My Picture of Carlos Morales

[KY_TOP]

>Guys,

>

>It is ALWAYS a good idea, not simply a courtesy, to share a

>review with the escort concerned before posting it.

 

I could not disagree with you more. At what point do you use the escort's words and not your own? What do you do if the escort says "you don't think I'm the best kisser, top, bottom, etc ... you've ever been with?" Do you/they add positive adjectives when they edit the review? What would you do when they say "Don't tell that or ask you to delete an important part of the review like their rates or if they top or bottom or kiss? "Don't tell them I kissed you, I don't kiss everyone, just special clients like you."

 

I think if clients are allowing you to edit their reviews of you then they are not the clients reviews, they are your own reviews of yourself.

 

> This

>doesn't necessarily mean the review will be less accurate, it

>can mean that the resulting review will be less biased and

>sometimes even more accurate.

 

It is supposed to be biased. It is the CLIENTS review of the escort, not a community project.

 

>Who is to say that the

>reviewer's memory is 100% accurate. And where is the threat?

 

The threat is that the escort ask to change the review and leave something out or put the review in the Escorts words, not the clients. The threat, a review that is not completely honest or truthful.

 

>You, as reviewer, always have final say.

 

Incorrect, the Escort ALWAYS has the final word per the policy of this website.

 

>

>Hard feelings can be the result of a rush to review without

>sharing or communicating.

 

Allowing an escort to edit can also result in hard feelings if the client is asked to delete or change a part of the review the client feels should be shared.

 

>Charlie and I went round and round

>for weeks about his review of me--he thought it was

>"positive"; I thought it was devastating. Thanks in part to

>his professionalism, patience and kindness, we worked it out.

>But the upheaval could have been avoided.

 

Was Charlie honest and correct about what he said? I would have just decided to not see you again if you don't like what I had said in a review and you wanted to argue about it.

 

>This simple courtesy can also help avoid complications and

>work for Daddy. For instance, the very first person who wrote

>a review for me accidentally mixed my real name in with Tom,

>back and forth, resulting in a confusing review and

>endangering my identity. Daddy had to go into the review,

>after it was posted, and correct the names.

 

I think that the example you give is an isolated situation and I would hope that Daddy would prefer that reviewers adhere to this site's mission statement "Honest in our judgements and truthful in our reporting."

 

>I suggest that a spirit of cooperation in these matters would

>benefit everyone. This doesn't mean that the shits won't get

>the bad reviews they deserve.

 

I again point you to this sites mission statement

 

> But if you've loved the service

>you got from an escort, let him see what you're writing. For

>Christ's sake, some of us escorts might even help with your

>grammar and spelling!!

 

I feel my incorrect grammar or spelling has neither added to or taken away from my reviews of Escorts. Being HONEST and TRUTHFUL in MY reporting has.

[whipped guy]

Re: "It is ALWAYS a good idea, not simply a courtesy, to share a review with the escort concerned before posting it."

 

My first published review was submitted five years ago. It being my first submission, and not really knowing the “rules of the game”, I contacted the escort and asked if he wanted to read it prior to it being submitted. He wrote back saying that such a thing was not necessary because he wanted the review to be reflection of my experiences and my perceptions as viewed through my eyes. In fact his exact final words were, “Thanks for the thought... no need for me to review it... I’ll wait to read it when it appears on the review site.”

 

Would that all escorts share such a view regarding the “rules of the game”.

[Epigonos]

It is now nearly four years since I wrote my frist review and during that period I have written a good number. It is absolutely inconceivable to me that I would ever offer an escort the opportunity to edit my review of our experience. As far as I'm concerned doing so destroys the entire purpose of this site.

I do NOT read reviews to garner the opinion of the escort as to what happened. I am ONLY interested in the opinion of the client -- after all that is what I may become if I like what I read. Why would I want to read a book review written or edited by the author of a book? Same idea as far as I'm concerned.

