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Update: Someone from the forums here private messaged me and they messaged him to ask about his rates and follow-up by asking about whether or not he offers MT, MN and HE. The rates he gave were similar ($20 off), so the person forwarded him my post above as a reason for inquiring in so much detail. Rene’s response was that I never asked for sensual and that I was disrespectful. That sucks - gave him benefit of the doubt and actually thought he was kind. I guess I was more played than I thought.

Well said, to all three of you, and I agree @CuriousByNature, @CuriousGuy714 and @Lohengrin1979. I feel dumb, but what you guys said is all true. I posted here, and hopefully others can make their choice at least knowing what it looks like in reality.

MassagebyRENE - Male Massage & Bodywork in Los Angeles, CA | RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM Gay Masseur MassagebyRENE in Los Angeles, CA offering a wide range of massages ⭐ experienced in therapeutic, sensual, swedish, hotStone, deepTissue. So, I went to see him today based on a previous (but closed) thread about him. Before I say anything I want to acknowledge: a) In the YMMV world, I know that I typically won't get good mileage. b) Rene was really kind, polite, and I really like him and his tone - in person and in messaging. c) Therapeutically, this is one of my favorite massages in LA area. So, I reached out to him, he was friendly and prompt, and gave 2 90 minute options - $300 for therapeutic, $400 sensual. In spite of the price being what I felt to be steep, I decided to go for it based on the reviews on this site. He was running late for our initial scheduled time (I had to drive out 1.5 hours to see him), but it seemed like it would be worth it. When I arrived, super kind, super friendly, again, I almost feel guilty writing all this. We begin the massage, and well, I'm draped, which I wasn't expecting, but thought, no problem. He was fully clothed, so I thought, maybe it's something that we warm up into in the sensual department, given that I'm expecting to pay $400. During the massage, he was usually positioning to be out of reach, but it seemed like it was mixed messages, so wasn't sure where things were going. I'm not a grabber, so I just respected what seemed like the boundaries he was creating. Before long, he said "well, take the time you need to get dressed". Usually I don't say anything, even if I don't like how something went, but this time I had to, I said, "Oh, is there no happy ending?" I felt stupid saying it and feel dumber writing it. But I wanted to point out the discrepancy somehow. Again, he was so polite, and he said, "Oh, I don't do that anymore, I'm engaged now." So I asked if it would be charging a different rate. He said he'd take $300. To be fair, he looked like he felt bad about it, and said "How would you like your happy ending?”, but obviously I felt awful at that point and politely declined. Now, i doubt he didn't know about his limitations as an engaged person before we started messaging and he gave me the options, but I didn't think about that until after. I just assumed that it's a new thing and sucks to be me. Now, after thinking about it, it seems strange to me that he didn't know that before we agreed on a time. It also makes me feel even worse, that I'm apparently so ugly that even a mechanical HE wasn't worth it. Once again - I feel badly about saying anything "negative", because sincerely, there are people who come off as douchebags, but nothing about him rubs me that way. I thought he was so kind, and even handled the confrontation so kindly. But $300/90 minutes for what I think most people on here would consider a purely therapeutic session (he occasionally leaned in so that you felt part of his leg or groin but that was it), and with what was communicated by message, this was a major let-down. Just thought I'd post the experience for you guys on here. Great therapeutic session, though. 🤷‍♂️

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FrankieCuddles - Male Massage & Bodywork in Los Angeles, CA | RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM Gay Masseur FrankieCuddles in Los Angeles, CA offering a wide range of massages ⭐ experienced in therapeutic, sensual, swedish, hotStone, deepTissue. I did a search and found an old forum that expired, and there also wasn’t a lot of actual experience referenced. Any recent experience with him?

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Me, too about the plunge and not recommending. Save the $$$. Upsell, time shortage, and poor quality everything.

Thank yoU!

Agree- wouldn’t hire for massage, almost non-existent. Extras - for me it was an upsell during the session. I paid more than initial agreement and the massage was significantly shortened. THought he was a decent person but woulnd’t repeat, especially for hte price.

