than willing to hear anything you have to say. this evening is just not the best time though. sorry. if you want, i can email you tomorrow with a good time for you to call. if you confirm, i'll answer the anonymous call at that particular time. (this way, you don't have to alter your dialing routine, and i don't have to worry about stalkers & game players.. win-win. :-) )

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Subj: Re: phone message

Date: 11/01/2002 10:11:10 PM Eastern Standard Time

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Hi Ethan,

Because I make so many calls around the world, I use calling cards which entail an 800 number, then codes etc., so that is why my number doesn't show up on your caller-id.

If you are available in the next few minutes, I will call you from another phone. I do not want to take more than five minutes of your time, but I would like to try and explain a couple of things to you that I think you do not understand. I am not trying to "sway" your opinion. You can continue to dislike me. I'm just trying to open lines of communication.

HooBoy

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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:03 PM

Subject: phone message

before i start, i have to say that the funniest thing in a voicemail in a long time was "well, you know my email address"... i'm not being mean; it was genuinely funny. kinda like my best friend calling, starting to leave his number, and then realising that i've got it. OKAY... so it isn't so funny when you talk about it! it was at the time!

anyway, the number you called, XXX-XXX-XXXX is actually the correct number to call. i never answer anonymous calls; that's why i wasn't able to speak with you then. i'd be happy to discuss things with you. i'm not entirely sure what remains to be discussed though. i doubt either of us is going to sway the other very much. i'll grant that you very probably don't "hate" me. i do think i made something of a case for arbitrariness and perhaps disdain though.

if it makes you feel better (and no, this isn't some "threat" to leave again) i plan on severely curtailing my participation. i started out with good feelings. the post we've all heard so much about wasn't such a big deal really. however, and whether i've agreed with you or not i have always maintained this, it is YOUR site. you can do anything you want with it.

now, all that being said, tonight's not likely to be a great time to chat. i'm supposed to be going out with a friend. i may cancel & if i do, i'll let you know. otherwise, anytime tomorrow afternoon is fine with me, but i don't know when we'll speak on the phone. i never accept anonymous or caller-id unavailable calls.

enjoy your night...

"Ethan"

DCescortBOY

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Subj: Re: phone message

Date: 12/01/2002 6:11:53 PM Eastern Standard Time

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Hi there,

I am just getting moving.

I'd like to phone you at 7pm Eastern, if that is okay with you.

If so, please email me back. Also, I didn't write down your phone number. If you can send me a number I may call, that will save me from having to look it up again. :-)

Thanks.

HooBoy

PS: If that is not a good time for you, let me know what will be. I will be available till 9pm

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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 11:06 AM

Subject: Re: phone message

send an email or something when you're up & awake so we can figure out the specific time. :-)

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Subj: Re: phone message

Date: 11/01/2002 10:29:42 PM Eastern Standard Time

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Hi Ethan,

That sounds like a good plan.

I'm going out with friends and its likely to be a very late night, so if we could schedule our call for around 6 or 7PM EST Saturday, that would be good for me in the event I sleep late. I do not like setting alarm clocks on the weekend (or anyday for that matter.)

Have a great weekend and I'm looking forward to speaking with you.

HooBoy

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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:22 PM

Subject: Re: phone message

i understand why you'd make calls the way you do. don't think i was trying to get you to not do it. i was just explaining my rationale for having not answered the call. (i'm not as impossible as i seem!)

i don't dislike you. i dislike arbitrariness. that remains your prerogative though. i know it seems strange, but i completely support your right to do whatever you want with your site. tonight just isn't great. my friend just called & he's looking for parking now. so, it is time for me to minimise the computer screen. i don't like "work" calls when i have friends around, so i usually turn off that particular phone & just set an away message on AOL. i'm not blowing you off. i'm more than willing to hear anything you have to say. this evening is just not the best time though. sorry. if you want, i can email you tomorrow with a good time for you to call. if you confirm, i'll answer the anonymous call at that particular time. (this way, you don't have to alter your dialing routine, and i don't have to worry about stalkers & game players.. win-win. :-) )

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Subj: Re: phone message

Date: 11/01/2002 10:11:10 PM Eastern Standard Time

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Hi Ethan,

Because I make so many calls around the world, I use calling cards which entail an 800 number, then codes etc., so that is why my number doesn't show up on your caller-id.

