Tips On Ad

[NYCethan]

Hi Again,

 

I took the advice many of you gave and made a RentMen profile. I’m looking for feedback on it because I haven’t had much traffic in the days it’s been up! Be as blunt as you like, I’m not sensitive.

 

Thanks In Advance!

 

My Ad

[+ OliverSaks]

Pic 2 is not adding value imo, showcase your smile more, have someone take some candid shots of you (find someone on Grindr if you don’t have a friend who takes solid pics)

 

Not much about your ad stands out really - it hits on the standard buzz words, but I don’t feel like it says a lot about who you are / what your personality is like. If you’re in a particularly crowded market (LA), you’ve gotta find a way to stand out from the tons of other ads. I think a little personal interview video could be a good place to start in addition to some candid shots.

 

If you would like some other hints, message me / send me a text, my ad is linked on my profile

 

GL!

[+ keroscenefire]

I think your interview answers are great. I would bring some of that personality into the main profile. I love the detail that you play Smash Bros with your friends. Believe it or not, I have actually done that with some of the escorts I have hired. Maybe put something like. We can play a round of Smash Bros and then smash like bros or something. I think the whole being a college kid is your main angle and you should do more to emphasize that.

[NYCethan]

Thank ya’ll!

[NYCethan]

I think your interview answers are great. I would bring some of that personality into the main profile. I love the detail that you play Smash Bros with your friends. Believe it or not, I have actually done that with some of the escorts I have hired. Maybe put something like. We can play a round of Smash Bros and then smash like bros or something. I think the whole being a college kid is your main angle and you should do more to emphasize that.

Play smash bros with me lol. I’ll beat you ?

[Guest LeonTrotsky]

i really like your ad.... but, then again, i saw your private pics, haha...

 

your text is short which is good and not good... i think i would have to ask you more questions to ensure that we would be a good match, so if that is not a problem for you, then cool.

 

btw: come to new york city, yeah?

[NYCethan]

i really like your ad.... but, then again, i saw your private pics, haha...

 

your text is short which is good and not good... i think i would have to ask you more questions to ensure that we would be a good match, so if that is not a problem for you, then cool.

 

btw: come to new york city, yeah?

Hey thanks for taking the time to check me out I’m actually based in NYC! Gonna rework my ad in a little bit and then repost

[Mocha]

Hi Again,

 

I took the advice many of you gave and made a RentMen profile. I’m looking for feedback on it because I haven’t had much traffic in the days it’s been up! Be as blunt as you like, I’m not sensitive.

 

Thanks In Advance!

 

My Ad

 

There’s only 4 things that really matter when it comes down to an ad:

 

1) Your description

2) Your Pics

3) Your Reviews

4) Visibility/The city you’re in

 

Once you put those together, the rest will fall into place. The pics are most important. Before I started escorting, I started doing modeling. But once I realized modeling by itself is not necessarily a money maker, that’s when I used it to jump start entry in the biz.

 

Make a profile on model mayhem and find some photographers with credentials, before looking on Grindr.

 

Really sit down and write your ad, maybe look at other ads to get your creative juices flowing, just don’t copy someone’s ad/style word for word.

 

See if client would be willing to write review.

Personally, trying to start out nowadays is harder than it was 10 years ago. I used to have a steady flow of clients with just 1 picture on Craigslist. Nowadays, everyone expects to see more. Having 4 G rated photos on a platform like RentMen where people can see any and everything, is simply not going to stand out.

 

And of course, location location location. In a place like LA, even 5 star, established escorts could find it hard to generate enough traffic. Most of the clients I meet from LA, tend to be visiting a city that’s NOT LA lol. It’s not going to be an instant hit, and it takes time.

[NYCethan]

There’s only 4 things that really matter when it comes down to an ad:

 

1) Your description

2) Your Pics

3) Your Reviews

4) Visibility/The city you’re in

 

Once you put those together, the rest will fall into place. The pics are most important. Before I started escorting, I started doing modeling. But once I realized modeling by itself is not necessarily a money maker, that’s when I used it to jump start entry in the biz.

 

Make a profile on model mayhem and find some photographers with credentials, before looking on Grindr.

 

Really sit down and write your ad, maybe look at other ads to get your creative juices flowing, just don’t copy someone’s ad/style word for word.

