Ryan Steel

[builder boy]

I was being sarcastic, I knew exactly what he was referring to, but thank for using your time to dig past posts. I'm the meantime I have planned several other weekends with Ryan, and yes he's fantastic. Do with that what you will

[+ Gar1eth]

I was being sarcastic, I knew exactly what he was referring to, but thank for using your time to dig past posts. I'm the meantime I have planned several other weekends with Ryan, and yes he's fantastic. Do with that what you will

 

 

 

I'm confused-not really an unknown condition for me. Did you change your opinion on Ryan between 2016 and now?

 

Gman

[biggerbilly]

I think most here have to understand this is a very expensive "sport"... not for the faint of heart or wallet. It's like fine wine. Part of the pleasure is the experience. Many here want a cheap bottle of wine to just get drunk on. If that's your thing... more power to you. For those that want and can afford the escort of choice, over time, many times... much much more can and will happen. All the time? Guaranteed? Nope. When you aren't getting the pleasure out of the bottle of wine, move on to the next selection. I'm getting to see on here who is into the luxury of the sport and who just wants to get laid.

 

Give me the cheap stuff! Especially if it’s strong! Lol.

 

Seriously, post like this kind of get on my nerves. It’s the idea that the more expensive something is, the better it is. If you like Ryan, great! And for many, muscle worship is enough, and he is a perfect fit. But the idea that because some of use want certainty, we cannot handle the game? No, there’s a difference between playing a game, and not wanting to be played. That’s kind of why this board exist.

 

Why bother asking about providers, when you can just roll the dice? And if you have a bad experience, but enough money, why hire them again. Maybe if you build trust, things will be better next time.

[builder boy]

I'm confused-not really an unknown condition for me. Did you change your opinion on Ryan between 2016 and now?

 

Gman

Here's the Cliff Notes version and then we will move forward.

I had seen Ryan many times, we had a difference of opinion, maybe more on my part. He has always looked amazing and been cream of the crop.

We have reunited and have several fantastic encounters and trips.

He's a star plain and simple.

Hope this helps.

[Gymowner]

bigger...if one doesnt want to be played, then dont be played. thats up to the client. my point is that many escorts will state a limited amount going into a first time situation. turn this around. if you were the escort, would you promise everyone a full out sexcapade before ever meeting? my god have you ever seen some of the guys that hire? and you would get a full hard on and screw their brains out? for everyone listening here, um, remember the "little guy" down there has to work. its not a pussy that can be "faked" each and every time. erections have to happen (someone want to fill me in on how it can without an erection). would you rather a guy state a more limited amount, then when he is comfortable provide more? under promise/over deliver other than the other way around?

 

Thats why i stated it is an expensive sport. if you come across a guy that interests you you may have to be with him a few times before he opens up to more. be willing to take the more limited amount of actions in the beginning and if it doesnt seem to be going anywhere else and you really want more...move on.

 

if you want a full on sex marathon with a guy the first time you meet him, hang out at a bath house and be prepared to get whatever YOUR physical ability is to get. and its basically free! oh want a perfect 10 star uber muscled model to do this? hah! guess again guys!!! guess again!

 

i have never gone by what the escorts "dos and donts" are when contacting them. i state what my least amount of interaction is and then if they agree i go from there. i see a regular all the time that has his limits. and he really hasnt expanded on them at all. but you know what? what he does do he is probably one of thee if not thee best at those limits i have ever been with! total pleasure to be around and what a body! so am i concerned that he wont do more? nope. i am perfectly fine with our arrangement. its exactly as we started many many times ago and it continues exactly the same way today. should i have dumped him because i would have liked more?

Edited August 2, 2018 by Gymowner

[NJmusclelover]

bigger...if one doesnt want to be played, then dont be played. thats up to the client. my point is that many escorts will state a limited amount going into a first time situation. turn this around. if you were the escort, would you promise everyone a full out sexcapade before ever meeting? my god have you ever seen some of the guys that hire? and you would get a full hard on and screw their brains out? for everyone listening here, um, remember the "little guy" down there has to work. its not a pussy that can be "faked" each and every time. erections have to happen (someone want to fill me in on how it can without an erection). would you rather a guy state a more limited amount, then when he is comfortable provide more? under promise/over deliver other than the other way around?

 

Thats why i stated it is an expensive sport. if you come across a guy that interests you you may have to be with him a few times before he opens up to more. be willing to take the more limited amount of actions in the beginning and if it doesnt seem to be going anywhere else and you really want more...move on.