[+ Tom Isern]

Guys,

 

As I think back on the clients who have reviewed me, most of them offered to share the review before it was posted, or in fact did share it. I can think of only one instance where I asked for revision and that was simply because I wanted the review to sound smart and not, as I perceived a certain part, cheesy. It frankly isn’t a very big deal to me and you can have whatever practice or opinion you want on the deal. I don’t care. I don’t have a policy that requires clients to act one way or another. My clients have simply been very nice guys who, after coming to know me, wanted to help my business, for reasons that are theirs to share and not mine. That is up to them. I believe what I believe about the practice. If you disagree, fine. Just pull your claws in. I’m not the Anti-Christ. You, as client, are always in the drivers seat when it comes to reviews.

 

Barry, we’ve had a misunderstanding. Charlie and I didn’t go round and round for weeks writing the review. He posted it and then we emailed about it after the review was posted. I didn't think the review was accurate. It also, to be frank, hurt my feelings. We parted friends, I believe.

 

IceFireWizard, if you really believe I am a publicity hound, perhaps you’d do better to just stop talking about me?

 

Regarding the issue of payment vis-à-vis the Morales review situation: It is true that the client paid us both. But it is more complicated—the client and I had a long-standing agreement that I would reduce my fee (one-half, actually) to facilitate the three-ways. Neither of us would have had access to this “fun” without the benefit of my apartment to host and my reduced fee. In each encounter it was my job to choose and line up the escort for the date and time. It was also my job to tell him what to do and drive and control the scene. So considering the fact that I could have been seeing a full-fare customer on those fun evenings, I did (in a way) have money on the table. The escort was also, in each situation, my selection. He was, as well, following my directions and doing as I asked.

 

Again, guys, it’s perfectly okay for us to disagree on anything related to the practices in dispute here. I'll continue to believe that there is not ONE CORRECT way for us all to do this, but multiple different ways for clients and escorts to cum together and write about it afterwards. But I do want to keep the facts related to me "straight," at least in the discussion.

[+ Tom Isern]

I finished writing the above and went to my email inbox. The following two sentences were there from a client:

 

thanks for being so considerate the other day

i appreciate your sharing your feelings and observations with me

 

He also told me when he'd be calling for a subsequent assignation. The point is that sex is a two-way street. If you enjoyed working with an escort and plan to see him again, discussing the review together can be a good way to start building a camaraderie that will make things better the next time around.

 

It is, after all, common practice in better work environments for the "employee" to review the "employer" as part of any job evaluation. I'd like to see that here: a standard space for the escort to respond to each and every review. Now that would level the playing field!

 

Okay, pull out your flame throwers...

[+ Lucky]

RE: My Picture of Tom Isern

 

You are a tenacious guy, Tom, the Scott Adler of the East Coast. But that's not a bad thing. I admire your passion and persistence. As you have figured out, not everybody is going to agree with you. What I like is that you have considered everything that has been said here, taken some lumps, and still stand ready to go. You seem to have a better understanding of how other people perceive this subject. Good for you!

[+ Tom Isern]

RE: My Picture of Tom Isern

 

Thanks, Lucky. I think there is room for divergent viewpoints and I don't generally get threatened by people who disagree with me. Sometimes I even enjoy learning from the experience!

[IceFireWizard]

dishonest

 

>you’d do better to just stop talking about me?

 

Don't count on it!

[augustman]

RE: dishonest

 

I have been submitting reviews for three years. I have usually sent them to the escort. I am glad I have first, two escorts specifically asked I not submit the reviews. They were both excellent. They wish to keep their privacy and both had nuisance issues after reviews posted here and just simply did not want to deal with it anymore.

When their names have been 411'd I have responded privately to the person submitting the request. I do not know if a guy wants his privacy what are you suppose to do?

 

Second I had incorrect information including listing a phone number that they did not want listed and incorrect rate, bad typing on my part.

 

As to post submittal change, yes I had asked for something to be changed and it was done within 48 hours. Given wordcheck is not available in the comments section, typos are very easy and how many times have I seen someone check unsatisfactory for the session and give a glowing review, mistakes do happen.

 

As to escorts review of escorts, I just do not think they hold as much weight as regular reviewers. Andre just mentioned one in a thread. But that should be up to each client to make the decision. Look at it this way, Tom could have easily hidden behind another email address to submitted it and no one here would be the wiser. He was up front about who he was and never hid behind any falsehoods. I still have mixed feelings on whether it should be treated as a regular review in the escort review section if Tom did not pay for it, but it certainly has been worthy of the discussion it has produced.