Looking for the Next Benjamin Nicholas

[Guest Tristan]

Doug, you need to read the Escort Travel section more often. Actually, I believe it's 70% for BN and 30% promoting Cody #2 NYC, every time Cody posts in the Escort Travel section.

[Rick Munroe]

>By

>this does Cardholder imply that outstanding escorts like

>Benjamin Nicholas, Kristen, Vincent Michaels, Rick Munroe, and

>Steve Kesslar, to name just a few, are “second-hand roses” or

>“faded gypsies”? Give me a fucking break!!

 

In my case, I'm more of a "late bloomer," since I only really started having sex with other guys outside of my relationship a few years ago. I was completely monogamous and faithful to Derek from my teens through most of my twenties, until we decided to open things up and soon after that, started to escort. We've never had our own website and we don't advertise too heavily, because we like to stay "fresh" and real and not risk becoming sexual automatons. While we are, of course, open to new clients and love the excitement of meeting new faces (among other body parts), most of the guys we see are guys who've hired us before.

[Rick Munroe]

>There are many Great Escorts reviewed here that will never

>become "stars" because they do not show their faces in

>pictures

 

Guess again.

[jimbeaux]

RE: Looking for the Next Benjamin Franklin

 

>Why such hostility to a newbie? What's the big deal?

 

Pardon me while I puke.:-(

[LovesYng]

>>There are many Great Escorts reviewed here that will never

>>become "stars" because they do not show their faces in

>>pictures

>

>Guess again.

 

I'm sure your face is just as cute as your ass :9

 

When in doubt I whip it out :+

[Rick Munroe]

>I'm sure your face is just as cute as your ass :9

 

Aww thanks; you know, they really need to make a Hallmark card with that exact sentiment.

 

And funny you should say what you said, because it's a typical thing for me to meet new guys and have them say, with some surprise, "Wow, I didn't know you were so cute!" Maybe it's a common assumption that guys who don't show their faces are probably dogs, but it's really just a matter of discretion, especially when some of these reviews can get quite graphic. I like being able to go out in public without people pointing and saying, "That's the one who moans like a bitch when there's a tongue up his ass." Let them find out for themselves. ;-) I think most clients who take me out in public appreciate that, too. If I were hiring, I certainly would hate to be at a restaurant or the theater and have some guy whisper to his friend, "He's paying $1200 for that overnight 'date' (wink wink)." Not cool!

[Doug69]

>If I were hiring, I certainly would

>hate to be at a restaurant or the theater and have some guy

>whisper to his friend, "He's paying $1200 for that overnight

>'date' (wink wink)." Not cool!

 

That's an interesting point, actually. There are some escorts whose primary goal seems to be self-promotion to the point where they plaster face pics of themselves all over the Internet which make clear what it is that they do for a living.

 

The person who has lent his name to the title of this thread is a perfect example. He seems to strive for fame as a prostitute, and even now has a whole blog - complete with one face pic after the next - detailing his activities.

 

I wonder how that makes clients feel who go out to restaurants or shows or who travel with him. While they are pretending, "God, I have such a cool, young boyfriend," tons of other people are looking at them thinking, mockingly: "oh, look - there's an old guy with that prostitute who brags about demanding $2,000 minimum for a date."

 

I guess some people care about discretion - and dignity - less than others.

[Guest skrubber]

80%? Is that all. Mymath must be getting bad. I thought it was more like 90 or 95%. In either case I profusely apologise for being so predictable to you and will strive to do better in the future.

[carryover123]

I agree that this is an Escort Review site and all factually based knowledgeable reviews should be given consideration. The reviews on the Message Center of Benjamin do not appear to have been written by individuals who have meet Benjamin or have interacted with him in any way. You cannot really review a movie if you have not seen it, and that is why people get upset when BN is attacked. These individuals probably would be upset if other Escorts were attacked and the attack is not justified through a factual well-reasoned review.