 

if you want a full on sex marathon with a guy the first time you meet him, hang out at a bath house and be prepared to get whatever YOUR physical ability is to get. and its basically free! oh want a perfect 10 start uber muscled model to do this? hah! guess again guys!!! guess again!

Your right

[biggerbilly]

@Gymowner, I think you’re not getting what I have an issue with. I have zero issue with Ryan, because I like the fact that he is upfront with what he will or won’t do. It’s spreading the idea that it’s no big deal to shell out a bunch of money in the hopes that something will happen that may never happen. @Gar1eth simply mentioned that before someone hires Ryan, those limits should be made clear. I feel that comments that followed made it seem that those limits are unimportant, and if someone is not willing to pay high rates in the hopes of something more later, they are loser.

 

To put it simply, if you are not interested in muscle worship, you probably shouldn’t hire Ryan. If you are, he’s probably great at it, maybe the best. But don’t hire him, if you’re are not interested in muscle worship, in the hopes that he will do more later.

[Gymowner]

i never thought you had a problem with ryan. i am being more general than specific of a certain escort. its not about paying high rates. its about the notion that these are human beings. what one will promise and one will deliver can and may be different... from the start or over time. usually the later than the former. if i were an escort i would have to be in the same vein. if not, i would be a machine and god bless the escort that can be basically a plug in fuck machine!

 

im sorry that you feel this way. i understand you want to say to an escort on the first encounter "i want this, this, this and that" and the escort says "sure thing boss" and performs effortlessly with you. well sorry...most men cant perform ever up to this level in life...real or professionally. think of the hairy, gross, fat old asses that a guy has to look down at and what? they are to perform to a level of a teen ager on fitness model? aint gonna happen boys!

[biggerbilly]

i never thought you had a problem with ryan. i am being more general than specific of a certain escort. its not about paying high rates. its about the notion that these are human beings. what one will promise and one will deliver can and may be different... from the start or over time. usually the later than the former. if i were an escort i would have to be in the same vein. if not, i would be a machine and god bless the escort that can be basically a plug in fuck machine!

 

im sorry that you feel this way. i understand you want to say to an escort on the first encounter "i want this, this, this and that" and the escort says "sure thing boss" and performs effortlessly with you. well sorry...most men cant perform ever up to this level in life...real or professionally. think of the hairy, gross, fat old asses that a guy has to look down at and what? they are to perform to a level of a teen ager on fitness model? aint gonna happen boys!

Actually, I’m not disagreeing with this. I’m against an escort promising what they cannot deliver. I think a provider should be as honest as possible, and a client should not read what is not written.

[+ Gar1eth]

 

im sorry that you feel this way. i understand you want to say to an escort on the first encounter "i want this, this, this and that" and the escort says "sure thing boss" and performs effortlessly with you. well sorry...most men cant perform ever up to this level in life...real or professionally. think of the hairy, gross, fat old asses that a guy has to look down at and what? they are to perform to a level of a teen ager on fitness model? aint gonna happen boys!

 

But, and this is my point exactly, while obviously there are going to be exceptions or extreme cases, the best escorts working now-and again I'll use for an example @Mikegaite since he is the one I know the best, but I could probably also mention Kristian (if he is still escorting)- and those escorts of blesséd memory which we on the Forum still reminisce about fondly such as Dirk from Man to Man or Alec Andrews (and notice I didn't mention Alec's partner Ryan. Ryan was a nice guy but from my experience with him probably only really performed well if Alec were present or if he felt some attraction for the client), could promise fairly effortless encounters for the majority of their clients. Could I do it if I had the looks, physique, and tallywacker to be an escort, but were otherwise the same? HECK NO!! But that's why not every handsome well-endowed guy can be an escort.

 

And the only reason I am commenting is the same reason I had when Rex B used to praise certain escorts. The escorts he liked, he praised to high heaven. But the majority of them weren't full service, and many probably required the elusive "chemistry" to perform well. But if people hadn't read (what this is turning out to be) long, involved threads, or had prior knowledge derived from other threads they very possibly might have totally unrealistic expectations for their encounter leading to disappointment. And as you mentioned previously, @Gymowner this is an expensive hobby. While I have no direct knowledge, my impression is that Hooboy started the review site and the forum to make encounters less nebulous for the benefit of both clients and escorts.

 

Goan

[biggerbilly]

I'm starting to think a section devoted to muscle worship would be beneficial, ala the spa section. A lot of guys here are happy with muscle worship or alpha worship, and are not looking for BF type hires. Would it be too much to ask the powers at be to consider expanding things?

