Which areas of the country are likely the most sustainable for business?

[Mocha]

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Based on the number of cities and general saturation/volume of clients.

 

I’ve been in the Midwest, but considering making way back to living in the western part of the US. I’ve lived in 3 of the southern US states, 1 of the western and 1 of the midwestern. I’ve not done the northeast extensively, but I would imagine despite it’s smaller imprint on the map, it would have the largest concentration of clients.

 

It’s also hard to tell if lots of escorts=lots of clients. Like New York generally has 300 or 400 advertising, but it doesn’t necessary mean the number of clients matches to create sustainability. There’s also some cities I’ve been to that regularly, never have more than 5 escorts advertising. Yet there’s always new clients on most every visit, even after several years.

 

Here’s my viewpoint of each region:

 

The South: Several cities to choose from, but generally the most conservative. How much a person expects for an hour outside of Florida and Texas, can be a challenge as rates can be lower.

 

The Northeast: High concentrations of clients in the big player cities (New York, Boston, Washington DC...I also don’t consider DC as being a southern city, even though technically it is). However, generally comes with a higher costs and more competition.

 

The Midwest: Solid base of clients, lots of potential in big key player cities. However, tends to be seasonal and many cities lie in the Rust belt (which can translate to no or low pay). Business can drop off in the colder winter months in many Midwest cities.

 

The West: Lots of potential to stand out, less competition across the board. However, it can be conservative outside of the big key player cities. And generally once outside of the big cities, there’s not much potential for business. Many states in the west have become dead zones for biz, especially since Craigslist got dropped, considering that was big in the smaller markets: Idaho, Wyoming, Montana, northern Nevada...

[Gymowner]

From my understanding taking with "the boys" its hit or miss for each one and some guys do better by nature than others in a city and the reverse in other cities and areas.

Find cities you do well in by trial and error and just use those 4 or 5 cities to travel to.

[hypothetically]

@Mocha, there is no definitive answer. It’s counterintuitive to even read so deep into the information you’ve provided and no feedback will aid you in finding an answer. Why? Because each escorts experience is unique. It really all comes down to what you’re selling, how you’re selling it, who wants it....and when.

 

If someone tells you a city is a gold mine, that doesn’t mean you will thrive there. If someone tells you a city is a dead zone, doesn’t mean you will tank there. So many factors go into how monetary this business is from one person to the next, there is no concrete answer.

[Mocha]

@hypothetically and @Gymowner...I suppose that all makes sense.

 

I’ve just always been torn between west and east coast. DC has been a favorite city of mine, but San Francisco is also a favorite of mine. Unless @Kevin Slater can process some data, I just don’t know which city has more clients lol.

 

I’m inclined to say the Washington DC area has more clients, but I find San Francisco is easier to reach clients. I feel like San Francisco guys have more respect for escorts than Washington DC guys (no offense to anyone in DC, but that’s just how it is). They plan in advance, and with detail. Why? I don’t know.

[Quincy_7]

Considering the number of foreign escorts who travel to New York my guess would be that New York is the most lucrative city in the US for escorts. More escorts does mean more competition but there's a bigger pie to share.

[Mocha]

Considering the number of foreign escorts who travel to New York my guess would be that New York is the most lucrative city in the US for escorts. More escorts does mean more competition but there's a bigger pie to share.

 

That may be true. It’s just in the past of previously advertising in New York (though I have met many clients from New York in other cities), I’ve not seen the response level as in other areas. I can imagine with NYC it’s also about maintaining top visibility.

 

New York and LA is one of the main reasons rentboy of the day is always sold out, weeks in advance. I’m going to reach out to Rentmen and ask if they can consider that...because it’s like why is it that everytime there’s a rentboy of the day, they’re in LA or New York.

 

Go to rentmen right now today, I can bet that the RentMen of the day is someone advertising in New York or Los Angeles, depending on what region of the country you’re in. I think rentmen needs to include more regions in fact. So far they only divide it up into 2 regions.