 

Since this is a review site I ask you to look at the reviews posted for Benjamin in the Escort Reviews Section. They are all positive reflecting the fun times individuals have experienced with Benjamin. Everyone recommends him and he has not one negative review from those who know him well.

 

BN has been attacked repeatedly on the Message Center, and his response has generally been understanding and taken an approach of doing an even better job for his guys. That says a lot about him. In my opinion I feel he is attacked because he is one of the ten best escorts in the world and is getting a lot of positive attention and reviews. When you are on top, (so to speak), everyone seems to take shots at you.

 

A number of individuals defend Benjamin, and I am one of them. I spent time with him and found him to be a remarkable individual. When he was with me it was fun to be with him. I found his attitude to be one of adventure and he wanted to get to know me better. He was focused on me, not on materials or things for him. At the end of our time I felt Benjamin was more of a friend than a companion.

 

Because of the way Benjamin treats his guys; the things he does for others, his use of web sites, establishing a group site, his playful e-mails, his advice, and his sense of humor, his guys always seem to defend him. Believe me Benjamin is not paying me to defend him. I just want to be sure that he is treated fairly because that he the way he treats me.

[Guest alanm]

Rick and Benjamin are two of the very few escorts who post here frequently, always have something interesting to say and add much to this site. It is a high wire act, naturally one of them will say something to offend someone once in a while. Or, they will attract someone who is a lighting rod of negativity for others like Truth Teller (Rick) or VaHawk (Benjamin).

 

Other first rate escorts like Tristan Waters or LA's Kristian just post once in a while, either way it is good to get another point of view. I prefer Tristan's and Kristian's approach, because sometimes I feel like I do not know enough about those two and need to hire them again. You can never know know too much about Rick or Benjamin, but can get your daily fix without hiring them. Just saying, sometimes less is more, that's all -- know others feel differently.

[Epigonos]

I am sincerely fascinated and somewhat bemused by this thread. I have been hiring escorts now for about two years. During that period I have hired approximately twenty guys only about half of whom I have reviewed. I always insist on having either lunch or dinner with the guys I hire before spending a couple of hours playing around. Two of these guys have traveled with me and neither of them have face pictures posted. Some of the guys with whom I have not traveled have face pictures posted some do not. I use lunches and dinners to become acquainted with the guy I going to play around with. I have found that by connecting in this way the play time is more enjoyable for me. At NO time have I ever believed than anybody seeing the two of us together would assume we were boy friends and frankly I could care less. Now if someone recognizes the guy I’m with, as an escort, and comments to his or her dinner companion “you see that old guy over there he is paying that good looking young stud with him $200.00 an hour or $1,200.00 for the night” I personally could care less and for god sakes it is the truth. I really don’t see how my dignity is demeaned by the truth.

Now I don’t know Benjamin Nicholas and probably won’t – he isn’t my type. But if I were to hire him and we were to go out to a public place then, by damn, I’d better be prepared to have him recognized as an escort as well as having myself recognize for what I am - A JOHN. Let’s be honest people we hire escorts because 1.) we don’t want to be bothered with cruising and/or 2.) we can’t hook up with the kind of guys we want. If we are ashamed of being seen in public with escorts then 1.) we shouldn’t hire them or at the least 2.) we shouldn’t go out in public with them. We and we alone know the amount of discretion our lives require and thus the primary responsibility for maintaining that discretion is ours NOT the escorts.

Furthermore, I don’t understand what is wrong with an escort promoting himself. People in numerous other fields are expected to promote themselves and are admired when they do so successfully. Why should escorts to be the excluded from this – good god people our entire society is build upon self promotion.

The great thing about this site and ones like Men4Rent and RentBoy is that they allow us to find what we are seeking. We can select well known, well reviewed escorts or “relatively” unknown, unreviewed escorts but let’s be honest about the entire process and NOT demean those who are not what we, as individuals, are seeking.

[+ Oliver]

How and Why ...

 

Epigonos –

Yours has to be the most cogent and on-point narrative of how and why we engage in a client/escort relationship that I have read. I totally agree with what you say, especially….

