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That makes sense. Since you also know them well enough, you know what they would find agreeable. Also makes for more fun. They’ll be more comfortable

If you're still taking suggestions, a twerking competition or some other sort of butt show would be some nice red meat to throw us butt lovers😉 Who knows, you might just end up being a matchmaker haha!

Sounds like a jolly good time! Wish I was there, but certainly happy that there will (hopefully) be a recording of the activities. Can't wait to see the list 😃

Very good looking guy, and I'd love to hear more too. I was recently burned by a similar profile of a middle eastern transplant that turned out to be a scam, so I'm trying to be extra cautious.

Thank you. $400 is steep for sure, but if he's worth it, why not? I like his OF too

Also wondering what "a lot more" means. He's very attractive! Since you and him have history, maybe let him know that he didn't put a phone number in his profile on RM, so we can't reach him

He's really good looking. Does he do more than just lap dances? Seems a lot of the adonis guys are going this route because of the lockdown

He's really good looking. Does he do more than just lap dances? Seems a lot of the adonis guys are going this route because of the lockdown

Thank you for the recap. Sounds like it was a somewhat bittersweet Holiday weekend for you, @Coolwave35. Might be better to focus on the fun you had, rather than some of the unfortunate moments that underlined that, and at the end of the day, this is business for most of them. It seems like some of the guys here have been doing this for a bit (you as well), but we all can get caught up by a beautiful man smiling at you. I bet COVID was a huge reason people didn't show up. It will be interesting to see how Adonis moves forward now that they have an OnlyFans account, they won't be doing AVN anymore, AND no clubs will be opened in NYC for the next, say, 3-5 months. I have a feeling they will do this monthly, and maybe have some sort of deal linking it more closely with OF. Thanks again for your recap. Always appreciated, and feel better soon! I know you're probably still a bit in your feels. *hugs* Did anyone else go? Thoughts?

Does anyone remember Calvin? I still find myself having a few days of obsession with him. My absolute fave of the SC guys:

Not to be combative, but what makes you think that's the case all the time? I think it's perfectly possible, but I also think any relationship that begins with money/access/items/etc. in exchange for time has an inherent imbalance that, to me, seems unfulfilling and unsustainable unless addressed honestly.

Wow. That's quite a story, and I'm sorry to hear that "something" caught him. I think sometimes we forget some of the precarious situations providers can find themselves in. The work isn't easy, and it's easy to stray... Has that relationship impacted how you handle relations with other providers?

Oh. Forgot to leave Nico's OF: https://onlyfans.com/xonicobaby

He has an OnlyFans account, so you might be better off asking the source I wanted to see last week's show, but missed it. It seems like a lot of the west coast guys appear, but I rarely see dancers based in the NYC area. I think though I've seen some of the guys that work in Long Island and in ATL/FL. Have any of the guys from MTL showed up? Also curious to hear when they think they can reopen in-persons again. I actually think businesses like this are sort of recession-proof, even with a pandemic.

I think what's being shown as a real boon for indoor anything is ventilation: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-spread-building-ventilation-covid-19-study/ The more places do that, the more places of all kinds will open. What I think will be interesting will be the hours of operation. Having a strip club closing at 10, 11, or even 12 midnight would put it in competition with other establishments because you won't be able to go to the movies AND go to the strip club the same night (for example). I also wonder about social distancing. Some places (Like Buff Daddy in Long Island) have the space, but other places probably won't, at least to have the right amount of guys for patrons/right amount of guys for dancers for it to be worthwhile. I think when they all come back though, they will be getting business. Like Buff Daddy said, people are tired of being home (and untouched).

Wow. Props to you! All those guys probably don't come cheap, but I'm sure quarantine has left you hungry I've been somewhat bummed by the fact that many of the performers on the AVN weeklies aren't dancers that one would usually see at the venues, though I guess that also depends on the dancers' living situations right now. If and when Adonis does open back up, I suspect there will be more dancers as well as more patrons. Funny how that works.

I have been in situations like this more than once. I've now made my expectations match the frequency of this, so I assume that, out of 10, a photo of a guy is how he looks "+2." I'm usually right because performers will take a photo when they're at their absolute best, and no one can look like that 24/7. If the guy is really off from his photo, I leave. You just out and out lied to me, and if we're going to do intimate things, some foundation of trust is important to me. If he's only slightly off, I generally still leave. You'll never see him again, he knows nothing about you, and only you two shared those messages and the reveal/let-down. You also have to think that you'll be paying money if you go through with it. Are you ok with giving him pity money? FOr absolute strangers, more often than not it's a "no." If he's better than the photos, he might just see me again, if he has a good follow-through...

I have been in situations like this more than once. I've now made my expectations match the frequency of this, so I assume that, out of 10, a photo of a guy is how he looks "+2." I'm usually right because performers will take a photo when they're at their absolute best, and no one can look like that 24/7. If the guy is really off from his photo, I leave. You just out and out lied to me, and if we're going to do intimate things, some foundation of trust is important to me. If he's only slightly off, I generally still leave. You'll never see him again, he knows nothing about you, and only you two shared those messages and the reveal/let-down. You also have to think that you'll be paying money if you go through with it. Are you ok with giving him pity money? FOr absolute strangers, more often than not it's a "no." If he's better than the photos, he might just see me again, if he has a good follow-through...

Was going to ask the same thing. He looks like he has quite the booty. Piqued my interest...

