The meening of kwanzaa

[Guest cp8036]

Like in Rwanda, where the new national anthem is

>"Tut-Tut-Tutsi, Goodbye!"?

 

that happened becuase of the dutch colonization, before the white man invaded and took over, rawanda had peace

 

Craig,

 

Learn more about European Colonization of Africa. The Germans colonized Rwanda in 1899. Later the League of Nations gave administrative control to the Belgians and the Germans.

 

There is some Dutch colonization of the Rep of South Africa, along with the British. The Dutch did colonize Indonesia, Malaysia, New Zealand, and for a time New York.

[Donnie]

>Thankfully you capture well my thoughts on this and saved me

>the time and effort of a response, had I been inclined to

>do so, of which I'm doubtful.

 

Yech, what a fuckin smarmy faggoty attitude. It's just like your schoolmarm admonitions in the "voting" section. You're just so superior to us all and this is all just soooo beneath you, and yet still you can't help posting anyway. Craig spoke from the heart, and you can only speak out of your stinky hole.

[BewareofNick]

>>Thankfully you capture well my thoughts on this and saved me

>>the time and effort of a response, had I been inclined to

>>do so, of which I'm doubtful.

>

>Yech, what a fuckin smarmy faggoty attitude. It's just like

>your schoolmarm admonitions in the "voting" section. You're

>just so superior to us all and this is all just soooo

>beneath you, and yet still you can't help posting anyway.

>Craig spoke from the heart, and you can only speak out of

>your stinky hole.

 

And judging by the..thoughtfulness... of your reply one might assume that your hole and your heart are one and the same

[Guest CraigSF39]

>Having put off reading this thread because the subject

>put me off and has from day one... I finallly got

>around to it and was my first inclination correct.

 

of course the subject put you off - its an african holiday, celebrating african culture. why would a fat old hateful self-centerd white asshole like you care about it?

 

>Thankfully you capture well my thoughts on this and saved me

>the time and effort of a response, had I been inclined to

>do so, of which I'm doubtful.

 

you sound like a fat pompos old idiot, if kwanzaa is to disguting to you and beneth you, why did you post at all? just to show every one how above it you are, how you remain above the low things - like black people. you worship yourself and its sad.

[BewareofNick]

The sad thing here Craig is that you appear to be every bit the racist that you accuse others of being. Kwanzaa is just as valid a holiday as Christmas or Chanukkah. Some people find all three over- commercialized and redundant. I say celebrate as you want.

 

But you are one of those people who apparently sees things solely in terms of color: black and white. If someone disagrees with you, you automatically label them a racist. You fail to see the subtle differences. The shades of grey if you will. You value European countries where freedom of speech is curtailed and punished and you abhor this country where that freedom is a fundamental right.

 

Have you ever heard the Chanukkah Song by Adam Sandler? Or what about the Twelve Days of Christmas by Bob and Doug McKenzie? These songs poke fun at those holidays and the people who celebrate them. I think they're funny just as Shirley Q's song is. Does that make me anti-white or anti-Jew?

 

Yet that shouldn't surprise me, because everything in your world is either/or with no middle ground. I think that's sad. Maybe instead of rushing to judgement and labelling people you could actually engage in some meaningful dialogue. The world isn't as simple or as clear cut as you would like to believe it is.

 

To that end, I leave you with a quote from someone I admire very much:

 

“I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Donnie,

 

It just must be our day to dance...

 

>

>Yech, what a fuckin smarmy faggoty attitude. It's just like

>your schoolmarm admonitions in the "voting" section.

 

It seems to me that in this thread exchange you are the one with attitude.

 

> You're

>just so superior to us all and this is all just soooo

>beneath you,

 

Funny I don't feel superior to most... I want to thank you for providing the exception though. That was very thoughful of you... ummm... well you know what I mean.

 

>and yet still you can't help posting anyway.

 

This coming from you???...

 

>Craig spoke from the heart,

 

Never said he didn't... so did Hitler and for that matter Usama Baby... not that I am equating either of the heinous characters when your friend Craig. The point: speaking from the heart does not necessarily make one logical and coherent in thought and presentation much less right.

 

> and you can only speak out of

>your stinky hole.

 

Donnie, I can't hold a candle to you...

 

ciao

[Donnie]

>Donnie, I can't hold a candle to you...

 

So shove a lit one up your dirty used hole instead.

