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I'll file this as "sort of unexpected after the first time"...
 
I got a recommendation from a fellow forum member on a guy who used to be at a local spa that caters mostly to guys and has a male massage team (located in one of the city's gay neighborhoods), but is a legit spa. My friend heard that masseur that he had some action with, but was likely a very YMMV situation, was somewhere out in the burbs now, so since I'm in the burbs, I decided to investigate. I found the masseur at a normal spa (hair, nails, etc) not too far off the path between home and work. Booked an appointment, and the first massage was a solid technical massage, with not even a hint of anything more. Although when I was saying good by, I glanced down and spotted a pretty decent bulge on the guy, and he may have noticed!
 
A month went by, and my shoulder/back were pretty sore and tight, so decided to go back in, expecting just a good massage. First half was pretty normal has he hit my back and legs, maybe a little more glute work that the first meeting. but as he started to work up to my shoulder again, his leg was definitely pressed against me arm, that was hanging to the side. As he sort of worked around the top of the table to my other shoulder, I felt him press against my other arm, and it definitely wasn't his leg I felt. I have to admit, I was excited, but also pretty nervous in the setting. My heart was pounding as it all sort of started to register.
 
He kept the (good) massage going working my shoulders and back, but now his hands were sliding under the draping to my ass cheeks frequently until his hands were sliding right into my crack and against my hole. As he was transitioning down to my legs, I felt him take the sheet from my feet and slide it down the length of me so i was totally undraping. The feeling of that sheet sliding down me was so hot. from there, he continued to do leg work, sliding up to my ass. At one point, he positioned one leg so the sole of my foot was against the opposite knee, sort of a 4 shape. from there, he had clear access to my balls and ass, even sliding under to my rock hard dick. He did that routine on both sides, really giving a full massage that had become extremely erotic. Just as I thought he was wrapping up my legs, I felt him bury his scruffy face between my cheeks. He rimmed me like a champ, and you can tell he loves doing it. Finally he said, "let's flip you over."
 
I did, naked and rock hard, obviously. He was too...at some point he had slid out of his clothes! Handsome, hairy guy...not a muscle bod by any stretch, more of an everyday build (but I dig the guy next door vibe more). From there, he massaged my legs a bit more, stroking my cock and eventually leaning over and sucking it. I eventually busted a huge load, and then reached over and stroked his dick until he shot a hot load, first clear across the table (and me), and the rest all over my chest.
 
I saw him a few more times before lockdown. He's left that spa, but my eyes are definitely open to see where he pops back up when we're all through this!

I can't argue with that, but it can still be a good time, albeit a little different. I think the key there is to get a sense of the guy outside of the private. I've had guys give me some pretty lame dances back there. But, I've had some pretty damn fun times too. In my experience, you're at a strip club because that's where you want to be, so make the best of it and find a guy you mesh with before splashing out the cash. I usually start the night there with a pocket full of cash and no expectations and see where the night (or the backroom) takes me.

I can't argue with that, but it can still be a good time, albeit a little different. I think the key there is to get a sense of the guy outside of the private. I've had guys give me some pretty lame dances back there. But, I've had some pretty damn fun times too. In my experience, you're at a strip club because that's where you want to be, so make the best of it and find a guy you mesh with before splashing out the cash. I usually start the night there with a pocket full of cash and no expectations and see where the night (or the backroom) takes me.

I can't argue with that, but it can still be a good time, albeit a little different. I think the key there is to get a sense of the guy outside of the private. I've had guys give me some pretty lame dances back there. But, I've had some pretty damn fun times too. In my experience, you're at a strip club because that's where you want to be, so make the best of it and find a guy you mesh with before splashing out the cash. I usually start the night there with a pocket full of cash and no expectations and see where the night (or the backroom) takes me.

I'd say the VIP room is worth it, and the private dance more so. Of course, it all depends on the dancer. And the private dances are pricey...I think it's about $40 to the house, then $100 for 15 mins to the dancer.