 

I’m going to email them today...

[Mocha]

@Mocha, there is no definitive answer. It’s counterintuitive to even read so deep into the information you’ve provided and no feedback will aid you in finding an answer. Why? Because each escorts experience is unique. It really all comes down to what you’re selling, how you’re selling it, who wants it....and when.

 

If someone tells you a city is a gold mine, that doesn’t mean you will thrive there. If someone tells you a city is a dead zone, doesn’t mean you will tank there. So many factors go into how monetary this business is from one person to the next, there is no concrete answer.

 

That is true, now that I think about it.

 

One of the most frequent question I get is from clients and friends are, “what’s your best City” for biz. I tell them, I don’t have one. That’s why I include whole regions because, there is no 1 best city. Because I could go there one month and do fine, and the next month nada.

 

I’ve known people go to Chicago and Washington DC and do big things, and then on the next trip or subsequent trip, don’t get anything. There’s some small farm towns I’ve made more coin in, than most trips to Los Angeles.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

NYC and LA are oversaturated, high-cost-of-living markets. If you're wanting to solely escort and not just use it as supplemental income, I wouldn't consider either city a smart move.

 

First and foremost, try to figure out which city will be best for you, personally. A city that offers you more nurturing than what you've got now.

[Mocha]

NYC and LA are oversaturated, high-cost-of-living markets. If you're wanting to solely escort and not just use it as supplemental income, I wouldn't consider either city a smart move.

 

First and foremost, try to figure out which city will be best for you, personally. A city that offers you more nurturing than what you've got now.

 

LA is good for photo shoots, meeting clients who came in for elsewhere, or specific arrangements. Unless you just happen to already be established there. Or like you say, doing it as a side hustle.

 

I just don’t see how guys in New York are affording it out there. Considering a large amount of clients want us to host nowadays, I just don’t see how anyone is pulling off having an apartment/hotel in high rent, extreme competition markets. Guess I wouldn’t know unless I’m actually there.

 

On the other hand, cheaper cities like Kansas City ain’t doing shit either. It’s like every other time a local books an appointment, it’s always some reason why they can’t keep the plans. So unreliable. No respect for sex worker’s time. To them we’re doing this as some optional side hustle, they don’t even treat it as anything to follow thru on. Ask for a cancellation fee, they look thru the phone like they just seen 2 heads.

[hypothetically]

 

I just don’t see how guys in New York are affording it out there. Considering a large amount of clients want us to host nowadays, I just don’t see how anyone is pulling off having an apartment/hotel in high rent, extreme competition markets. Guess I wouldn’t know unless I’m actually there.

 

It takes a vigilant, consistent and intelligent escort to survive NYC on escorting alone. Three qualities very few escorts possess. Escorting in NYC is one of the most intensive and aggressive markets in the country..by far. I don’t think it’s good for one’s mental health to work full time in New York. It’s feast or famine in the big apple.

Edited June 23, 2019 by hypothetically

[Mocha]

It takes a vigilant, consistent and intelligent escort to survive NYC on escorting alone. Three qualities very few escorts possess. Escorting in NYC is one of the most intensive and aggressive markets in the country..by far. I don’t think it’s good for one’s mental health to work full time in New York. It’s feast or famine in the big apple.

 

I'm just curious, what are the factors that make NYC more intense and aggressive than other markets. Is it the callers or the competition or a mix of both?

 

I recently emailed Rentmen, and I told them that they should consider dividing up Rentmen of the day and video of the day into more categories than east and west. Literally just about every day, the people who have purchased Rentmen of the day are generally those from New York or LA. I suggested they ad more regions/areas so whoever chooses Rentmen of the day can concentrate on viewers in their general region. Not just 1 whole side of the country or another.

 

I was told they are considering it...so if it happens, thank me later.

Edited June 24, 2019 by Mocha

[hypothetically]

I'm just curious, what are the factors that make NYC more intense and aggressive than other markets. Is it the callers or the competition or a mix of both?