[Guest Joey Ciccone]

>Yech, what a fuckin smarmy faggoty attitude. It's just like

>your schoolmarm admonitions in the "voting" section. You're

>just so superior to us all and this is all just soooo

>beneath you, and yet still you can't help posting anyway.

>Craig spoke from the heart, and you can only speak out of

>your stinky hole.

 

That's the worst TruthTeller impersonation I've ever read.

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Donnie,

 

Your shut off...

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Craig,

 

The gods smile on you today...

 

I went to some effort to respond to your bullshit post in the frank manner of my mood today. But as fate would have it I lost the response in some fancy keyboarding. And while it was worth the effort once -- well, maybe not -- it is definitely not worth it the second time.

 

So continue through life fat dumb and happy with your eyes tuned only to the black and white world and with your mind clouded or is it... up in the clouds -- you are not alone.

 

Happy Kwanza... I guess you know what that means. :+

[Donnie]

>Your shut off...

 

I believe it's spelled "you're" but that's a common mistake that morons make.

[Donnie]

>Craig,

>

>The gods smile on you today...

 

ECHHHHH!!!!!! Will you fucking get over yourself already? Craig was spared being read by a tired queen. What a fucking ego you have. One would think you were an escort instead of the troll you are.

[Guest Joey Ciccone]

RE: The meaning of klown

 

>africa is about life and giving and love, , unlike the west, which is about conquer and slavery and power. ...africa and african americans must be cherished and respected and celebrated.<

 

So are you from Africa or the West? Whichever the case, you're a fucking hypocrite.

 

>what are you doing to honor kwanzaa?<

 

What are you doing, aside from casting aspersions on the reputations of people trying to make a living, in part, through their exposure on this site?

 

I've never exchanged a single post or email with you, and in fact were unaware of your very existance until I read the hateful things you said in my ratings. Why in the world would you do such a rotten thing? You don't even know me, yet you'd attempt to sabotage my business by planting vulgar lies in a spot where a potential client might go to gather additional info to help make a decision? Why did you do that to me and other escorts here, and how could you then start this thread about love and respect?

 

I don't expect a valid answer to my queries, so spare us the stammering babble.

 

>let us honor african americans for all that was done to them, all that they are. in kwanzaa, we are all african:

 

Yeah, and on earth we're all human. Get with the program, bonehead.

[Donnie]

RE: The meaning of klown

 

>I've never exchanged a single post or email with you, and in

>fact were unaware of your very existance until I read the

>hateful things you said in my ratings. Why in the world

>would you do such a rotten thing?

 

Don't blame poor Craig. It might just have been the shock of seeing your pics for the first time. I'm sure he meant no serious harm.

 

(btw thanks for tipping us all off to go read his rating of you, since most of us would never have noticed. Cool!)

[BewareofNick]

RE: The meaning of klown

 

Speaking of ratings, I gave Craig a positive rating (even though he gave me a negative one). He seemed to find my comments offensive for some reason...

[Guest Fin Fang Foom]

Try as I might, I can't figure out a way to work "Screaming like a black lady in church" into this thread - but it's crying out to be included.

 

I think Craig and the "damit" guy (what was his name?) were separated at birth.

 

Genetically yours,

 

FFF

[Guest Joey Ciccone]

RE: The meaning of klown

 

>Don't blame poor Craig. It might just have been the shock

>of seeing your pics for the first time. I'm sure he meant

>no serious harm.

 

Uh-oh, it's the peanut gallery. No wait, it's just the peanut. Nevermind.

[BewareofNick]

>Try as I might, I can't figure out a way to work "Screaming

>like a black lady in church" into this thread - but it's

>crying out to be included.

>

>I think Craig and the "damit" guy (what was his name?) were

>separated at birth.

>

>Genetically yours,

>

>FFF

 

 

FFF, I think Shirley Q, the author of the 12 days of Kwanzaa would qualify as screaming like a black lady in church (I've heard her sing!)

[Guest CraigSF39]

>According to your website blurb, part of the main point of

>Kwanzaa is to create a "cultural holiday" (aren't all

>holidays cultural?) "specific to our needs" -- "our needs"

>being the needs of African Americans. If white people and

>other non-African Americans start jumping in to celebrate,

>aren't we effectively DIShonoring Kwanzaa by "appropriating"

>a holiday not intended for us?