I'd say the VIP room is worth it, and the private dance more so. Of course, it all depends on the dancer. And the private dances are pricey...I think it's about $40 to the house, then $100 for 15 mins to the dancer.

I'll file this as "sort of unexpected after the first time"...
 
I got a recommendation from a fellow forum member on a guy who used to be at a local spa that caters mostly to guys and has a male massage team (located in one of the city's gay neighborhoods), but is a legit spa. My friend heard that masseur that he had some action with, but was likely a very YMMV situation, was somewhere out in the burbs now, so since I'm in the burbs, I decided to investigate. I found the masseur at a normal spa (hair, nails, etc) not too far off the path between home and work. Booked an appointment, and the first massage was a solid technical massage, with not even a hint of anything more. Although when I was saying good by, I glanced down and spotted a pretty decent bulge on the guy, and he may have noticed!
 
A month went by, and my shoulder/back were pretty sore and tight, so decided to go back in, expecting just a good massage. First half was pretty normal has he hit my back and legs, maybe a little more glute work that the first meeting. but as he started to work up to my shoulder again, his leg was definitely pressed against me arm, that was hanging to the side. As he sort of worked around the top of the table to my other shoulder, I felt him press against my other arm, and it definitely wasn't his leg I felt. I have to admit, I was excited, but also pretty nervous in the setting. My heart was pounding as it all sort of started to register.
 
He kept the (good) massage going working my shoulders and back, but now his hands were sliding under the draping to my ass cheeks frequently until his hands were sliding right into my crack and against my hole. As he was transitioning down to my legs, I felt him take the sheet from my feet and slide it down the length of me so i was totally undraping. The feeling of that sheet sliding down me was so hot. from there, he continued to do leg work, sliding up to my ass. At one point, he positioned one leg so the sole of my foot was against the opposite knee, sort of a 4 shape. from there, he had clear access to my balls and ass, even sliding under to my rock hard dick. He did that routine on both sides, really giving a full massage that had become extremely erotic. Just as I thought he was wrapping up my legs, I felt him bury his scruffy face between my cheeks. He rimmed me like a champ, and you can tell he loves doing it. Finally he said, "let's flip you over."
 
I did, naked and rock hard, obviously. He was too...at some point he had slid out of his clothes! Handsome, hairy guy...not a muscle bod by any stretch, more of an everyday build (but I dig the guy next door vibe more). From there, he massaged my legs a bit more, stroking my cock and eventually leaning over and sucking it. I eventually busted a huge load, and then reached over and stroked his dick until he shot a hot load, first clear across the table (and me), and the rest all over my chest.
 
I saw him a few more times before lockdown. He's left that spa, but my eyes are definitely open to see where he pops back up when we're all through this!

Have an appointment tomorrow with Antonio.

There are. The benefit of the Costco site (with membership) was that it essentially made offers from different lenders based on your inputs, that included rates, points, and closing costs. I believe lending tree works the same.it can be a good compare/contrast tool. Good luck!

Good luck...feel free to ask questions or PM. Not really a loan expert, but do work in Finance/Accounting so have a general understanding of this stuff.
 
If you do want to do a comparison when you get more info from your lender, Excel has a mortgage loan calculator template (at least mine does) when you open the program and select "New". If you do it for your existing loan based on its original term and your new loan, you can compare the future interest on your old loan to the total interest + cost on your new loan, and that should tell you if you're better or worse off.

Good luck...feel free to ask questions or PM. Not really a loan expert, but do work in Finance/Accounting so have a general understanding of this stuff.
 
If you do want to do a comparison when you get more info from your lender, Excel has a mortgage loan calculator template (at least mine does) when you open the program and select "New". If you do it for your existing loan based on its original term and your new loan, you can compare the future interest on your old loan to the total interest + cost on your new loan, and that should tell you if you're better or worse off.