 

>I use lunches and dinners to become acquainted ... by connecting in this way the play time is more enjoyable for me. At NO time have I ever believed that anybody seeing the two of us together would assume we were boy friends and frankly I could care less ... We and we alone know the amount of discretion our lives require and thus the primary responsibility for maintaining that discretion is ours NOT the escorts ... The great thing about this site and ones like Men4Rent and RentBoy is that they allow us to find what we are seeking. We can select well known, well reviewed escorts or “relatively” unknown, unreviewed escorts but let’s be honest about the entire process and NOT demean those who are not what we, as individuals, are seeking.>

 

Thank you, that is exactly how look at this entertaining activity. And BTW, your reviews have a ring of authenticity and candor.

[Guest cardholder]

You nailed it, my friend.

 

I don't understand why this thread degenerated into praise and attacks on Benji. I too like Benji, or have in the past. That is why I asked for recommendations about new up and coming rising star escorts in the "Benji" motif who have not yet hit the big time, rock and roll hall of fame, super star category with all that entails for good and for bad.

 

If it is not too late, I renew my request, and would be grateful for some suggestions.

[Guest cardholder]

>I suspect that's the sort of guy this thread is about. A guy

>who's pleasure on a stick but hasn't hit his stride yet. A guy

>who's "all that" but doesn't really think of it that way.

 

....

 

>It's the timeless and never-ending search for the boy next

>door who takes your breath away precisely because he has no

>clue why he takes your breath away, but he smiles when he sees

>you just the same.

 

You took the words right out of my mouth. I could not have said it better myself!

[Guest cardholder]

>Anyway, Adam4 is on Rentboy and has a shitload of

>reviews...he's in NYC

 

Thanks. I don't see Adam4 in the reviews. What's his name in the reviews?

[Guest cardholder]

>The reviews on the Message Center of Benjamin do not appear to

>have been written by individuals who have meet Benjamin or

>have interacted with him in any way. You cannot really review

>a movie if you have not seen it, and that is why people get

>upset when BN is attacked.

 

Can you review a movie from having seen the Ad or the trailer? I think yes. By the same token, one can easily think well of Benji based on the reviews on the site, but decide on the basis of his blog and the evolution of his posts on the message center that one would prefer a younger, fresher Benji like the one who first started out posting here. That takes nothing away from those who want the mature Benji, but why all the fuss because I asked for escorts like the original Benji? Is it not possible to prefer young Sinatra (George Michael) to old Sinatra (George Michael) without incurring the wrath of the gods?

[Guest cardholder]

>Travis from Dallas is a find. He won't be doing this for

>long I'll bet. He used to be in Colorado. Treat him

>well...he's cool.

 

Now that's exactly the kind of response I was looking for. Thanks for the tip!

 

>Good luck and remember to share what you learn.

 

Let me return the favor and suggest Ryan of Amsterdam (itescort.com)whose reviews have mysteriously disappeared from the review site.

[Vincent_Michael]

Who is the next BN? I think that it does not matter who the next BN is…I say that because no one knows, some might say a particular person is the rising star and yet we just do not know because time is uncertain in what it brings for us all and I have to ask, are there not many stars in many eyes? Different strokes for different folks.

 

As for rates that are off the wall…some of you know what I think.

[ValleyDwellerNorth]

I question the motive of the original question in terms of who will be the new Benjamin Nicholas. Maybe it was 50% honesty and 50% muckraking.

 

However, I feel we shouldn't be looking for a new "anyone" but realize who is here now. Many people love twink type dudes. However, there is something to be said for dark, smart and understated. Vincent Michael, to me, is just that. He is amazingly smart and witty. He has a fantastic web site that is being developed that is like nothing many of us have seen before. Put all of that in the OUTRAGEOUSLY handsome package he is and we get NOT the new Benjamin Nicholas, but the "he was always here but he just wasn't making a lot of loud noise" Vincent Michael.