It might be that he does this so that he can choose how interactive it is without committing? I know I’m not someone who’s very attractive so my mileage isn’t usually far, and I assumed more was going to happen at that rate than what did. He’s stunningly beautiful though.

Also - I was offered only two options: Therapeutic (200/hr) Sensual (300/hr) There was no extras menu.

Unfortunately this was not the case for me, and I paid a very high price (escort rates). He was clothed until the last fifteen minutes and very little interactivity until then. Very kind, very gracious, but $400/90 minutes for that is not something I’d repeat.

This is similar to my experience and outlook - except that I do think he’s gorgeous, and I did have sessions with real chemistry. I’ve always said that Shane in person was really nice, Shane leading up to the session was hit or miss (with tone). I am not someone who has ever hailed a racist card (only once or twice in my life have I suspected that that might really be going on), but I questioned with Shane if that was part of it, but can’t assert it. I’m just confused because the ghosting started after having several what I thought were great sessions, and not a single negative conversation or experience. I had started seeing him when he was relatively new on rentmasseur, and I witnessed first hand the difference in rates from session to session, and he would forget what he charged me for the same thing and get a little flustered (I always just gave what he asked and he was happy). When I referred some people to him from here (he didn’t know I referred them) he charged them completely different rates both from one another and to me. I kept going because when I went, I found him really nice and less awkward with the sensual part over time. When the flaking became regular, especially the day of a visit (and the lying became clear) I was discouraged, culminating in what I described in other posts.

Just wondering if anyone’s got any recent experience - we’ve got an ‘okay’ experience and a great experience.

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Hey, surprised not to find anything since he’s been on rentmasseur a few years, maybe different name? RubiconTouch - Male Massage & Bodywork in Palm Springs, CA | RentMasseur RENTMASSEUR.COM Gay Masseur RubiconTouch in Palm Springs, CA offering a wide range of massages ⭐ experienced in therapeutic, sensual, swedish, hotStone, deepTissue.

COuld you share what the rate is for non-mutual nude? Thanks for getting back to us @runelynx!

Any intel on this man? He’s usually in LA/West Hollywood.

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So I couldn’t get the itch to see Rukenny out of my system. So, against all advice from the forum that I usually heed, and with a voice in my head saying, ‘why would you book this guy given what you read’, I saw him. I’ve gotta say, I thought it was a really good session. I don’t know if it’s because I thought it was going ot be so bad that it was better than expected, but I thought it was a great session and would repeat. His therapeutic skills are not bad, and the sensuality build-up was really well done. So, maybe the reviews had an impact on him, but, regardless, I wanted to be a voice saying my experiene was positive. I also wonder if some of the comments about ‘rudeness’ might be a language barrier.

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Basically his normal ‘sensual’ rate, is extremely high geven the level of sensuality (I’m comparing to the subjective ‘norm’). I don’t think his rate for sensuality is a reasonable rate or that it’s so good that it makes up for the price gap. For me, I would go to him when I want a really good therapeutic experience. I will like the sensuality part, too, but I’d be liking it knowing that I’m accepting to pay such a high rate not for the sensuality, but for the therapeutic. I think he just knows his clinical skills are really good and that that justifies his premium rates. So you need to just be deciding that you agree with the premium, essentially.

That's a tough question to answer with him. Basically his normal ‘sensual’ rate, is extremely high given the level of sensuality (I’m comparing to the subjective ‘norm’). I don’t think his rate for sensuality is a reasonable rate or that it’s so good that it makes up for the price gap. For me, I would go to him when I want a really good therapeutic experience. I will like the sensuality part, too, but I’d be liking it knowing that I’m accepting to pay such a high rate not for the sensuality, but only for the therapeutic. I think he just knows his clinical skills are really good and that that justifies his premium rates. So you need to just be deciding that you agree with the premium, essentially. I’d ask myself: is the therapeutic that good to pay that high for the whole package?