WATCH OUT CHICAGO: KYLE MATTHEWS REINVENTS HIMSELF AS DARRIN POWERS

[Like2Hire]

imagine that! in gay.com chat, where kyle always hangs, he appears today as "Gay.com Escort of the Year" with the same link with an old/new name DARRIN POWERS, Chicago's very own has-been pornstar on his way to a comeback. check it out: http://www.topmaleescort.com/

 

the poor thing..............

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Like2,

 

Appreciate the heads-up... but I don't think I'll bother to check it out... I'll let sleeping dogs lie.

[Guest SNAPPER]

Thanks for the information, i'm glad to see he's back with class!

He is truly one hot stud,everyone should see his great site....[http://www.topmaleescort.com]

[Guest Esc_Tracker]

(sigh)

 

After his fiasco of self-destruction on this board, reinvention was pretty well the only alternative left to Kyle, other than leaving the biz. I am all in favour of reform and self improvement, but Kyle still just doesn't seem to get it, as the message above indicates. Snapper's only interventions on this board have been to boost Kyle (now Darrin) uncritically and without coroborating detail. His messages are simply not credible.

 

Now I have never met Kyle, and never will as I don't travel to Chicago and I don't find his pics appealing (personal taste, Kyle, no offence intended). But no one in his right mind who has read Kyle's posts (and I assume Snapper has) would even consider hiring him unless he was already a friend. More likely, Snapper is just one of Kyle's many aliases.

 

To Kyle:

 

The purpose of this board is not to trash escorts. We know there are fake reviews here, both good and bad. We are less naive than you seem to assume and pay careful attention to the language used, description of the event, and frequency and range of postings of the reviewers to get the true picture. No matter how well reviewed an escort is, however, one fake positive review is more damning than a genuine negative one.

 

A negative might be a matter of personal chemistry that might not apply in my own encounter with an escort. It can be worked around. The escort's response is also critical. If the escort comes back with grace and gives his side of the story without dissing the dissatisfied customer, he comes off as a pleasant guy I might want to spend some time with. If he responds with fire and venom, I know to stay clear from him.

 

A fake "positive" review is deadly, however. It implies that the escort lies and misrepresents himself. The same applies with postings like Snapper's, whether or not it is by you. I'll offer you a concrete example that does not involve you. Franck, a Paris-based escort, has some good reviews and no bad ones (that I can remember). Some, if not most, of his good reviews are clearly genuine. No one has been sufficiently dissatisfied to write a bad one. But I will never hire him because some of the positive reviews are clearly fakes, and he has been caught boosting himself through aliases on this message board. QED. He may be a nice guy and a good lay, but he is a liar and I could never trust him.

 

A genuine reinvention of yourself involves a change of behaviour, not just a change of name. You aren't bad looking, and I am sure you *could* be a highly successful escort. You just don't seem to realize that your behaviour, not what people say about you on this site, is the main obstacle to this success.

 

Let's just set this Snapper post aside. Suck in that gut, look at life with new confidence, and don't give anyone cause to write a bad review. In time (don't try to rush things with fake reviews), good reviews will start to come in and your career may see the success you feel it deserves.

 

In the meanwhile, if someone does write in a bad review, don't argue. If the client had a bad time, he had a bad time, whether it's your fault or his. Just assume it was the result of a genuine misunderstanding and describe the encounter as *you* saw it. Then let the reader judge, keeping in mind that the reader is a *client* and not an escort and doesn't want to hear another client being dissed. He doesn't want to know who was right and who was wrong. He wants to know why the client's unhappy experience (whether real or imagined) will not happen to him.

 

Esc-Tracker

[Guest LG320126]

Bravo, Esc-Tracker. Very nicely put!

[Guest SNAPPER]

I have read all the posts on this subject, and frankly you can kiss my ass.I was an avid reader of this site for the last year,submitted several reviews and used this as a guide to hire several escorts.I have not had the pleasure to hire Kyle/Darrin, but will so in the future.That is my choice,and I am using this message board to post my opinion..that is what a message board is.So Mr. esc-tracker you have no right to tell people to "put my opinion to the side" Let everyone make up there own mind and read all peoples perspectives on this matter.You are not the King HooVille and cannot dictate what peoplecan and cannot read.

I have talked to several escorts that have been bashed on this site for one reason or another.Many times it is forth comming...but there is always that disgruntled client who feels that they can break an escort by submitting a bogus bad review,Every escort should have the right to....