 

It is......New York.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

It is......New York.

 

I agree. NYC is tough to explain in words. There are few other US markets like it.

 

Now, if you're talking equally as tricky cities worldwide: Singapore, London, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Sydney, Rio and Buenos Aires all come to mind.

[Mocha]

I agree. NYC is tough to explain in words. There are few other US markets like it.

 

Now, if you're talking equally as tricky cities worldwide: Singapore, London, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Sydney, Rio and Buenos Aires all come to mind.

 

I just feel America as a whole is just overdone. @hypothetically was right when he said awhile back that the whole escort thing is like in “fashion” right now. I wholeheartedly believe there’s more sex workers in the US than there are clients to keep up. Yet, we’re so limited on where we can advertise. Where did America go wrong? Why was things so open back in 2003, 2004, 2007..,and now we’re in some puritan type of society where everything is censored and you can’t have slightly nude photos on model mayhem or adam4adam front cover anymore. Let alone advertise as an OMG...escort.

 

Even outside of the biz, your average city is going to have 10 guys who look similar or better doing the same hustle. That’s why I’m really trying to find a lower competitive market. At the same time, it can’t be someplace isolated, where there isn’t but 1 or 2 rent guys advertising.

 

It looks good on paper, being the only escort in the state, but then you get there and realize why. I thought about moving to New Mexico for that reason, but that area goes thru some random dry spells that can’t be explained.

[Cannon]

Everywhere you go, it's going to be saturated. My suggestion would be to Just focus on where you will thrive regardless. I live in Los Angeles and when I've traveled, I've done really well in places that were surprising to me so just travel a bit, explore and go where your business gets the best response.

[Mocha]

Everywhere you go, it's going to be saturated. My suggestion would be to Just focus on where you will thrive regardless. I live in Los Angeles and when I've traveled, I've done really well in places that were surprising to me so just travel a bit, explore and go where your business gets the best response.

 

True...

 

Thing is, I already travel extensively. It’s fun, brings me to a lot of client bases, and almost gives me this unspoken sense of “popularity” even though I have never done studio porn (yet ? )

 

However, I just don’t want to always be NEEDING to travel in order to stay busy. I just want to be in a reliable city where if I want to, I can just do the proverbial sitting at home, dick and lube in hand and just have clients coming and going. Not all this going 1 and 2 weeks without a client foolishness as it’s been in my current area. I know I’m not alone. One of my regulars told me of one his regulars who have to travel outside of his state to make ends meet.

 

I’m just finding the challenge right now in many cities: either it’s heavy with competition, or the areas with no completion are fluctuating small markets that have seasonal demand. On top of that, some of these cities which are ultra conservative (and low key economically repressed) seem to be rivaling the big markets in the amount of competition.

Edited August 2, 2019 by Mocha

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Bottom line, go where you're a commodity, not a common good.

 

I don't independently travel, but when I've put feelers out, I know I'd do very well in Asia, parts of the Middle East and Mexico City.

 

Not that you have to go to the end of the world to work, but know your target clientele and market to them. You cannot sell an item if you don't specifically know who's going to buy it. Tap into your natural strengths.

[Mocha]

Bottom line, go where you're a commodity, not a common good.

 

I think you have a point: I need to go someplace where there’s no sausages like me for sale, for atleast 250 miles. And actually be a demand for it. I think I do need to get out the US for a lil while...it’s like a meat market here.

 

[JTtorretto]

I agree. NYC is tough to explain in words. There are few other US markets like it.

 

Now, if you're talking equally as tricky cities worldwide: Singapore, London, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Sydney, Rio and Buenos Aires all come to mind.

 

 

Bro, are you speaking from personal experience? (u worked those international cities). If u have, extremely impressive and kudos to you as I had trouble even working London & they speak English, tho their slang was difficult to comprehend.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Bro, are you speaking from personal experience?

 

All of them, yes.