If you are available in the next few minutes, I will call you from another phone. I do not want to take more than five minutes of your time, but I would like to try and explain a couple of things to you that I think you do not understand. I am not trying to "sway" your opinion. You can continue to dislike me. I'm just trying to open lines of communication.

HooBoy

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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:03 PM

Subject: phone message

before i start, i have to say that the funniest thing in a voicemail in a long time was "well, you know my email address"... i'm not being mean; it was genuinely funny. kinda like my best friend calling, starting to leave his number, and then realising that i've got it. OKAY... so it isn't so funny when you talk about it! it was at the time!

anyway, the number you called, XXX-XXX-XXXX is actually the correct number to call. i never answer anonymous calls; that's why i wasn't able to speak with you then. i'd be happy to discuss things with you. i'm not entirely sure what remains to be discussed though. i doubt either of us is going to sway the other very much. i'll grant that you very probably don't "hate" me. i do think i made something of a case for arbitrariness and perhaps disdain though.

if it makes you feel better (and no, this isn't some "threat" to leave again) i plan on severely curtailing my participation. i started out with good feelings. the post we've all heard so much about wasn't such a big deal really. however, and whether i've agreed with you or not i have always maintained this, it is YOUR site. you can do anything you want with it.

now, all that being said, tonight's not likely to be a great time to chat. i'm supposed to be going out with a friend. i may cancel & if i do, i'll let you know. otherwise, anytime tomorrow afternoon is fine with me, but i don't know when we'll speak on the phone. i never accept anonymous or caller-id unavailable calls.

enjoy your night...

"Ethan"

DCescortBOY

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Subj: Re: phone

Date: 13/01/2002 10:40:53 PM Eastern Standard Time

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My email request for a conversation with you clearly stated we could talk around 6 or 7. I emailed you at 6 and called you at 7. YOU weren't there.

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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:00 PM

Subject: phone

sorry.. i rearranged my schedule because you wanted to speak in the 6-7 time range. then, ya didn't call. i understand things aren't always under your control, but given the fact that i both modified my schedule, AND was prepared to break my long standing rule about anonymous calls. (incidentally, your explanation is not quite true, and i know it. calls of the nature you described register as "UNAVAILABLE" while yours was "ANONYMOUS". anonymous is only possible when the calling party has specifically blocked his number--either via a monthly subscription or on a per-call basis (*67 usually). now, i understand why you wouldn't want me having your number. i do not understand the intentional deception.)

another thing i don't understand is this supposed eminent calamity you seem to be protecting your site from with moderating me. you're full of shit on that one & we both know it. ALL of your moderators agree that there was no reason to even suspect any wrongdoing. quite honestly, you know that i'm not willing to deal with the broken nature of posting while moderated. i've told you as much. what reason could you possibly have for continuing to do so, other than a desire to see me gone, especially when your own cyberguards readily admit that they're stymied over your actions?

ya knw, you could have saved a WHOLE lot of face if you had handled this whole thing properly. simply saying something like "i wasn't paying a whole lot of attention. i should have left the post up. i'm sorry." would have silenced many of your critics. FINALLY, for ONCE, acknowledging that you're not perfect would have been a freaking coup for you. sadly, most men aren't capable of that. what you decided to do was make some ridiculous post about there not being an archive & everything being up to date. guess what? there is an archive & there is a posting there that it over a year old. seems sort of capricious & arbitrary to me.

the whole moderation thing could also have been handled in an adult fashion, but hasn't been. why are you so afraid to admit simple mistakes? hell... if you're so leery of a public announcement, you could have just done it & it would have passed unnoticed. if there were some sort of public notice, all you'd get from me is "thanks for re-un-moderating me."

i don't see us resolving this. i DID give it a good-faith effort. it just doesn't seem to be in the cards. no, i don't think you have some great hatred of me. i just think you can't bring yourself to admitting mistakes. what's the upshot of the whole thing? i suppose just that postings from me will probably only be few & far between--when i feel i have something exceptionally profound to contribute.

by the way, how can i see what's been said about me by your bald little friend in the escorts only section?