I think the cap on lender costs of $250 is probably a good deal. The other fees should be in line with what is listed on that Lending Tree Link. Items that you have to pay into escrow are things you'd pay anyway and aren't really fees/costs associated with the refi (real estate taxes, possibly homeowners insurance and/or mortgage insurance). If you have a balance in your existing escrow account, that should transfer over or be refunded. There may be other transfer type taxes (but your not changing ownership), but again, that shouldn't be dependent on the lender.
 
As for the last disclaimer, I would assume they would be more situational type expenses, and not assessed by the lender directly, but it should be clear in the estimate before you go too far. I recall getting a similar deal, and I didn't get any surprises in the end.

There are. The benefit of the Costco site (with membership) was that it essentially made offers from different lenders based on your inputs, that included rates, points, and closing costs. I believe lending tree works the same.it can be a good compare/contrast tool. Good luck!

I found this page on Lending Tree which I found to be useful. https://www.lendingtree.com/home/refinance/mortgage-refinance-closing-costs/
 
I have to say, my eyebrows were raised when you started talking about differences in cost of $8,000 when the high end of the average refi costs for the nation is around $5800. Some of that may have to do with required real estate tax/escrow balances (which aren't really closing costs) or points to pay down the rate. Of course, if you have a jumbo/large loan, the underwriting fee may vary quite a bit.
 
If you scroll own on the page I linked to above, there are some helpful hints as well as a list of typical costs and what you should expect to pay.
 
Strangely enough, the last time I got a new mortgage (2013), I actually went through Costco! With the membership, they had a Lending Tree type arrangement where you could see many lenders and their offers. In fact, I think I spent an extra $50 for a higher membership and got an even better deal. Seems strange, but it was basically just a portal to lenders, and worked out very well.

Also...it may go without saying, but if you're considering an adjustable rate, make sure you fully understand the mechanics of that loan (when it resets, how much it can change, how often it changes, etc). If you're going to be in the place for the foreseeable future, i can't see a reason to do an adjustable rate given where rates are these days, but I've seen people get into adjustable rates without really understanding what to expect.

Also...it may go without saying, but if you're considering an adjustable rate, make sure you fully understand the mechanics of that loan (when it resets, how much it can change, how often it changes, etc). If you're going to be in the place for the foreseeable future, i can't see a reason to do an adjustable rate given where rates are these days, but I've seen people get into adjustable rates without really understanding what to expect.

I'll file this as "sort of unexpected after the first time"...
 
I got a recommendation from a fellow forum member on a guy who used to be at a local spa that caters mostly to guys and has a male massage team (located in one of the city's gay neighborhoods), but is a legit spa. My friend heard that masseur that he had some action with, but was likely a very YMMV situation, was somewhere out in the burbs now, so since I'm in the burbs, I decided to investigate. I found the masseur at a normal spa (hair, nails, etc) not too far off the path between home and work. Booked an appointment, and the first massage was a solid technical massage, with not even a hint of anything more. Although when I was saying good by, I glanced down and spotted a pretty decent bulge on the guy, and he may have noticed!
 
A month went by, and my shoulder/back were pretty sore and tight, so decided to go back in, expecting just a good massage. First half was pretty normal has he hit my back and legs, maybe a little more glute work that the first meeting. but as he started to work up to my shoulder again, his leg was definitely pressed against me arm, that was hanging to the side. As he sort of worked around the top of the table to my other shoulder, I felt him press against my other arm, and it definitely wasn't his leg I felt. I have to admit, I was excited, but also pretty nervous in the setting. My heart was pounding as it all sort of started to register.
 
He kept the (good) massage going working my shoulders and back, but now his hands were sliding under the draping to my ass cheeks frequently until his hands were sliding right into my crack and against my hole. As he was transitioning down to my legs, I felt him take the sheet from my feet and slide it down the length of me so i was totally undraping. The feeling of that sheet sliding down me was so hot. from there, he continued to do leg work, sliding up to my ass. At one point, he positioned one leg so the sole of my foot was against the opposite knee, sort of a 4 shape. from there, he had clear access to my balls and ass, even sliding under to my rock hard dick. He did that routine on both sides, really giving a full massage that had become extremely erotic. Just as I thought he was wrapping up my legs, I felt him bury his scruffy face between my cheeks. He rimmed me like a champ, and you can tell he loves doing it. Finally he said, "let's flip you over."
 