A)respond to the site with a letter to be printed word for word with no editing,and-or

B)respond to the client directly with help from Hoo Boy,and-or

C)choose not to be on associated with this site at all..

So this is my opinion, and you can take it for what its worth.......NOTHING>cause Hoo Boy will still follow his un-ethical ways!

[Guest DVS]

LAST EDITED ON Apr-24-01 AT 10:06AM (EST)[p]It's a shame this topic keeps coming up. Now the people writing post are assumed to fake as well! Jeez what will we come up with next.

 

This is still a good board no matter what a few may say. I think the truely smart people are the ones not posting but just taking in the info.

 

I do agree we are clients of the escorts and we do not want to be dissed on the message board but that is a 2 way street we need to tread carefully with our reviews and keep them factual and to the point. The readers can make their assumptions and opinions from our reviews.

 

As for the ass kissing you do seem to exhibit behavior we have seen here before by certain other individuals. What's with that?

[Guest SNAPPER]

Well I am sorry if you were offended by that, I dont appreciate being called a fake.I am a regular guy who uses this site like everyone else.I have never posted anything on this board untill yesterday,and with these responses you are right in saying the smart ones dont ever post...wish I got that advice from you about 24 hours ago..... :-)

[Bilbo]

LAST EDITED ON Apr-24-01 AT 04:29PM (EST)[p]I think that we all do sometimes jump down a newbies throat a little fast when he takes sides perhaps a little too quickly in a controversy. I personally have been sending private messages when I can to welcome any newbies that I thought deserved encouragement. That may sound a little conceited to some. Well, I am guilty of being a bit conceited. And I am sure that I am not omnipresent and there are some perfectly fine youngsters that haven't heard from me. Oops. I am difinitely not in favor of anyone just lurking forever. But then, I can't really understand people who just sun beside the pool and never get wet, either.

 

As an actor, I am with the famous movie star (sorry I can't remember which one) who said, "I don't care what they say about me so long as they spell my name correctly." And a wonderful old drag queen once told me "Don't be upset when they are talking about you. Be upset when they stop talking about you." Asking for publicity, either positive or negative, to be removed is ridiculous, unless you think someone has gotten too explicit and could get you arrested.

 

And, hey, now I'm online, professionally. Please try out

http://rainbowprod.com/bilbo

[Guest DVS]

Snapper thanks for the reply! It is a pleasure to deal with intelligent people who are non judgemental but factual.

 

It only stands to reason for everyone to know we are not all bad and we do try to make this site work better for all.

 

After all hooboy is just one person and he is human! Let's give him a hand once in a while. Obviously we find some use of these posts or we wouldn't be here reading them.

 

Well happy escort catching to all! :-)

[Guest Esc_Tracker]

>I have read all the posts

>on this subject, and frankly

>you can kiss my ass.

 

I don't want to get into controvercies about whether you are real or not. It doesn't matter to the point I was trying to make. I will note that your use of language as demonstrated above is vintage Kyle, however. So if you are not Kyle, or one of his buddies, perhaps the two of you would get along quite well. ;-)

 

>I was an avid reader of

>this site for the last

>year,submitted several reviews and used

>this as a guide to

>hire several escorts.I have not

>had the pleasure to hire

>Kyle/Darrin, but will so in

>the future.

 

OK, I am sure we will all be interested in finding out how it goes. Just keep in mind that if you come back stating that he "sends you to Heaven" you are going to encounter a lot of agnostics. Kyle/Darrin has a lot to live down before we can take him seriously again.

 

>That is my choice,and

>I am using this message

>board to post my opinion..that

>is what a message board

>is. So Mr. esc-tracker you have

>no right to tell people

>to "put my opinion to

>the side" Let everyone make

>up there own mind and

>read all peoples perspectives on

>this matter.You are not the

>King HooVille and cannot dictate

>what peoplecan and cannot read.

 

I think you misinterpretted my remark. It was addressed to Kyle, not to you (if you are not Kyle) or any of the other readers. I think *all* postings, including yours, should be read carefully and never dismissed out of hand.

 

>I have talked to several escorts

>that have been bashed on

>this site for one reason

>or another.

 

Here I have a problem. Very few escorts (perhaps a dozen) have been "bashed" on this site. Getting a bad review is not getting "bashed", as almost all escorts reviewed here will agree. How is it then that you have heard from, or communicated with, a representative sampling of the few who have been "bashed". Do you collect them? I have never even had contact with one (except through this message board), and I communicate with a variety of escorts frequently.