 

no, we honor african-americans by honoring their heritage, the same way we honor jews by wareing beanies on jew holidaies or muslims by putting up cresents.

 

>Again, nothing in the excerpt you cite supports that idea.

>Just the opposite. Every "we" and "us" is either African or

>African American, and the gist of the piece is that blacks

>need a mid-winter holiday of their own.

 

during kwanzaa, i AM african, if you are not its not a suprise, most white gay men in SF are very insensitiv, which is why theres so much anger from gay minorities - to white gay men like you who say things like - oh its THEIR holiday - them - the ones over there. fuck you.

[+ Lucky]

RE: The meaning of kwanzaa

 

Craig is a mere shadow of that other guy. But they are both great spokespersons for their beliefs.

The spirit of kwanzaa has never touched me this way before....

[Donnie]

RE: The meaning of klown

 

>Uh-oh, it's the peanut gallery. No wait, it's just the

>peanut.

 

Joey Joey Joey, do we really need to be apprised of what's falling out of your horribly stretched & no longer elastic (due to age and overuse) hole?

[Guest ringding]

>during kwanzaa, i AM african

 

i am ringding

i am dark and chocolatey on the outside

white and creamy on the inside

don't hate me because i am both

peace and love to all

[Scorpio]

RE: The meaning of klown

 

>>What are you doing, aside from casting aspersions on the

>>reputations of people trying to make a living, in part,

>>through their exposure on this site?

>

>i thought the purpose of this sight was to comment honestly

>on the prostitutes, i saw your pictures and did that, why

>are you mad? i thought thats what this sight was for.

 

Craig--

 

Growing up in the South, my mother and my grandmother raised me with the ideal that if you didn’t have something nice to say about someone it’s usually best to keep your mouth shut. So I have held my tongue as I have observed you sling unfounded accusations of racism, fascism and pedophilia at posters when they don’t conform to your warped sense political correctness.

 

However, in your case, I’m making an exception. You have proven yourself to be not only stupid and vindictive but an absolute hypocrite.

 

Check out the frequently asked questions icon (FAQ) and you’ll discover what the purpose of the user rating system is. But in case you’re too busy spouting your today I’m an African, tomorrow I’m Muslim drivel I’ll save you the trouble:

 

"What is user rating system?"

 

It allows users to rate the level of contribution a specific user makes to the community.

 

The user rating system is not a place for you to comment at will about whether or not you find someone unattractive or whether or not you think someone is fat or whether or not you think someone is old. Your rating of Joey Ciccone had no bearing on his contribution to this message center. Unlike your own posts, Joey’s posts are always coherently and intelligently written. The fact that you find him “ugly” is irrelevant to his contributions as a poster. But unfortunately now anyone that checks Joey’s ratings will be faced with your warped characterization of him.

 

The purpose of the review section of this site is to report honestly and truthfully on our experiences with escorts. Since you apparently do not have a personal experience with Joey Ciccone, your comments again are irrelevant but still damaging nonetheless.

 

>>Why did you do that

>>to me and other escorts here, and how could you then start

>>this thread about love and respect?

>

>i think people should love and respect minorities, that

>doesnt mean everyone should pretend that ugly hookers are

>hot.

 

Do you love and respect all minorities or just the one's you find attractive? What a hypocrite!

 

And I'll save you some trouble when you strike back with your patented vindictiveness. I'm not old (only 38). I'm not a drug fiend. I'm not ugly. I'm not a racist. I'm not a fascist. I'm not a pedophile. But unfortunately I don't drink piss or eat dirty toenails. And alas I am fat. So I guess that makes me unworthy of your love and respect. I'm so crushed.

[Guest Joey Ciccone]

RE: The meaning of klown

 

>Joey Joey Joey...<

 

Hey, your head's giving off an echo.

 

>do we really need to be apprised of what's falling out of your horribly stretched & no longer elastic hole<

 

You just wish you could stretch a hole, pidgeon dick. But since you ask, I've dropped many a dump, a few bottlecaps, some spare change, and yes, the occasional peanut. I'm glad you know your place among the things that might fall out my ass, you shitbreathed peanut munching goon.

[Guest Joey Ciccone]

RE: The meaning of klown

 

>i didnt say any lies about you sir, i only said about what you look like.<

 

You've never even seen my face, you lying bitch.

 

>i think people should love and respect minorities...<

 

You don't think, asshole. You're a discredit to the human race, much less any minority.