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SamMiller213

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  1. I’ve recently made the switch from hiring off of MF/RM and started to scope out local establishments and independent providers instead. Talent started to dry up on the main websites and I was getting tired of overpriced and unskilled guys.

    I’ve had a decent amount of luck just going with the flow and it leading to more with about a 60% - 70% success rate and learned a few things along the way.

    1. A Google/Yelp search for male massage therapists was helpful in first finding independent therapists. Social media searches can be helpful too.

    2. When possible I cross referenced online to see if I could find any social media that led me to see if they were on the same team as me and surprisingly that was usually pretty easy to confirm - I found this to obviously increase chances of something going further. It’s obviously much less likely from a “straight” provider but I can’t say it’s never happened before.

    3. I never directly ask beforehand or during but instead just let it progress - there are ways to give subtle clues without being obvious and I’ve found this to actually be more stimulating for me and to limit the risk of crossing the line and being turned down.

    4. Soothe/Zeel is much more hit or miss and again I’ve never flat out asked because I understand the risk - I’ve just let it progress and if it goes there it does. My success rate via these apps is much lower, probably in the 30% range but I’ve found this to increase with repeat visits.

    I find this whole thing much more enjoyable than using the sites as there’s the unknown of what will happen which makes it more enticing.

    My last hire was in Phoenix on a work trip and it worked out really well. I’m also decently hung which has been helpful here too 😂.


    Any of you doing more of this and less of the main websites?

    (Also, to be clear I’m not discussing any of the places and/or names here. This post is more about understanding people’s views on this topic and the approach rather than anything else.)

  2. 2 hours ago, sniper said:

    I am not one of them(yet), but there are some people on this forum for whom that amount of money is meaningless. If youre worth well into 7 figures or beyond, taking the occasional $300 flyer on someone doesn't impact your lifestyle in any way.

    I get it but for me it’s less about affordability and more about bang for buck here. These guys are just stealing money at this point with zero skill.

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