MidwestCoastal

You SERIOUSLY need to meet more vegans! We're INTELLIGENT omnivores.... which means we can use logic and intelligence to make decisions unlike animals who can't.

Game Changer on Netflix made me a 98% convert to veganism... I leave myself open to having a grass-fed, free range steak in the future, but I don't miss animal protein after almost 5 months on the vegan train. (Beyond Burgers/Meat... AMAZING!) Chicken, turkey, even pork, I think are rather bland meats anyway. The spices and preparation often make those meats delicious. Those same spices can make tempeh amazing... (try taco meat seasoning with veggie proteins). I wouldn't say I'm a vegan zealot, but I lost 15 pounds in weight and blood pressure has vastly improved after a rough year of only light exercise because of a spat of injuries. You don't need animal proteins as a major diet component; science proves that. Politically, I feel meat is bad for the environment and meat as a major portion of daily meals won't be sustainable long term - we can't use land to grow food to feed other food to feed us hence why we don't eat/domestic carnivores as a regular dietary staple which is growing food to feed food to feed to other food to feed us! Oil won't be the next war creator; it will be potable water and farmable land. Meat 'farms' are just repulsive and disgusting. More people would probably abandon meat if they saw where it actually comes from and the conditions those animals are subjected to. I HIGHLY encourage you to embrace veganism as a foundation of your diet, but feel free to leave your options open for some old school farming animal protien! Try Veestro.com or PurpleCarrot.com for a few weeks if you need help with recipes and meals. Another great show on Netflix is 'Cooked' by Michael Pollan (author of another great book - The Botany of Desire). There is a woman in the first episode "Fire" who raises pigs in a more natural setting and more 'ethically' for meat. If I do eat meat every now and then, I will always try to buy meat produced from a farmer like her!

<sigh> Guess it's a pass for me given all the drama from the past.... Just really hard to find guys in Philly sometimes! Thank you to all who provided feedback. As always, greatly appreciate you and this forum.

This is about degrees of risk, what risk you are willing to take, and the trust level you have in a provider. I have a provider I have seen regularly for four years. I trust him. The COVID reality is that this could be with us FOREVER. Vaccines may not work beyond a few months. Just because you had it once doesn't necessarily mean you can't/won't catch it again. We're all going to have to come out of our caves at some point. Some will do it sooner than others.

Wow.... if he's fat, I'd hate to think what you would call me! Has anyone actually taken a plunge? Is it really 9"?

https://rent.men/THEOHOT Searched 3 of the pics using Google Reverse Image Search and TinEye no matches on social media sites or any site.

I have a regular weekend buddy who I see about one weekend per month. Not sure we will be able to continue this cadence in the new COVID world because he is in NYC and I have an apartment in Philly that I will be vacating in early September. My 'relationship' with him is more akin to Friends w/ Benefits - we enjoy watching movies/binge series together, playing video games, ordering great food in, getting stoned together, and just really good sexual chemistry. He's not very affectionate, we don't cuddle.... we've both had some rough patches in life for the last 4 years we have been seeing each other and we are good listeners for one another. I started seeing another guy who was more like a BFE....affection, cuddling, great sex.....who I started seeing more and more.... and suddenly it was.... buy me a new phone, buy me a new computer, buy me new clothes..... Long term BFE providers may expect something more akin to being 'kept situation' and sometimes as much as I do wish I could afford that, I can't. I had a serious crush on the guy and he just was fucking me and acting like my BF for the money.... and mentally, I just couldn't handle it. I would not entertain another 'weekender' at this point and will make any other provider 'all about the sex' and position it to them as such. Per everyone else's thoughts - I share in the belief, you need to mentally frame any 'on-going relationship' with a provider with some boundaries in your own head ideally so that you won't end up down or depressed. For me, I get a little sad because what I want is more 'good sex' and the companionship. If I can't find the companionship from a lover/partner, then I will get that from friends and keep my 'chemistry FwB guy' for the sexual needs. I don't want to give up what great sex I am having! I'm currently quarantining in the VERY rural south with family..... there are ZERO provider prospects here..... heading back to Philly in August and already have a 4 day/3 night weekend planned with the FwB guy! Hang in there and feel free to reach out if you want to chat with someone about how you are feeling.

I'm on the waiting list for a....