I did, naked and rock hard, obviously. He was too...at some point he had slid out of his clothes! Handsome, hairy guy...not a muscle bod by any stretch, more of an everyday build (but I dig the guy next door vibe more). From there, he massaged my legs a bit more, stroking my cock and eventually leaning over and sucking it. I eventually busted a huge load, and then reached over and stroked his dick until he shot a hot load, first clear across the table (and me), and the rest all over my chest.
 
I saw him a few more times before lockdown. He's left that spa, but my eyes are definitely open to see where he pops back up when we're all through this!

I'll file this as "sort of unexpected after the first time"...
 
I got a recommendation from a fellow forum member on a guy who used to be at a local spa that caters mostly to guys and has a male massage team (located in one of the city's gay neighborhoods), but is a legit spa. My friend heard that masseur that he had some action with, but was likely a very YMMV situation, was somewhere out in the burbs now, so since I'm in the burbs, I decided to investigate. I found the masseur at a normal spa (hair, nails, etc) not too far off the path between home and work. Booked an appointment, and the first massage was a solid technical massage, with not even a hint of anything more. Although when I was saying good by, I glanced down and spotted a pretty decent bulge on the guy, and he may have noticed!
 
A month went by, and my shoulder/back were pretty sore and tight, so decided to go back in, expecting just a good massage. First half was pretty normal has he hit my back and legs, maybe a little more glute work that the first meeting. but as he started to work up to my shoulder again, his leg was definitely pressed against me arm, that was hanging to the side. As he sort of worked around the top of the table to my other shoulder, I felt him press against my other arm, and it definitely wasn't his leg I felt. I have to admit, I was excited, but also pretty nervous in the setting. My heart was pounding as it all sort of started to register.
 
He kept the (good) massage going working my shoulders and back, but now his hands were sliding under the draping to my ass cheeks frequently until his hands were sliding right into my crack and against my hole. As he was transitioning down to my legs, I felt him take the sheet from my feet and slide it down the length of me so i was totally undraping. The feeling of that sheet sliding down me was so hot. from there, he continued to do leg work, sliding up to my ass. At one point, he positioned one leg so the sole of my foot was against the opposite knee, sort of a 4 shape. from there, he had clear access to my balls and ass, even sliding under to my rock hard dick. He did that routine on both sides, really giving a full massage that had become extremely erotic. Just as I thought he was wrapping up my legs, I felt him bury his scruffy face between my cheeks. He rimmed me like a champ, and you can tell he loves doing it. Finally he said, "let's flip you over."
 
I did, naked and rock hard, obviously. He was too...at some point he had slid out of his clothes! Handsome, hairy guy...not a muscle bod by any stretch, more of an everyday build (but I dig the guy next door vibe more). From there, he massaged my legs a bit more, stroking my cock and eventually leaning over and sucking it. I eventually busted a huge load, and then reached over and stroked his dick until he shot a hot load, first clear across the table (and me), and the rest all over my chest.
 
I saw him a few more times before lockdown. He's left that spa, but my eyes are definitely open to see where he pops back up when we're all through this!

I'll file this as "sort of unexpected after the first time"...
 
I got a recommendation from a fellow forum member on a guy who used to be at a local spa that caters mostly to guys and has a male massage team (located in one of the city's gay neighborhoods), but is a legit spa. My friend heard that masseur that he had some action with, but was likely a very YMMV situation, was somewhere out in the burbs now, so since I'm in the burbs, I decided to investigate. I found the masseur at a normal spa (hair, nails, etc) not too far off the path between home and work. Booked an appointment, and the first massage was a solid technical massage, with not even a hint of anything more. Although when I was saying good by, I glanced down and spotted a pretty decent bulge on the guy, and he may have noticed!
 