 

>Many times it is

>forth comming...but there is always

>that disgruntled client who feels

>that they can break an

>escort by submitting a bogus

>bad review,

 

This is why I warned about fake negative reviews. They exist.

 

>Every escort should have

>the right to....

>A)respond to the site with a

>letter to be printed

>word for word with

>no editing,

 

Sorry, but would you insist that HooBoy print the letter "with no editing" if it included your real name, address and other personal info? This is where the argument between Kyle and HooBoy started. A reviewer sent in a negative review and gave Kyle's personal home number. HooBoy printed it without realizing it and, if I understand matters properly, removed the phone number as soon as Kyle complained. Kyle wanted more, however. He wanted the whole review removed. More on that below.

 

>and-or

>B)respond to the client directly with

>help from Hoo Boy,

 

That sounds reasonable to me.

 

>and-or

>C)choose not to be on associated

>with this site at all..

 

No, that will not do. The primary purpose of this site is to help prospective clients weed out dangerous, flaky, ripoff artists. These presumably get bad reviews and would prefer not to be "associated with this site". For the site to be useful to us, the escorts should not be able to decide whether to figure here or not. If they don't want to, they can quit advertizing as escorts, and HooBoy will presumably remove their reviews.

 

>So this is my opinion, and you can take it for what its worth.......NOTHING>cause Hoo Boy will still follow his un-ethical ways!

 

(You *really* do sound like Kyle) If you think this site is run un-ethically, why do you participate? I am not saying that everything written here is gospel or that HooBoy does not make mistakes. He does, like we all do (though I accord him the status of a visionary). And we all have to learn to interpret the evidence offered here intelligently and critically. This site is not *for* escorts. It's *about* escorts. Escorts who cannot deal with criticism simply do not have the market value of those who can. It's a hard truth, but who is paying after all, the client or the escort?

 

Regards,

 

Esc-Tracker

[Guest jjo]

At the risk of starting another round of firestorms, SNAPPER's comments look suspiciously similar to none other than Kyle's own diatribes. Even his compliments to Kyle/Darren's reinvention are eerily the same as the tag lines from Kyle/Darren's website.

[Guest SNAPPER]

The whole idea that I am Kyle Mathews posting for the purpose of furthering this thread is rediculous.

I e-mailed Kyle to ask him about this and he was completely unaware that this thread even existed. Hooboy has apparently scrambled his password and he can no longer post anything on here. Kyle tells me that the name change is a career move based on his return to the gay porn business which he is doing at this time. In order for him to market his talents as the porn actor that he is, he must use his former name in the industry to regain recognition. There is one other benefit of the name change, yes, and it is that Hooboy doesn't have any reviews for Darrin Powers on his site. If you ever see a review for Darrin Powers on the male4 male review site, it wouls be completely unsolicited by Kyle as he wants nothing to do with this site any longer as indicated in his prior postings. Kyle is trying to be the bigger man by putting an end to this ongoing battle in which nobody can win, according to him. If you look through the whole thread, you will notice that there are no posts from Kyle regarding the matter for a long time. Doesn't it make sense that he is trying to end the conflict that was just going too far out of control?

I asked him why he took the picture of Hooboy off his site and he told me that it was because he really didn't want to cause him any personal harm and that two wrongs do not make a right. Kyle says that he has no intention of bringing any harm to Hooboy, even though he knows the guys real name, address, and unlisted unlisted phone numbers. He wants to end this dispute and it looks like hooboy want to do the same, since he took Kyle's contact information off of the review page.

Escorting is a career for Kyle, just like any career for anyone else. Any professional in any business would not appreciate having his home phone number posted on the internet with his picture along with cruel lies said about him like that his teeth were stained, or his endowment was smaller than it was. It's akin to telling clients of a salesman is an alcoholic who beats his wife, when he is unmarried and never touched a drop of alcohol.

It only takes one look at Kyle's wonderful web site to see that he has perfect teeth and anyone who has seen the pics of his cock he had posted before can easily tell that it is atleast 8 inches.