Oh the irony.... And again.... you prove the point perfectly. "Most guys are attracted to guys that are hot. (Smooth skin, beautiful bodies, beautiful faces).... " You have basically just said that hairy guys with average bodies, and imperfect teeth will never be hot..... Thanks for YOUR OPINION! I don't share it. Where did your definitions of 'hot' come from? Smooth skin? 'Beautiful bodies' = Thin and muscular? Beautiful faces? Based on what? I don't even know where to start with that one. - These are ALL subjective and qualitative. What is 'nature' and what is 'nurture'? As an example hairy versus smooth in the gay community has flip-flopped in all directions over the decades. The 'smooth muscular body' crowd tends to be from the circuit scene, Chelsea NYC crowd; Provincetown Bear Week attendees would vehemently disagree with you. To the point of other posters, the 'gay white men' are more attractive thing has the same roots in historical learned biases. It has been taught and ingrained in culture for decades and we are all somewhat products of that history. You can't selectively say that 'white is beautiful' is wrong, without acknowledging that other forms of discrimination exist. To bring this thread back to the spirit of the original post.... As an example, if a provider accepts an appointment from a perspective bottom client and then proceeds to show up and can't get an erection and can't perform as a top, should they still expect payment? Think carefully before you respond to the question I pose above.

Oh the irony and perfect demonstration of when discrimination is 'acceptable' versus not. I applaud @Unicorn showing us his version of men we should want to ravage, but looking at the many pics he has posted, it would seem to imply that only thin and muscular men are worthy of desire. Bottom line.... we're all human beings - customers and service provides alike - with different tastes and preferences on what 'gets us off'. If your goal is for both sides to 'get off' then you can't discount our human condition. Providers who are open to more races, positions, and activities will have a larger customer pool, those who don't will have a smaller customer pool. Same with customers who are more open, they will have more choices.

I would definitely recommend being open and upfront about any thing you have concerns about. For example, I am average shape with a gut. I always share with a potential provider that I am self-conscious that my body will turn them off. Some have chosen to pass, others have given me reassurance. I wouldn't want to show up expecting a certain experience and then be rejected or subjected to a 'pity fuck' where its obvious he just wants to get off/get me off and get the hell out. You will both be happier if you agree up front on a pleasing experience. Yes, agree with the sentiment that 'discrimination is not cool', but candidly, as 'customers' of service providers, we are discriminating against them all the time - top, bottom, cut, uncut, hairy, twink, bear, muscle, age, height, dick size, tattoos, etc, etc. The nature of service search choices (like RM) is discrimination. I don't want to say turnabout is 'fair play' but it is the nature of the service we are engaging in. Men can't easily fake it with a limp dick, especially if they are a top. We don't live in an ideal world and we all should try to navigate our way to happiness, so I would advise being direct about what you want and who you are. Then use reviews and this forum to call out bad behavior. Just my opinion of course.

Trying to set something up at the end of August in Philly as I am now quarantining in the very rural south for the summer.....gods help me. I will be 'starving' by that point and he looks like more than a mouthful. Would appreciate any feedback between now and then if anyone in NYC has taken the plunge with Jack already.

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Bump.... Anyone ever meet him? I think he went on sabbatical for a bit.... appears to be back!!

After a 3 month forced hiatus, I'm back if you would like more details.

And if that is 18 months?

WOW....seriously!? Sign me up... although the 'hiring freeze' might make it difficult as I'm coming up from Philly. And thank you for taking one for the team.

Bump.... did anyone take one for the team yet?

https://rent.men/Masc_spinner

Day 3.5 working from home.... and we're going to be working from home until, at a minimum, mid-April..... my Fortune 50 company is doing a decent job with support functions..... but everyone is freaked out and stressed out..... people with kids, especially small kids, look just haggard on every video conference call. The urban grocery stores are Soviet scary with no bread, no pasta, no rice, no meat, limited dairy, limited canned foods..... still decent fresh fruit and veggies..... Amazon, Fresh Direct, and Instacart have no deliveries unless you order 4-5 days out. I have 1%-er guilt.... I miss my delivery services, laundry service, cleaning service, and service services. I definitely now understand how ridiculously privileged I am when I look at what millions of Americans are facing - 20% unemployment!? I'm worried if the economy tanks beyond the summer, my group may be hit with layoffs. The biggest question I'm facing - Should I buy a Peloton? I just got into a semi-good groove with diet and starting to workout again and now literally no options. My 76yo mother is fine; my sister is having a nervous breakdown having to home school the kids. I have got to stop watching the news. I'm depressed that I am single and alone. Any gamers out there? I wouldn't mind a gaming buddy or buddies.

I find that providers that are willing to engage in longer than usual exchanges via email or text is a good first indicator of potential chemistry. Be upfront about what you want and your reservations about having someone you don't know for a weekend visit. Graduate to phone calls or video chat to seal the deal. I have offered a couple hundred bucks to chat with someone after a few email/texting sessions as long as I can apply that to the weekend visit. No one accepted and they were still willing to have the conversation anyway. I've only 'blind weekend hired' three times, but everyone was awesome using the method above!

As long as the dick pic is accurate.... rest of it is gravy for me!

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Bump.... https://rent.men/joaohung - Coming to Philly.

Not really into a 'Daddy' vibe... but just the thought of getting used to satisfy/gratify a younger guy... definitely pushes a few buttons.