Escorts "real names" and" Stalkers"

[marc anthony]

Thanks, Bucky for that perspective. I, like you, often come to really like the escorts I meet above and beyond the desire to fuck their brains out. Their happiness, growth, and safety are important to me (and more important to them). We should be happy when escorts take the initiative to be prudent and careful... it helps to assure that they will have a long and productive career. Good for them, and good for us.

[Guest Kalifornia]

RE: Escorts

 

CJ you seem to be the one who doesn't "get it." You do not answer questions directly, you change text, assume comments made mean someting else, and make wild statements all without any fact.

 

You speak of proof, how do we even know your story about the uy going through your garbage is even true?

 

The reason you feel the needx to keep explaining yourself is to "save face." Well, for me and probably others it is too late. We see you for what you are.

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Guest CJ]

RE: Escorts

 

Kalifornia- Mark

 

I must tell you honestly from my heart I do not feel a sense of loss.

 

be well and as always and repeatedly I wish you happiness<smile>

 

CJ

[Guest Tampa Yankee]

Why the personal attacks??

 

Although I haven't read every post in this thread...

 

 

CJ has expressed a valid concern and I sympathize and agree to a large extent with his views regarding name security. He has comported himself well, expressed his views respectfully, and related personal experience. Why doubt him?

 

So why the personal attacks. I don’t understand them and I think they are out of place.

 

P.S. He seems like a class guy to me – pity he is a TOP. :-(

[Guest Kalifornia]

RE: Why the personal attacks??

 

TY Thanks for adding your opinion. Variety is the spice of life.

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Guest newawlens]

RE: Why the personal attacks??

 

>Although I haven't read every post in this thread...

>

>

>CJ has expressed a valid concern and I sympathize and agree

>to a large extent with his views regarding name security.

>He has comported himself well, expressed his views

>respectfully, and related personal experience. Why doubt

>him?

>

>So why the personal attacks. I don’t understand them and I

>think they are out of place.

 

 

Like I said, very few people here have never posted personal insults on this board and so very few have the right to complain about that kind of thing. I am not one of those who can claim never to have done it, neither are you and neither is CJ. I do not take it as a compliment when someone tells me I have a 'warped perspective' as he did in #43. I think it is possible for him to say he doesn't agree with my opinion without making a remark like that. Neither you nor he is in a position to teach the rest of us manners so kindly get off your high horse.

[Guest CJ]

RE: Why the personal attacks??

 

I have found in this message board that there are a couple/small group of people who when faced with nothing positive to contribute choose to contribute negative and destructive comments and launch false and hurtful accusations...when these comments are read by other posters they have the effect of causing them to think about posting something in fear they be will berun down by this group...a loss of sharing occurs...the purpose of the board is lost.

 

I hope that your lives have not become so darkened with your life experiences that this is the only viewpoint you can muster...it is sad when you consider the positive and beneficial effect that you could have and the positive influence that you could effect with your knowledge....

 

If you took my comment/viewpoint about your perspective being warped as a personal attack then I owe you an apology and you can consider it given. I apologize.

 

DEEDS SPEAK and all one has to do is read the threads here and see who has integrity,honour, and a positive helpful attitude...this is not directed at any one individual or group but a general comment intended to encourage poitive and helpful exchange of information.

 

I fear that I am being dragged into this negative energy and will refrain from further posts on this thread....a battle cry I am sure for further mudslinging .

 

once again I wish you all a great life and positive experiences in your day to day activity

 

later<smile>

 

CJ

[Guest newawlens]

RE: Why the personal attacks??

 

>I have found in this message board that there are a

>couple/small group of people who when faced with nothing

>positive to contribute choose to contribute negative and

>destructive comments and launch false and hurtful

>accusations...when these comments are read by other posters

>they have the effect of causing them to think about posting

>something in fear they be will berun down by this group...a

>loss of sharing occurs...the purpose of the board is lost.