 

See if client would be willing to write review.

Personally, trying to start out nowadays is harder than it was 10 years ago. I used to have a steady flow of clients with just 1 picture on Craigslist. Nowadays, everyone expects to see more. Having 4 G rated photos on a platform like RentMen where people can see any and everything, is simply not going to stand out.

 

And of course, location location location. In a place like LA, even 5 star, established escorts could find it hard to generate enough traffic. Most of the clients I meet from LA, tend to be visiting a city that’s NOT LA lol. It’s not going to be an instant hit, and it takes time.

Thank you sensei ? I’m gonna rework it and repost but I didn’t wanna be to explicit and turn away people who may want someone more lowkey. I’ll find the happy medium!

[Kevin Slater]

I agree that pic #2 isn't my favorite-- makes you look moody. But we do need more than just four pics.

 

Maybe add some useful details, like are you able to host (if so, where) and where are you willing to travel to?

 

Take a look at some other ads and get a sense of what guys say about themselves, and then try to come up with some more to say about yourself.

 

Welcome to the message forum, by the way!

 

Kevin Slater

[Kevin Slater]

Just 'cuz you seem to asking for advice, here's some I had previously posted:

 

• Don't bother with blocked phone calls. Seriously. He's a time waster.
  
• Same for texts that come through from an email address.
  
• Hear a voice on the phone before heading over or giving your address. Subsequent booking can be made via text.
  
• It's not a bad idea to call the hotel and get patched through to the room before heading over, especially if something strikes you as 'off'.
  
• The likelihood of a future booking actually happening is inversely proportional to the number of texts, calls and emails beforehand.
  
• Keep note of the numbers that flake on you, for they'll do it again in six months. And that same guy has done it to me, and every other escort.
  
• Be leery of drunk. They often pass out before you get there, or after.
  
• He may be having a great time and want to extend the session. Mazel tov. But he may be thinking with his little head and not have the funds. Settle up occasionally.
  
• Every client starts as a first timer. But first timers also often lose their nerve, and you lose your time and effort.
  
• Don't front the money for a first time session (hotel, travel, etc.) and rarely for repeat sessions.
  
• Don't drive two hours without a deposit (e.g. Venmo or Amazon e-gift card).
  
• Key words that this is going nowhere: Engineer, Nigeria, Walmart, "your city".
  
• Don't discount your first session because he's going to see you weekly. Future sessions may be negotiable, initial bookings are always full fare.
  
• Make some friends in the biz. They've seen it all before and can offer guidance.
  
• Trust your gut. A few bucks isn't worth your health, safety, or freedom.
  

Most guys you'll meet will be wonderful and pleasant. Some will be odd ducks, and even that can be fun or at least entertaining. A few are bad eggs, but those guys are extremely prolific in wasting your time.

 

Kevin Slater

[+ keroscenefire]

Play smash bros with me lol. I’ll beat you ?

If you ever come to Denver, I definitely will take you up on that.

[Mocha]

Thank you sensei ? I’m gonna rework it and repost but I didn’t wanna be to explicit and turn away people who may want someone more lowkey. I’ll find the happy medium!

 

Just remember: when people are coming across RentMen, they are likely browsing more X rated material. You can be low key, but it’s not OkCupid or ChristianMingle.

 

• Don't front the money for a first time session (hotel, travel, etc.) and rarely for repeat sessions.
  
• Don't drive two hours without a deposit (e.g. Venmo or Amazon e-gift card).
  

 

All good points for sure. Although, I always say there’s an exception to every rule. Couple of things you mentioned don’t always apply, but of course things change overtime and have to be updated (for example, talking to someone by phone before meeting. I can generally get around that because it’s easy to be able to verify someone before I even open the door or leave the house). And nowadays, the ones who call on the phone seem to be more prone to wasting our time than those who text. Especially the ones who call over and over. Like some idiot from Michigan called me several times between 7 and 730 am. Fortunately, I’ve learned to press the silent ring/send to voicemail button in my sleep.

 

But I’m curious what’s your input in this thread about deposits which is currently running:

 

https://m4m-forum.org/threads/escort-requesting-a-deposit.152148/

[NYCethan]

Alright Ya’ll!