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Date: 13/01/2002 11:01:11 PM Eastern Standard Time

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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 9:50 PM

Subject: Re: phone

at 6, since i hadn't heard from you & i CLEARLY indicated that i would need advance notice to accept an anonymous call, i felt that i was more than justified in getting offline for a while. by 7, i AGAIN felt justified to try to salvage what was left of my night. you'd be amusing if you weren't so terribly pathetic.

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Subj: Re: phone

Date: 13/01/2002 10:40:53 PM Eastern Standard Time

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My email request for a conversation with you clearly stated we could talk around 6 or 7. I emailed you at 6 and called you at 7. YOU weren't there.

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----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:00 PM

Subject: phone

sorry.. i rearranged my schedule because you wanted to speak in the 6-7 time range. then, ya didn't call. i understand things aren't always under your control, but given the fact that i both modified my schedule, AND was prepared to break my long standing rule about anonymous calls. (incidentally, your explanation is not quite true, and i know it. calls of the nature you described register as "UNAVAILABLE" while yours was "ANONYMOUS". anonymous is only possible when the calling party has specifically blocked his number--either via a monthly subscription or on a per-call basis (*67 usually). now, i understand why you wouldn't want me having your number. i do not understand the intentional deception.)

another thing i don't understand is this supposed eminent calamity you seem to be protecting your site from with moderating me. you're full of shit on that one & we both know it. ALL of your moderators agree that there was no reason to even suspect any wrongdoing. quite honestly, you know that i'm not willing to deal with the broken nature of posting while moderated. i've told you as much. what reason could you possibly have for continuing to do so, other than a desire to see me gone, especially when your own cyberguards readily admit that they're stymied over your actions?

ya knw, you could have saved a WHOLE lot of face if you had handled this whole thing properly. simply saying something like "i wasn't paying a whole lot of attention. i should have left the post up. i'm sorry." would have silenced many of your critics. FINALLY, for ONCE, acknowledging that you're not perfect would have been a freaking coup for you. sadly, most men aren't capable of that. what you decided to do was make some ridiculous post about there not being an archive & everything being up to date. guess what? there is an archive & there is a posting there that it over a year old. seems sort of capricious & arbitrary to me.

the whole moderation thing could also have been handled in an adult fashion, but hasn't been. why are you so afraid to admit simple mistakes? hell... if you're so leery of a public announcement, you could have just done it & it would have passed unnoticed. if there were some sort of public notice, all you'd get from me is "thanks for re-un-moderating me."

i don't see us resolving this. i DID give it a good-faith effort. it just doesn't seem to be in the cards. no, i don't think you have some great hatred of me. i just think you can't bring yourself to admitting mistakes. what's the upshot of the whole thing? i suppose just that postings from me will probably only be few & far between--when i feel i have something exceptionally profound to contribute.

by the way, how can i see what's been said about me by your bald little friend in the escorts only section?

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Subj: Lets Settle This

Date: 17/01/2002 6:14:29 AM Eastern Standard Time

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I propose.

You

Post every email message we had, in the order they were written.....with NO

edits....and with all time stamps. and no commentary.

That's it.

If you do that, you have my permission to publish all my email to you prior

to 1/17/2002 if it is published with no edits and you have my permission to

publish this.

HooBoy

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Subj: Fw: Lets Settle This

Date: 17/01/2002 6:29:06 AM Eastern Standard Time