Kyle has shared with me the incredible personal crisis he has suffered in the last year and I think that his response is a reflection of that pain he feels. After talking to him online for a while it is easy to see that he is really a nice guy. He tells me that his business is still as strong as ever and that he is writing for a few publications and will be at the adult video awards in Chicago on May 26th to promote his return to porn. Anyone who would not consider hiring Kyle based solely on what they read on the male4male site is clearly one sided and not worthy of his time to begin with. Hooboy is not Judge Judy. The male4male site is obviously very innacurate when anyone can just post whatever they want about anyone and he can't verify the source. How would clients like it if there was a site designed to review cients with the same unethical standards. As a client, I wouldn't like it one bit.

I could understand if Kyle was accused of stealing or beating up a client, but stained teeth? Come on! Did that really warrant publishing with Kyle's home number? I don't think so. And as for publishing personal letters that he wrote to Hooboy, well that was just plain wrong. Now we are all allowed to talk about Kyle on this message board and he can't even access what we are saying or reply to our posts. You can say what you want, but I for one, stand behind Kyle 100% and I will be securing time with him sometime in the near future. If you have anything to say to Kyle why don't you just say it to him personally instead of bashing him on this message board. It takes more guts to talk to him and share your opinions than it does to post them here without him knowing about it.

Also, how do we know that every negative reply to Kyle on this board isn't written by Hooboy himself? One thing we know for sure is that he has the power to put anything he wants on this message board to make himself sound better.

[Guest curious2000]

LOL, oh c'mon. Now if that last rambling stream of histrionics doesn't prove that Kyle/Derren/Snapper are the same guy, nothing will. Give it a rest "K.D.S." Or will you now invent a 4th persona to vent your pathetic inability to accept rejection from this board and your demise as a career as an escort. To quote a line from a movie: " it's over Johnney"

[Guest Esc_Tracker]

OK Curious2000, there is no reason to be unkind. Yes, I too am now firmly convinced that Snapper is Kyle/Darrin. Those runon paragraphs are a dead give away. But if he really has been scrambled, this is the only way he can access the site. At least he is offering his point of view with a minimum of bitterness.

 

Kyle, Snapper, Darrin..., whoever you are. I for one am impressed by the fact that your tone is becoming more moderate and that you are willing to put this silly dispute behind you. If I can paraphrase from Nietzsche: "What does not kill you makes you strong." Sometimes life's experiences are painful, but we can still learn from them.

 

I have great admiration for escorts, and not just because I hire them. I would never have the guts to be continually offering myself up in this way for the rejection or approval of others. My ego would never be able to stand the strain. To that extent at least (and quoting Kipling), "You are a better man than I."

 

Please accept our assurances that HooBoy never meant to post your home number. And if that reviewer really lied with the aim of trashing you, please accept my sympathies and most probably those of many others as well. I wish you the best in your new ventures, and hope to hear nothing but good things about you from now on. :-)

 

Esc-Tracker (who is feeling particularly erudite tonight)

[Guest SNAPPER]

Dear esc_tracker

Thankyou for your kind words.I will pass the message on to Kyle.

[Guest shadow]

>The whole idea that I am

>Kyle Mathews posting for the

>purpose of furthering this thread

>is rediculous.

>I e-mailed Kyle to ask him

>about this and he was

>completely unaware that this thread

>even existed. Hooboy has apparently

>scrambled his password and he

>can no longer post anything

>on here. Kyle tells

>me that the name change

>is a career move based

>on his return to the

>gay porn business which he

>is doing at this time.

> In order for him

>to market his talents as

>the porn actor that he

>is, he must use his

>former name in the industry

>to regain recognition. There

>is one other benefit of

>the name change, yes, and

>it is that Hooboy doesn't

>have any reviews for Darrin

>Powers on his site.

>If you ever see a

>review for Darrin Powers on

>the male4 male review site,

>it wouls be completely unsolicited

>by Kyle as he wants

>nothing to do with this

>site any longer as indicated

>in his prior postings.

>Kyle is trying to be

>the bigger man by putting

>an end to this ongoing

>battle in which nobody can

>win, according to him.

>If you look through the

>whole thread, you will notice

>that there are no posts

>from Kyle regarding the matter

>for a long time.

>Doesn't it make sense that

>he is trying to end

>the conflict that was just

>going too far out of

>control?

>I asked him why he took

>the picture of Hooboy off

>his site and he told

>me that it was because

>he really didn't want to

>cause him any personal harm

>and that two wrongs do

>not make a right.

>Kyle says that he has

>no intention of bringing any

>harm to Hooboy, even though

>he knows the guys real

>name, address, and unlisted unlisted

>phone numbers. He wants

>to end this dispute and

>it looks like hooboy want

>to do the same, since

>he took Kyle's contact information

>off of the review page.