 

I updated my ad. I’m working on getting some professional photos taken but in the meantime I did better at showing personality! I’m going to post in the traveling message board and try offering a discount for same day reviews. I’m back in NY now so hopefully I’ll get some clients- LA was dead for me ?

[Mocha]

- LA was dead for me ?

 

Count your blessings honey, at least Ed Buck didn’t call you out there in LA!

 

Plus with the supposed fears of Bubonic Plague due to the booming rat population from the homeless, due to the LA exorbitant cost of living, I think LA could be dead for ALOT of people lol.

 

 

Jokes aside, I actually met a “celebrity” new client from LA over the weekend: 1,600 miles away. He wants me to come out there at some point. I said, I’m not quite in a hurry to lol. Because when I went back in April, I only went because I had a free place to stay for 4 days and some change to play with.

 

My motto for LA is, if you want to meet a client from LA, you have to meet them outside of LA lol. Meet them in San Diego or Palm Springs if you must. Forget about them being able to find you there unless you just really planted there for awhile.

[NYCethan]

Count your blessings honey, at least Ed Buck didn’t call you out there in LA!

 

Plus with the supposed fears of Bubonic Plague due to the booming rat population from the homeless, due to the LA exorbitant cost of living, I think LA could be dead for ALOT of people lol.

 

 

Jokes aside, I actually met a “celebrity” new client from LA over the weekend: 1,600 miles away. He wants me to come out there at some point. I said, I’m not quite in a hurry to lol. Because when I went back in April, I only went because I had a free place to stay for 4 days and some change to play with.

 

My motto for LA is, if you want to meet a client from LA, you have to meet them outside of LA lol. Meet them in San Diego or Palm Springs if you must. Forget about them being able to find you there unless you just really planted there for awhile.

THANK YOU for the update because I felt like such a loser lol.

I'm back in NYC for presumably the rest of the semester and may try to go to miami for basel if I can. LA didn't seem to have the types of men I enjoy meeting anyway so no harm no foul!

[Mocha]

THANK YOU for the update because I felt like such a loser lol.

I'm back in NYC for presumably the rest of the semester and may try to go to miami for basel if I can. LA didn't seem to have the types of men I enjoy meeting anyway so no harm no foul!

 

Lol, funny you say. I used to call Los Angeles, LOSS Angeles because if you went there expecting big money, you’d be at a loss lol.

 

But nowadays, I don’t really dislike it one way or another. Truth is, there’s tons of clients coming in and out of LA. Lots of money going around. No secret there.

 

The problem is the supply and demand is so exorbitant, one just can’t go there haphazardly expecting desired results. I think majority reason a lot of guys are advertising there, is because it’s also the Mecca for gay porn and porn in general.

 

One of my clients left me with a giant box of porn when he passed, and on just about every credit, it’s LA, Hollywood, Santa Barbara or West Hollywood in the title. So unless somebody doing all of that, it might not be in one’s best interest. Or plan way ahead of going there.

[loremipsum]

I think yours is a fine ad. However, the last line — “The only thing I can’t do is host” — personally, it sounds odd because that’s rather a significant thing to be preceded with a “that’s the only thing,” as though it were a trifle. That’s just what I think.

 

Also, your interview responses in #4 — “I don’t try to stand out from the crowd” can indicate that you naturally stand out from the crowd without trying, or it may indicate that you can’t be bothered to try to stand out/“go the extra mile”; and in #9 you say that you wouldn’t say much at all if you were to sit on the beach with a client. Personally, I’d modify that answer, too.

Edited September 29, 2019 by loremipsum

[NYCethan]

I think yours is a fine ad. However, the last line — “The only thing I can’t do is host” — personally, it sounds odd because that’s rather a significant thing to be preceded with a “that’s the only thing,” as though it were a trifle. That’s just what I think.

 

Also, your interview responses in #4 — “I don’t try to stand out from the crowd” can indicate that you naturally stand out from the crowd without trying, or it may indicate that you can’t be bothered to try to stand out/“go the extra mile”; and in #9 you say that you wouldn’t say much at all if you were to sit on the beach with a client. Personally, I’d modify that answer, too.

Thank you for taking the time to respond Ya’ll are so nice ??