Paying In Advance

[topcat]

A well-reviewed escort in San Francisco has agreed to a 3day booking in a month's time.....but is asking for an advance payment of 30%

 

I have never paid before the event, so I'm sceptical.

 

But I'd like to know what experience others have and what others think?

[LovesYng]

>A well-reviewed escort in San Francisco has agreed to a 3day

>booking in a month's time.....but is asking for an advance

>payment of 30%

>

>I have never paid before the event, so I'm sceptical.

>

>But I'd like to know what experience others have and what

>others think?

 

I had also booked escorts like that before, I took a chance and paid one third up front all three times plus paid for the air fare. I can truly say I did not get beat on the money, they were worth every dime I spent. One of them I even made come from the US to London and that was a really big chance. I also checked them out very well before I did it. I know some reviews in here are bull shit but I think you can tell what ones they are. Wish you all the luck and let us know how it went. :+

[guyinsf]

I don't have the disposable income to be in your predicament, but I suggest turning the question around: Is it reasonable for an escort to agree to spend 3 days with someone he's never met and NOT receive a deposit up front? You stand to lose 30% of his fee if he is a phony, and then you can post a negative review for someone who apparently has a good track record; he stands to lose potentially thousands of dollars if you don't pay anything up front and then flake out on him at the last minute (or were just playing games and never intended to follow through anyway). And if he is traveling to you on his own dime (such as a long drive), he stands to waste time and gas money. If the booking doesn't go through, he has no one to review.

 

I think that if I did have the money to arrange such a trip, I would do it with someone I already had met; that way we would both have a basis to trust one another. Second best, as you are doing, is selecting someone with a history of good reviews (presumably not all first time reviewers).

[Guest fukamarine]

>A well-reviewed escort in San Francisco has agreed to a 3day

>booking in a month's time.....but is asking for an advance

>payment of 30%

 

Under the circumstances, I think this is reasonable. He would have a problem if he penciled in 3 days for you and you backed out at the last minute as it is unlikely he could fill that space on short notice. By having a 30% deposit up front his exposure is limited. And if he was intending to scam you, he would probably be asking for more that 30$ - more like 50 to 100%

 

So go ahead and fwd him the money - I think it's unlikely that you'll regret it.

 

fukamarine

[handyandy]

I agree with guy and fuk. It's reasonable for him to ask for a deposit up front on a long/expensive appointment, just like other things do. He has to protect himself against last-minute cancellations, guys who take the service and then say they can't pay, hackers who just want to screw up his schedule and have no intention of meeting him, etc.

If you checked him out and he has a good track record, he's probably honest. You said he is well-reviewed, so go for it. If he was a scam artist it would have shown up by now. I wouldn't pay 100% up front, but a token like 30% is very reasonable.

[phage]

I’m assuming that you have never seen this guy before. In which case, it seems perfectly reasonable of him to ask for a portion of the fee up front to demonstrate that you are serious. You know much more about him than he knows about you at this point, and I can only imagine how often potential clients turn out to be flakes.

 

I also assume that you have read the ‘Jason Tyler’ threads and know to hold the balance of the payment until the end of the date. If he shows up and asks for the rest of his money, you need to be very cautious.

 

Thirty percent of a three-day appointment is not small change, but if I were you, I’d be much more concerned about spending that amount of time with a total stranger. If you don’t click, it could be the longest three days of your life!

[Guest Chazzz69]

This past summer I hired an escort from San Francisco for a four day stay here in DC. I did pay a deposit and advanced travel money. Everything went just fine. I had seen him twice before on business trips and "auditioned" him before making the final decision to fly him out. We had a great time. I am considering plans to bring this guy back to DC some time in the spring.

 

Make sure you spell out the details and be up front also trust your gut on whether the two of you will be compatible for an extended trip.

 

Chazzz69

[Guest]

There have been many, many stories of escorts taking the money and not performing, including some well-regarded on this site. Certainly, if you're flying him anywhere, then the fact that you've bought his ticket should be enough of an indication you're serious. I personally have never and will never give more than a token amount in addition to the air fare (i.e. to cover transportation to the airport or long-term parking). If you're coming to SF and want to reserve him for three days while you're in the area, then the escort is probably not risking much more than one or two hourly appointments, even if you bail at the last minute.

I would not send more than one or two times his hourly fee. Even in the "worst-case scenario" for the escort, if you don't show up, he still gets money for doing nothing, and he's not out any money out of pocket (since he would be in town anyways).

[guyinsf]

Unicorn:

 

While I generally would never pay in advance either, I am having difficulty with your logic. First you say the escort would likely only lose one or two 1-hour bookings if the client bailed out at the last minute. Then you close by saying the escort wouldn't lose any money. Perhaps by that last statement you meant money he already HAD in his pocket, but I think it's reasonable to include income lost due to his declining other bookings.

 

I also don't think it's fair to say that he would only lose 1 or 2 hours' worth of wages. If this guy is popular for doing overnighters or longer bookings, he very well could lose 3 nights' worth of wages because he turned down other clients. Yes, he could likely make up a couple of hours worth of those fees if he then started aggressively marketing his last-minute availability that weekend, but (a) this isn't the way all escorts work and (b) that means he is working more than 1-2 hours for 1-2 hours of his fee.

 

I guess my position that the escort should get something in advance for a 3-day booking with a stranger is based on a few experiences I've had as a client where an escort made an appointment with me and then never showed up (flakiness can happen both ways). These were always with "unknown" escorts (i.e., not reviewed escorts), so the guys in question may have not even been escorts but just guys who were playing games.