>

>Escorting is a career for Kyle,

>just like any career for

>anyone else. Any professional

>in any business would not

>appreciate having his home phone

>number posted on the internet

>with his picture along with

>cruel lies said about him

>like that his teeth were

>stained, or his endowment was

>smaller than it was.

>It's akin to telling clients

>of a salesman is an

>alcoholic who beats his wife,

>when he is unmarried and

>never touched a drop of

>alcohol.

>It only takes one look at

>Kyle's wonderful web site to

>see that he has perfect

>teeth and anyone who has

>seen the pics of his

>cock he had posted before

>can easily tell that it

>is atleast 8 inches.

>Kyle has shared with me the

>incredible personal crisis he has

>suffered in the last year

>and I think that his

>response is a reflection of

>that pain he feels.

>After talking to him online

>for a while it is

>easy to see that he

>is really a nice guy.

> He tells me that

>his business is still as

>strong as ever and that

>he is writing for a

>few publications and will be

>at the adult video awards

>in Chicago on May 26th

>to promote his return to

>porn. Anyone who would

>not consider hiring Kyle based

>solely on what they read

>on the male4male site is

>clearly one sided and not

>worthy of his time to

>begin with. Hooboy is

>not Judge Judy. The

>male4male site is obviously very

>innacurate when anyone can just

>post whatever they want about

>anyone and he can't verify

>the source. How would

>clients like it if there

>was a site designed to

>review cients with the same

>unethical standards. As a

>client, I wouldn't like it

>one bit.

>I could understand if Kyle was

>accused of stealing or beating

>up a client, but stained

>teeth? Come on!

>Did that really warrant publishing

>with Kyle's home number?

>I don't think so.

>And as for publishing personal

>letters that he wrote to

>Hooboy, well that was just

>plain wrong. Now we

>are all allowed to talk

>about Kyle on this message

>board and he can't even

>access what we are saying

>or reply to our posts.

> You can say what

>you want, but I for

>one, stand behind Kyle 100%

>and I will be securing

>time with him sometime in

>the near future. If

>you have anything to say

>to Kyle why don't you

>just say it to him

>personally instead of bashing him

>on this message board.

>It takes more guts to

>talk to him and share

>your opinions than it does

>to post them here without

>him knowing about it.

>Also, how do we know that

>every negative reply to Kyle

>on this board isn't written

>by Hooboy himself? One

>thing we know for sure

>is that he has the

>power to put anything he

>wants on this message board

>to make himself sound better.

>

 

 

Are there cliff notes to this?

[Guest made4fun]

>coming up. Now the people

>writing post are assumed to

>fake as well! Jeez what

 

not assumed. only when there is a reson to think it is fake. like they dont ad up and they make things up.

[Guest made4fun]

u must be another one. u said just before in number 5 u submitted severl reviews but the number of reviews from you is 0. zearo. zilch. just like DVS.

u are probabaly realy kyle.

[Guest DVS]

Last message to you. I am not kyle never met him or hired him or any of his alias either.

 

sorry to disappoint you. maybe later after i have made as many posts as you we can talk, since you won't believe a word I say anyways until I have your approval.

 

Well not looking to prove or disprove so this is my last post on this thread.

 

P.S. Maybe anyone who has an opinion or thought on this matter is kyle? It appears if you read the post here that is the general concession!

[Guest made4fun]

their u go again. u try to twist this into something else and to make it look like i am parranoid.

THAT MESAGE WAS NOT TO YOU. THAT MESAGE WAS TO SNAPPER. u see it says another one. u see it says in number 5. u see it says just like DVS. how can that be to you.

that is to SNAPPER and he says he wrote reviews too like u and he doesnt have any either.

and he is the one that is probaby kyle.

and dont tell me i put the mesage in the wrong place i clicked on SNAPERs mesage and this is where it came in and you can see in the list of mesages its in the right place. the one to u is the NEXT one so U got it mixed up not me.

[Guest made4fun]

>sorry to disappoint you. maybe later

>after i have made as

>many posts as you we

>can talk, since you won't

>believe a word I say

>anyways until I have your

>approval.

 

u dont have to make lots of posts u just have to tell the truth. and NAME ONE REVIEW so everybody can see if u are credable or if U R DVS.

[Guest LG320126]

Can we all just get along? Please let this die the same as Kyle did.