 

(@Guy Fawkes, wink-wink)

[+ azdr0710]

Many of these "muscle worship only" guys will be more "generous" to trusted clients and even first-time clients who give off a good vibe and are respectful and discreet. This has been well-established here in the forums.

 

@biggerbilly A "muscle worship" subforum will only lead to more chaos and debate, confusion and anger.

 

Pre-meet communication is the most important thing to help avoid disappointment. If the provider is reluctant to commit to exactly what a client wants, that client needs to make a decision. Admittedly, there are providers who won't do much more than "muscle worship" and many have legions of followers

[biggerbilly]

@biggerbilly A "muscle worship" subforum will only lead to more chaos and debate, confusion and anger.

 

I don’t see how? Well, I guess I can see some “chaos, debate, confusion and anger” coming from a new subforum, but not because of the topic, but because that’s what forums are, lol. If we don’t want any of that we should close them all down.

[+ harey]

I'm starting to think a section devoted to muscle worship would be beneficial, ala the spa section. A lot of guys here are happy with muscle worship or alpha worship, and are not looking for BF type hires. Would it be too much to ask the powers at be to consider expanding things?

 

(@Guy Fawkes, wink-wink)

Although that's an interesting idea due to the number of escorts who provide a muscle worship experience, I suspect even MW means different things to different providers and clients. And @azdr0710 correctly pointed out that MW can be an entree activity that evolves into more interactive sessions over time. I'm not sure it's possible to put a box around it as a separate forum.

 

I haven't met Ryan Steel but noticed him as a model even before he started advertising. It's rare to find an escort who is classically handsome with big size and excellent aesthetics. If he's also a sweet guy (and I don't know either way), then I can understand why some clients would find any intimate connection very satisfying, even if Ryan doesn't always reciprocate.

[Skip]

Lots of typing, not much action. You should all hire the guy, then you know. Fly to Houston where he is right now, fly him to you. Then you know guys. No more speculation. This is a fun forum though. Make sure you report.

[MaxMuscle9x6]

I'm starting to think a section devoted to muscle worship would be beneficial, ala the spa section. A lot of guys here are happy with muscle worship or alpha worship, and are not looking for BF type hires. Would it be too much to ask the powers at be to consider expanding things?

 

(@Guy Fawkes, wink-wink)

If your into muscle worship, try this guy. https://rent.men/JustinHerring. He does more than worship, but happy to leave it worship only too.

[BaronArtz]

If your into muscle worship, try this guy. https://rent.men/JustinHerring. He does more than worship, but happy to leave it worship only too.

 

I second that.

 

Surprised to see his ad is back up.

[biggerbilly]

Although that's an interesting idea due to the number of escorts who provide a muscle worship experience, I suspect even MW means different things to different providers and clients. And @azdr0710 correctly pointed out that MW can be an entree activity that evolves into more interactive sessions over time. I'm not sure it's possible to put a box around it as a separate forum.

 

 

Couldn’t the same argument be made for masseurs? A lot of guys want different things in a massage. And some masseurs are willing to go further. And yet we’ve managed to survive having a Spa section.

 

Anyway, it’s only a suggestion. At the end of the day, it may not happen. But, I’m not seeing the confusion argument.

[Perezjulian]

I met Ryan steel in NYC and session was good. Pm me for details.

[NJmusclelover]

Ryan is in DC right now has new pics up too

https://rent.men/RyanSteel/

Love this guy

[builder boy]

Looking stunning

[NJmusclelover]

If your into muscle worship, try this guy. https://rent.men/JustinHerring. He does more than worship, but happy to leave it worship only too.

This guy looks good but how do you compare his body to ryan’s

Ryan’s body is on another level

[Gymowner]

if justins body is as it appears in the pics then yowza! what a hot man! i never put the emphasis of "hotness" on the size or condition of the escort. sexy is sexy. there have been some guys ive seen in print 165 pounds whose bodies are instant viagra!

 

ryans body and condition is always spot on. is he sometimes a little bigger than other times and a little more shredded some times than others? sure. he is a human being. but i can attest from all the times ive spent with ryan that he is always in the top top elite of escorts body wise, condition wise and character/personality wise. really blows my mind how he can stay like this all the time!

[builder boy]

Ryan another planet. Very few at that level and are favorites of mine

[HopkinsLad]

Saw Ryan in DC, the best imho.