 

I would like to hear from more clients who have hired escorts they had not previously met for extended bookings. Did you pay anything in advance? If so, what percentage? It really seems to me that a 30% advance under these circumstances is reasonable, and I agree with what someone else posted above: if he was really just trying to hustle you, he'd likely be asking for more than 30%.

[+ glutes]

Like the stock market,

' only risk what you can afford to loose '

[marc anthony]

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>

>I would like to hear from more clients who have hired

>escorts they had not previously met for extended bookings.

>Did you pay anything in advance? If so, what percentage?

>It really seems to me that a 30% advance under these

>circumstances is reasonable, and I agree with what someone

>else posted above: if he was really just trying to hustle

>you, he'd likely be asking for more than 30%.

 

As someone who has hired many escorts for extended bookings, I think the crux to this whole matter the qualifier listed above.... "clients who have have hired escorts THEY HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY MET for extended bookings."

 

Someone else pointed this out earlier in the thread. WORSE than being out the money is being somewhere for 3 days with someone you are not compatible with. Sex will occupy 2-3 hours of a 24 hour day, times 3 days. The rest of the time will be interminable, if the only thing you have in common is that you find him sexually attractive.

 

Extended visits are great. But you have to know that you will have fun out of the sack as well for them to be worth it. Overnights are great ways to have longer visits with people whom you have never met but find very sexually attractive. And the overnight will give you an opportunity to have all the sex you want and get a better understanding of the person you are hiring.

 

I would suggest NOT having an extended visit, but a maximum of an overnight, for an escort you have never met. Once you have met them, you will develop and understanding of whether or not a week with somewhere with that person is a reasonable thing. And the byproduct of this understanding will be some degree of trust, which will make the question of an advance deposit moot.

 

But if you do insist on this extended visit, then it is both common and reasonable for the escort to want a percentage as a deposit.

[Guest]

I have probably hired at least 50 escorts through the years. I have gotten to know a good percentage of them socially. I can tell you for certain that overnight hires are quite rare. It certainly never happens that three separate clients would hire an escort overnight in sequence. With the exception of a very few extremely popular escorts, such as Michael Vincenzo, rarely do escorts every get the full daily fees which they advertize. They're usually more starting points for negotiation. At least 80% of hires are hourly, and most escorts are lucky to average seven hires a week (and that's if they'll take two jobs a day when the opportunity arises).

In addition, most hiring decisions (especially the most serious ones) are made within 48 hours. In fact, I've had many escorts refuse to set something up with me unless I call the the day before or even the same day, even when I'm coming from out-of-town or from overseas.

That being said, I think the escort in question from the original posting would in all liklihood lose anywhere from 0 to 3 hourly hires, although it's unlikely he'd lose more than one, should the client cancel at the last minute.

On the other hand, stories abound about escorts who accept a deposit, then bail and don't return it. In this case, the client is really out of money, and can do little but write to this site to complain.

As an aside, I think it's generally a bad idea to make a long-term hiring commitment unless you've hired the escort for an hour before-hand. I would personally advise paying the airfare for someone you knew rather than make a commitment to someone you haven't met. Another thing you could do is tell the escort that you'll hire him for an hour, and that if you "click," you'll hire him for a 3-day stint if he's still available.

[guyinsf]

Usually a black-and-white world view isn't accurate.

 

It is interesting that you presume to know what all escorts' experiences are based on the 50 or so you've hired and those with whom you've become socially acquainted. Let me put forth this to ponder: Is it possible that you may be interested in a particular sort of experience when hiring escorts (shorter appointments) so the escorts you hire generally have that experience? I don't know you; I'm just asking.

 

As to it "never" being the case that an escort would have 3 different overnight bookings back to back, I know that proclamation isn't accurate. There are escorts for whom a large chunk of their business is overnight appointments. I happen to be a regular client of one. Based on discussions in order to schedule appointments, I know that he regularly has sequential overnight bookings. I have also heard him talk about other escorts who have a significant repeat-client base who book overnight (and longer) appointments.

 

I am not usually in the position of defending an escort who wants money up front, but there are circumstances where it seems warranted to me. The attitude that the escort is likely to lose "0-3" hours' worth of his fee, at most, is one reason why I think a deposit is warranted in a case such as this. A potential client who thinks an escort's time is of such little value seems more likely to cancel at the last minute with little regard to the impact on the escort.

[Guest]

>It is interesting that you presume to know what all escorts'

>experiences are based on the 50 or so you've hired and those

>with whom you've become socially acquainted. Let me put

>forth this to ponder: Is it possible that you may be

>interested in a particular sort of experience when hiring

>escorts (shorter appointments) so the escorts you hire

>generally have that experience? I don't know you; I'm just

>asking.

>

>As to it "never" being the case that an escort would have 3

>different overnight bookings back to back, I know that

>proclamation isn't accurate. There are escorts for whom a

>large chunk of their business is overnight appointments.

 

I don't base my hiring decisions on what kind of appointments the escort prefers (unless, of course, he states that he'll only do long-term hires), so my escort encounters should be random in that sense. I've met too many escort through the years to believe that any escort has overnights (one night) as a significant percentage of his hires. I've hired them all from famous porn stars, "male4malescort celebs," strip joint dancers, to the not-so-famous. Having three separate back-to-back overnight hires would be as likely to me as winning the lottery twice (well, I guess it did happen to that plumber in England, but it's pretty rare!).