What was the result? Have you ever fallen for a client/provider? How did the other side handle it? Any lessons learned/interesting story? Consistently seeing the same person and being intimate with that person may understandably lead to blurred lines. How did you handle that? Thanks

For a few years now, I've had an on/off attraction to this guy: As an ass guy, it's hard to beat his. He has an OnlyFans, which I've subscribed to on/off, but he goes through spurts where he'll post every other day and then nothing for weeks. He also seems to be a bit all over the place and a bit scatterbrained. Still, I've seen him on other sites and he's even appeared in a gay movie. He's not gay though, and while his ass is and (along with his face) his best feature, he's pretty cagey about anything going on there. Does anyone know if he's available for any private time? If not, anyone know where I can find more of his work? I'm back to being "on" again for him, hehe.

Obviously, there are people who fulfill the stereotype of the "fucked up" sex worker, and there are others that do not. I think both sides are trying to make this black and white. I think there is a large plurality of male providers who are straight. I wouldn't be surprised if it were actually the majority. We can get into what defines someone as "straight" or not, but that's probably a different topic. Point is, having to do gay "stuff" with someone you don't want will have an impact on you in the same way having to do something at your job for a living that you don't want to do would have an impact. I'm not an old "grandpa." I'm under 30 and have paid for providers since I was about 21 for a variety of reasons (one being how intimidating and downright mean younger gays can be). Providers are usually surprised by my age and build and oftentimes joke that they thought I would be "an old white guy." That leads me to believe many clients are indeed "old white guys." They don't say it as a bad thing necessarily, but to be honest, in our society, older white men are those that tend to have the disposable income to pay for services. As far as mental health for providers, I've met many different kinds. If I were to pull a description out of a hat though of a hustler I've met I would say generally he: Is straight, but wouldn't mind topping necessarily (not without viagra) Has a lot of restrictions Does not have a lot of prospects Needs quick money like NOW Uses drugs of some kind. Not hard drugs, but likely some sort of medication for something, which generally compounds their predicament because pills are expensive but they need it in part to "chill out" after having to come to the realization that at the end of the day, they're allowing nameless men to play with them by the hour. I have nothing against providers. I used to be one lol. There are some who you can go all the way with, others with lots of hangups, still more who need to numb the pain of their life choices, and others who might just be your soulmates. Someone upthread also tried to delineate between hustlers, rentboys, prostitutes, sex workers, and providers. I think that's absolutely necessary.

A few months ago I signed up for his OF account, and felt really robbed. Nothing was there that wasn't on Instagram, Tumblr, etc. I'm not into penis so I didn't need that, but he was even cagey about profile butt pics. I was totally over it. Still though, I noticed that he was (is? don't follow him anymore) setting up a sort of personal trainer academy with other pretty boys, instamodels, etc. I signed up for a consultation and actually got a video conference with one of them. He wasn't the one I liked, but I got the feeling that it was more than just personal training. I would have pursued further, but the guy I was speaking to wasn't my type, the fees were , it was unclear how I could "switch out" a trainer without pissing someone off, and because everything was subtle, it was hard for me to confirm I was getting what I thought it was without me being vulgar and sullying the conversation. I was also highly annoyed and distrustful of Nick's endeavours after signing up for his unremarkable OnlyFans, and was weary of throwing money again at a "maybe" project of his. I still think about that though, and wonder if it was what I thought/hoped it was. Sure seemed like it. I can't remember for the life of me the program or website though...Damn.

A few months ago I signed up for his OF account, and felt really robbed. Nothing was there that wasn't on Instagram, Tumblr, etc. I'm not into penis so I didn't need that, but he was even cagey about profile butt pics. I was totally over it. Still though, I noticed that he was (is? don't follow him anymore) setting up a sort of personal trainer academy with other pretty boys, instamodels, etc. I signed up for a consultation and actually got a video conference with one of them. He wasn't the one I liked, but I got the feeling that it was more than just personal training. I would have pursued further, but the guy I was speaking to wasn't my type, the fees were , it was unclear how I could "switch out" a trainer without pissing someone off, and because everything was subtle, it was hard for me to confirm I was getting what I thought it was without me being vulgar and sullying the conversation. I was also highly annoyed and distrustful of Nick's endeavours after signing up for his unremarkable OnlyFans, and was weary of throwing money again at a "maybe" project of his. I still think about that though, and wonder if it was what I thought/hoped it was. Sure seemed like it. I can't remember for the life of me the program or website though...Damn.

Don't want to pile on you here, but... Just anecdotally, I have met in person one AAGuy who was a "flexible" stripper, two others who do cam work very discreetly, and another 2 I'm pretty sure I've seen in porn. None of this necessarily mean they escort, but they're working in very adjacent industries, are paid strictly on how they look constantly, and are for sure propositioned all the time. Eventually, someone will bite, especially for the right price. Some photographers are also not as professional as you seem to be. There are some really aggressive photographers and some really cash-strapped, smoking hot guys. Sometimes they come together strictly professionally, other times not so much. Perfectly said. To many men who can afford to have a roster of escorts or be able to afford easily an arrangement, the ideal is to have a guy who is discreet in public and available in private. Escorting for guys like those at those parties are rarely cut-and-dry: neither party explicitly states the rules of the game, that would be seen as uncomfortable and awkward. "Mutual benefits were readily understood." SO TRUE!