 

 

The purpose of any message board is to allow people to express their opinions on various topics. Problem is, some people just aren't comfortable with an environment in which everyone has an equal right to do that. They want to express their opinions but don't want those who disagree to have the same right. They just can't get it into their heads that free speech requires that. Why do they find it so hard to understand? Seems really simple to me.

 

>I hope that your lives have not become so darkened with your

>life experiences that this is the only viewpoint you can

>muster...it is sad when you consider the positive and

>beneficial effect that you could have and the positive

>influence that you could effect with your knowledge....

 

 

What really saddens me is encountering people who are so pompous and self-righteous they can't admit that any viewpoint other than their own could ever be valid. People like that can never learn anything from the diversity of opinions that a message board is supposed to encourage because they are convinced that only their opinions are 'right.'

 

>

>If you took my comment/viewpoint about your perspective

>being warped as a personal attack then I owe you an apology

>and you can consider it given. I apologize.

 

I find it kind of hard to take a remark that I have a 'warped perspective' as anything other than an insult. It sure as fuck doesn't sound like a compliment. But you know what I find really hard to take? Pompous jerks who think they have the right to criticize others even though they indulge in the same behavior they are criticizing. When you posted that insult I didn't respond in kind. But when you get up on your high horse and start lecturing the rest of us on the evils of personal insults after you just used one yourself, that is where I draw the line.

[duke37]

RE: Escorts

 

Hello HooBoy?

 

Why are you listed as the last poster at 9:56 and as reply #57, when reply #57 on the thread is newawlins?

 

Just curious as to what you had to say here.

 

Jeff

[Guest CJ]

RE: Why the personal attacks??

 

I know in the last post I said I would not respond but I think that newawlens and I are seeing things in the same light...

 

>The purpose of any message board is to allow people to

>express their opinions on various topics. Problem is, some

>people just aren't comfortable with an environment in which

>everyone has an equal right to do that. They want to

>express their opinions but don't want those who disagree to

>have the same right. They just can't get it into their

>heads that free speech requires that. Why do they find it

>so hard to understand? Seems really simple to me.

 

I am pleased that you agree with me.....

>

>>I hope that your lives have not become so darkened with your

>>life experiences that this is the only viewpoint you can

>>muster...it is sad when you consider the positive and

>>beneficial effect that you could have and the positive

>>influence that you could effect with your knowledge....

>

>

>What really saddens me is encountering people who are so

>pompous and self-righteous they can't admit that any

>viewpoint other than their own could ever be valid. People

>like that can never learn anything from the diversity of

>opinions that a message board is supposed to encourage

>because they are convinced that only their opinions are

>'right.'

 

and we agree again....

 

>I find it kind of hard to take a remark that I have a

>'warped perspective' as anything other than an insult. It

>sure as fuck doesn't sound like a compliment. But you know

>what I find really hard to take?

 

Someone that apologized in a public forum?

 

oh thats right this is your acceptance here.....are you so angry and unforgiving that you cannot accept an apology? Like I said actions speak louder than words..or in this case ....

 

Pompous jerks who think

>they have the right to criticize others even though they

>indulge in the same behavior they are criticizing. When you

>posted that insult I didn't respond in kind. But when you

>get up on your high horse and start lecturing the rest of us

>on the evils of personal insults after you just used one

>yourself, that is where I draw the line.

 

I think for some reason you have included yourself in a group that I specifically excluded you from.

 

Funny I never did see an apology posted here from you for your support of the baseless and nasty comments that you supported so fervently..

 

and once again and unwaveringly I wish you all including you newawlens a happy and productive life filled with joy and happiness..

 

And I promise I will not post a response to whatever may follow...

 

CJ

 

 

 

>

[Guest CJ]

RE: Escorts

 

My apologies Hooboy I probably should not have responded and will not do so again...

 

Would have liked to have known what post 58 was too...but there have been things in my life that I have rethought just as I was about to push enter and those that I thought better of and wish I could have taken back...

 

Hope you are well and that life is treating you with fairness

 

latert<smile>

 

CJ

[Guest newawlens]

RE: Why the personal attacks??

