Cdog123 Posted September 7, 2024 Posted September 7, 2024 I’m curious about masseurs who are available in your city, but are only around for a limited time. Do they on average offer different services because of their limited availability?
Capitano Posted September 7, 2024 Posted September 7, 2024 (edited) They tend to milk local markets for what they are worth and then move on IMHO. Unless there is fraud or some other problem, both sides in any exchange get more than their "reservation utility." The masseur gets more than the minimum price at which he would be indifferent between doing the massage and not doing it. The client gets a massage that he values more than the money he pays for it, so both sides get some "surplus." As the masseur charges more, he appropriates more surplus than the client, eventually getting close to the reservation utility of most clients in an area. Local masseurs who don't travel, or those who repeatedly serve regional markets around them tend to establish repeat clients by leaving enough value on the table for them, that is, providing good experiences at moderate prices (large client surplus). Traveling masseurs that go all over the country usually don't care. They TEND TO (not all of them do this, of course) extract as much as possible in the short run. Because most clients feel that they didn't get something enticing worth going back for, the masseur eventually has to move on to a new market. That's why they are usually a bad deal, and why I hire them ONLY if I see stellar reviews here. PS It gets worse if they think of themselves as "models" and do this to support themselves while pursuing that other career that usually never materializes. Edited September 7, 2024 by Capitano Marc in Calif and + Drew Collins 2
Cdog123 Posted September 8, 2024 Author Posted September 8, 2024 Is it appropriate to ask a visiting masseur if he offers sensual massage? Moke and Necks 2
Necks Posted September 8, 2024 Posted September 8, 2024 17 hours ago, Cdog123 said: Is it appropriate to ask a visiting masseur if he offers sensual massage? Yes. It's expected for that to be asked. If you don't ask, the masseur will most likely ask you "What kind of massage are you looking for?". You can either request for a therapeutic massage and then talk about sensual extras later, or you can request for a sensual massage from the beginning. Arranging a sensual massage is usually the best experience if that's what you're ultimately looking for. It allows the masseur to incorporate sensual elements throughout the entirety of the massage. In my personal experiences, sensual massages can escalate into an erotic experience very easily. Sometimes the masseur will ask for more money afterwards. Sometimes they ask for no more and include it with the sensual price. If you want sensual and possibly more, always try to arrange a sensual from the start. Don't play coy with therapeutic if that's not what you're truly looking for. Capitano and Lotus-eater 2
Simon Suraci Posted September 8, 2024 Posted September 8, 2024 I travel for parts of the year. I charge the same as I do at home and offer the same services. This is a common assumption that masseurs charge more or offer less, but only sometimes true of traveling providers. I make a profit by doing more volume, on average, when traveling than I do in my local market. The scarcity of how long I am staying in a given city creates a sense of urgency which motivates clients to book me knowing they have only a short window to see me. This urgency fills up my schedule and drives revenue. It’s a lot of work, by the way. It’s exhausting. I test a new market by staying for a few days, occasionally only one day, maybe a week if I’m willing to risk a big loss, just to see how much demand there is for my services. I return to places where I stay the most busy and skip places proving to be less busy. I also factor in my expenses (including the largest of those: accommodations) and offset my revenue to compare net income apples to apples in different markets. That bottom line comparison drives my travel decisions. I’m unlikely to visit Manhattan, Chicago, LA, or other large cities for that reason. I would basically have to work for less net profit than I earn in my local market. Since I’m unwilling to increase prices as some form of tax for an expensive local rental market, it makes little business sense for me to visit those places. My long game is to develop repeat client relationships in the markets I do the best in, and keep visiting those as much as I can without neglecting my local client base too much. By focusing on delivering quality service, I’m investing in my clients by demonstrating my value. They in turn want to see me again. My strategy gradually increases my productivity on each successive visit, and word gets around too. As for the short term strategy guys, yes plenty of them are delivering subpar service and/or overcharging because they have no interest in doing this work long term. For all they know, they may never see a given client again. They extract as much money as they can from a single visit knowing full well the client may never book them again. It’s sad, but true. Not all of us are like that, though. Some of us truly strive to deliver excellent service at a reasonable price. As for the sensual / erotic discussion, I’ll say what I always say in related topics: be upfront about your needs and expectations. Value your masseurs and escorts and compensate them appropriately for the services they are providing. Njguy2, Bluefin, Saabster and 2 others 1 1 3
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