A month went by, and my shoulder/back were pretty sore and tight, so decided to go back in, expecting just a good massage. First half was pretty normal has he hit my back and legs, maybe a little more glute work that the first meeting. but as he started to work up to my shoulder again, his leg was definitely pressed against me arm, that was hanging to the side. As he sort of worked around the top of the table to my other shoulder, I felt him press against my other arm, and it definitely wasn't his leg I felt. I have to admit, I was excited, but also pretty nervous in the setting. My heart was pounding as it all sort of started to register.
 
He kept the (good) massage going working my shoulders and back, but now his hands were sliding under the draping to my ass cheeks frequently until his hands were sliding right into my crack and against my hole. As he was transitioning down to my legs, I felt him take the sheet from my feet and slide it down the length of me so i was totally undraping. The feeling of that sheet sliding down me was so hot. from there, he continued to do leg work, sliding up to my ass. At one point, he positioned one leg so the sole of my foot was against the opposite knee, sort of a 4 shape. from there, he had clear access to my balls and ass, even sliding under to my rock hard dick. He did that routine on both sides, really giving a full massage that had become extremely erotic. Just as I thought he was wrapping up my legs, I felt him bury his scruffy face between my cheeks. He rimmed me like a champ, and you can tell he loves doing it. Finally he said, "let's flip you over."
 
I did, naked and rock hard, obviously. He was too...at some point he had slid out of his clothes! Handsome, hairy guy...not a muscle bod by any stretch, more of an everyday build (but I dig the guy next door vibe more). From there, he massaged my legs a bit more, stroking my cock and eventually leaning over and sucking it. I eventually busted a huge load, and then reached over and stroked his dick until he shot a hot load, first clear across the table (and me), and the rest all over my chest.
 
I saw him a few more times before lockdown. He's left that spa, but my eyes are definitely open to see where he pops back up when we're all through this!

I'll file this as "sort of unexpected after the first time"...
 
I got a recommendation from a fellow forum member on a guy who used to be at a local spa that caters mostly to guys and has a male massage team (located in one of the city's gay neighborhoods), but is a legit spa. My friend heard that masseur that he had some action with, but was likely a very YMMV situation, was somewhere out in the burbs now, so since I'm in the burbs, I decided to investigate. I found the masseur at a normal spa (hair, nails, etc) not too far off the path between home and work. Booked an appointment, and the first massage was a solid technical massage, with not even a hint of anything more. Although when I was saying good by, I glanced down and spotted a pretty decent bulge on the guy, and he may have noticed!
 
A month went by, and my shoulder/back were pretty sore and tight, so decided to go back in, expecting just a good massage. First half was pretty normal has he hit my back and legs, maybe a little more glute work that the first meeting. but as he started to work up to my shoulder again, his leg was definitely pressed against me arm, that was hanging to the side. As he sort of worked around the top of the table to my other shoulder, I felt him press against my other arm, and it definitely wasn't his leg I felt. I have to admit, I was excited, but also pretty nervous in the setting. My heart was pounding as it all sort of started to register.
 
He kept the (good) massage going working my shoulders and back, but now his hands were sliding under the draping to my ass cheeks frequently until his hands were sliding right into my crack and against my hole. As he was transitioning down to my legs, I felt him take the sheet from my feet and slide it down the length of me so i was totally undraping. The feeling of that sheet sliding down me was so hot. from there, he continued to do leg work, sliding up to my ass. At one point, he positioned one leg so the sole of my foot was against the opposite knee, sort of a 4 shape. from there, he had clear access to my balls and ass, even sliding under to my rock hard dick. He did that routine on both sides, really giving a full massage that had become extremely erotic. Just as I thought he was wrapping up my legs, I felt him bury his scruffy face between my cheeks. He rimmed me like a champ, and you can tell he loves doing it. Finally he said, "let's flip you over."
 