 

>I know in the last post I said I would not respond but I

>think that newawlens and I are seeing things in the same

>light...

 

Yes, you said you would not respond. But you did anyway. To me that behavior belongs in the same category as preaching a sermon against personal attacks right after posting one yourself.

 

>I am pleased that you agree with me.....

 

Only with your words, not with your actions. I'll agree with you in a real sense when you start practicing what you preach. If you ever do.

 

>>I find it kind of hard to take a remark that I have a

>>'warped perspective' as anything other than an insult. It

>>sure as fuck doesn't sound like a compliment. But you know

>>what I find really hard to take?

>

>Someone that apologized in a public forum?

>

>oh thats right this is your acceptance here.....are you so

>angry and unforgiving that you cannot accept an apology?

>Like I said actions speak louder than words..or in this case

>....

 

Apology? You apologized for posting an insult aimed at me after I complained about it. I don't think you ever apologized for presuming to lecture me about personal attacks right after posting one yourself. Did you?

 

>Funny I never did see an apology posted here from you for

>your support of the baseless and nasty comments that you

>supported so fervently..

 

Huh? I know that English is not exactly the same in America as in the country you come from, but I would think you would be able to read my post well enough to notice that I acknowledged you were the victim of a personal insult. And to notice that I never indicated that I agree with that insult. And to notice that I did not respond to your personal insult in kind . . . until you started to lecture me on the subject.

 

>and once again and unwaveringly I wish you all including you

>newawlens a happy and productive life filled with joy and

>happiness..

 

I wish you would get off the lofty moral perch from which you lecture the rest of us unless and until you stop doing the same things you criticize in others. You obviously aren't ready to do that yet.

[Guest Kalifornia]

RE: Escorts

 

Post 58 was made by HooBoy then deleted. he does that a lot. Hey his posts, his board.

 

Mark -Kalifornia

[Guest Ant415]

RE: Escorts

 

K

So short of getting killed or injured by a admirer, all unwanted attention is okay in your book?

[Guest EvanTeed]

RE: Escorts

 

I've read through this whole thread with interest--particularly how far it was able to branch from the original topic!

 

First, I believe in respecting the opinions of others as long as their statements or views do not support being hurtful to anyone. That said, here is my perspective on the topic of 'names'.

 

The name you see for me is the exact same name that appears on my drivers license. My reasons for this choice are many:

- as one poster wrote, life is easier when one doesn't have secrets.

- I believe societys lack of acceptance is perpetuated by ourselves when we hide behind false identities. (In my mind I distinguish between 'false identities', a name used strictly for work but not in every day life; and 'true identitity' which I view as a name--given or chosen--used in day to day life.)

- from a legal standpoint, don't think for 10 seconds that law enforcement isn't able to very quickly find out the true identity of anyone they want to. In todays world using a false identity isn't a valid way of hiding from legal forces unless you change your identity very frequently. Big time criminals are an exception because they don't give out phone numbers, email addresses, or any information that can be used to link to the false identity they've chosen.

- police have more tools at their disposal than the average person, but to track down a persons real name is not hard--there are plenty of agencies willing to offer that service for $50. A stalker with determination isn't going to hesitate to spend $50, so false identities are little protection from them.

- it is much easier to build trust with a client when there are no secrets to begin with.

- in using a real identity one never has to deal with confusion or embarassment of being called a different name in public than the one the client knows you by.

 

All that said, I would strongly agree with CJ's original thought that somebody digging in his trash is crossing lines. If I had a client digging through my trash I'd kindly but firmly tell them that our time together was over and ask him to leave. I'm just not willing to put up with such behavior.

 

My summation: while I personally don't subscribe to the idea of a 'false identity', if it gives somebody a sense of security to use one, hey--go for it. Just, please, choose something that at least sounds plausable: my brain doesn't deal well with somebody who says their name is 'HotBoi4YouTonight'!

 

Hugs,

-Evan Teed