 

There is room for everyone in the sandbox.

[Guest cardholder]

A number of people have suggested Vincent. I have checked out his web site, but I really don't see much there so it is difficult to judge. However, I never hire an escort who I don't see nude or have to pay to see nude beforehand. I also am not keen on escorts who don't advertise their rates or whether they are top, bottom or versatile.

 

In any case, he is not what I asked for - "the next bright, sweet, cute, cut, blond, twink amazing escort" in the original post. Where's the crime in asking for recommendations for some unsung heros who fit that description who have not yet hit the big time? Can it really be the case that god made Benji and there will never again be another Benji to be hired before he hits super star status?

 

Sometimes, I really don't understand the clients who post here. Why would you want to direct all the work or attention to this one escort, and deny an opportunity to a young and up and coming competitor?

[Rick Munroe]

>Now if someone

>recognizes the guy I’m with, as an escort, ... I personally could care less and

>for god sakes it is the truth. I really don’t see how my

>dignity is demeaned by the truth.

 

I agree 100%. What Doug added in reply to my post was not my original intention; I don't see anything undignified or demeaning about what I do or about what my clients do. When I said, "If I were hiring...," I was putting myself in the place of most of my clients, who happen to be married or closeted or in relationships with other men or who just really want to be discreet for whatever reason. I never pass judgment on anyone's personal choices and I wouldn't want to do anything to compromise their privacy. I think it's great that you are proud to be a client (I'm proud to be an escort!), and I'm sure more than a few of my clients feel the same way, and I respect that a lot.

 

>Let’s be honest people we

>hire escorts because 1.) we don’t want to be bothered with

>cruising and/or 2.) we can’t hook up with the kind of guys we

>want. If we are ashamed of being seen in public with escorts

>then 1.) we shouldn’t hire them or at the least 2.) we

>shouldn’t go out in public with them.

 

Again, my point was not that any of us should feel ashamed of what we do; it's that I value my privacy and that of my clients (if it is an issue for them). That's all. And by the way, you have a great attitude.

[Rick Munroe]

Personally, I'm just glad that nobody's asking who the next Rick Munroe is. I guess that means that, as Shirley Maclaine sang in Postcards From The Edge, "I'm Still Here."

 

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[ValleyDwellerNorth]

>Personally, I'm just glad that nobody's asking who the next

>Rick Munroe is.

 

There could never, ever be a replacement for you. HOWEVER, just in case, we always have to be prepared and have someone ready to fill your shoes.

 

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[ValleyDwellerNorth]

>don't see nude or have to pay to see nude beforehand. I also

>am not keen on escorts who don't advertise their rates or

>whether they are top, bottom or versatile.

 

His reviews are quite detailed.

 

>In any case, he is not what I asked for - "the next bright,

>sweet, cute, cut, blond, twink amazing escort" in the original

>post. Where's the crime in asking for recommendations for

>some unsung heros who fit that description who have not yet

>hit the big time?

 

When I look at the following first-given definition of hero, In mythology and legend, a man, often of divine ancestry, who is endowed with great courage and strength, celebrated for his bold exploits, and favored by the gods., I have to wonder if you will be disappointed in your search. There are plenty of mortals that fit the bill right here.

 

>Can it really be the case that god made

>Benji and there will never again be another Benji to be hired

>before he hits super star status?

 

Was it a bad head trauma you suffered or are you tripping on some bad acid. Come back to us!

 

>Sometimes, I really don't understand the clients who post

>here. Why would you want to direct all the work or attention

>to this one escort, and deny an opportunity to a young and up

>and coming competitor?

 

I don't believe no one is denying anyone anything. In the immortal worlds of my favorite Klingon warrior General Martok, "Hab SoSlI' Quch!".

[Donnie]

>As for rates that are off the wall…some of you know what I

>think.

 

Yes Vinnie we know that your against escorts raising their rates just because they can. Is that why you raised your hourly rate from $200 to $250 in October when your popularity started to rise? LOL!!