I did, naked and rock hard, obviously. He was too...at some point he had slid out of his clothes! Handsome, hairy guy...not a muscle bod by any stretch, more of an everyday build (but I dig the guy next door vibe more). From there, he massaged my legs a bit more, stroking my cock and eventually leaning over and sucking it. I eventually busted a huge load, and then reached over and stroked his dick until he shot a hot load, first clear across the table (and me), and the rest all over my chest.
 
I saw him a few more times before lockdown. He's left that spa, but my eyes are definitely open to see where he pops back up when we're all through this!

I'll file this as "sort of unexpected after the first time"...
 
I got a recommendation from a fellow forum member on a guy who used to be at a local spa that caters mostly to guys and has a male massage team (located in one of the city's gay neighborhoods), but is a legit spa. My friend heard that masseur that he had some action with, but was likely a very YMMV situation, was somewhere out in the burbs now, so since I'm in the burbs, I decided to investigate. I found the masseur at a normal spa (hair, nails, etc) not too far off the path between home and work. Booked an appointment, and the first massage was a solid technical massage, with not even a hint of anything more. Although when I was saying good by, I glanced down and spotted a pretty decent bulge on the guy, and he may have noticed!
 
A month went by, and my shoulder/back were pretty sore and tight, so decided to go back in, expecting just a good massage. First half was pretty normal has he hit my back and legs, maybe a little more glute work that the first meeting. but as he started to work up to my shoulder again, his leg was definitely pressed against me arm, that was hanging to the side. As he sort of worked around the top of the table to my other shoulder, I felt him press against my other arm, and it definitely wasn't his leg I felt. I have to admit, I was excited, but also pretty nervous in the setting. My heart was pounding as it all sort of started to register.
 
He kept the (good) massage going working my shoulders and back, but now his hands were sliding under the draping to my ass cheeks frequently until his hands were sliding right into my crack and against my hole. As he was transitioning down to my legs, I felt him take the sheet from my feet and slide it down the length of me so i was totally undraping. The feeling of that sheet sliding down me was so hot. from there, he continued to do leg work, sliding up to my ass. At one point, he positioned one leg so the sole of my foot was against the opposite knee, sort of a 4 shape. from there, he had clear access to my balls and ass, even sliding under to my rock hard dick. He did that routine on both sides, really giving a full massage that had become extremely erotic. Just as I thought he was wrapping up my legs, I felt him bury his scruffy face between my cheeks. He rimmed me like a champ, and you can tell he loves doing it. Finally he said, "let's flip you over."
 
I did, naked and rock hard, obviously. He was too...at some point he had slid out of his clothes! Handsome, hairy guy...not a muscle bod by any stretch, more of an everyday build (but I dig the guy next door vibe more). From there, he massaged my legs a bit more, stroking my cock and eventually leaning over and sucking it. I eventually busted a huge load, and then reached over and stroked his dick until he shot a hot load, first clear across the table (and me), and the rest all over my chest.
 
I saw him a few more times before lockdown. He's left that spa, but my eyes are definitely open to see where he pops back up when we're all through this!

I'll file this as "sort of unexpected after the first time"...
 
I got a recommendation from a fellow forum member on a guy who used to be at a local spa that caters mostly to guys and has a male massage team (located in one of the city's gay neighborhoods), but is a legit spa. My friend heard that masseur that he had some action with, but was likely a very YMMV situation, was somewhere out in the burbs now, so since I'm in the burbs, I decided to investigate. I found the masseur at a normal spa (hair, nails, etc) not too far off the path between home and work. Booked an appointment, and the first massage was a solid technical massage, with not even a hint of anything more. Although when I was saying good by, I glanced down and spotted a pretty decent bulge on the guy, and he may have noticed!
 
A month went by, and my shoulder/back were pretty sore and tight, so decided to go back in, expecting just a good massage. First half was pretty normal has he hit my back and legs, maybe a little more glute work that the first meeting. but as he started to work up to my shoulder again, his leg was definitely pressed against me arm, that was hanging to the side. As he sort of worked around the top of the table to my other shoulder, I felt him press against my other arm, and it definitely wasn't his leg I felt. I have to admit, I was excited, but also pretty nervous in the setting. My heart was pounding as it all sort of started to register.
 
He kept the (good) massage going working my shoulders and back, but now his hands were sliding under the draping to my ass cheeks frequently until his hands were sliding right into my crack and against my hole. As he was transitioning down to my legs, I felt him take the sheet from my feet and slide it down the length of me so i was totally undraping. The feeling of that sheet sliding down me was so hot. from there, he continued to do leg work, sliding up to my ass. At one point, he positioned one leg so the sole of my foot was against the opposite knee, sort of a 4 shape. from there, he had clear access to my balls and ass, even sliding under to my rock hard dick. He did that routine on both sides, really giving a full massage that had become extremely erotic. Just as I thought he was wrapping up my legs, I felt him bury his scruffy face between my cheeks. He rimmed me like a champ, and you can tell he loves doing it. Finally he said, "let's flip you over."
 
I did, naked and rock hard, obviously. He was too...at some point he had slid out of his clothes! Handsome, hairy guy...not a muscle bod by any stretch, more of an everyday build (but I dig the guy next door vibe more). From there, he massaged my legs a bit more, stroking my cock and eventually leaning over and sucking it. I eventually busted a huge load, and then reached over and stroked his dick until he shot a hot load, first clear across the table (and me), and the rest all over my chest.
 
I saw him a few more times before lockdown. He's left that spa, but my eyes are definitely open to see where he pops back up when we're all through this!

I'll file this as "sort of unexpected after the first time"...
 
I got a recommendation from a fellow forum member on a guy who used to be at a local spa that caters mostly to guys and has a male massage team (located in one of the city's gay neighborhoods), but is a legit spa. My friend heard that masseur that he had some action with, but was likely a very YMMV situation, was somewhere out in the burbs now, so since I'm in the burbs, I decided to investigate. I found the masseur at a normal spa (hair, nails, etc) not too far off the path between home and work. Booked an appointment, and the first massage was a solid technical massage, with not even a hint of anything more. Although when I was saying good by, I glanced down and spotted a pretty decent bulge on the guy, and he may have noticed!
 
A month went by, and my shoulder/back were pretty sore and tight, so decided to go back in, expecting just a good massage. First half was pretty normal has he hit my back and legs, maybe a little more glute work that the first meeting. but as he started to work up to my shoulder again, his leg was definitely pressed against me arm, that was hanging to the side. As he sort of worked around the top of the table to my other shoulder, I felt him press against my other arm, and it definitely wasn't his leg I felt. I have to admit, I was excited, but also pretty nervous in the setting. My heart was pounding as it all sort of started to register.
 
He kept the (good) massage going working my shoulders and back, but now his hands were sliding under the draping to my ass cheeks frequently until his hands were sliding right into my crack and against my hole. As he was transitioning down to my legs, I felt him take the sheet from my feet and slide it down the length of me so i was totally undraping. The feeling of that sheet sliding down me was so hot. from there, he continued to do leg work, sliding up to my ass. At one point, he positioned one leg so the sole of my foot was against the opposite knee, sort of a 4 shape. from there, he had clear access to my balls and ass, even sliding under to my rock hard dick. He did that routine on both sides, really giving a full massage that had become extremely erotic. Just as I thought he was wrapping up my legs, I felt him bury his scruffy face between my cheeks. He rimmed me like a champ, and you can tell he loves doing it. Finally he said, "let's flip you over."
 
I did, naked and rock hard, obviously. He was too...at some point he had slid out of his clothes! Handsome, hairy guy...not a muscle bod by any stretch, more of an everyday build (but I dig the guy next door vibe more). From there, he massaged my legs a bit more, stroking my cock and eventually leaning over and sucking it. I eventually busted a huge load, and then reached over and stroked his dick until he shot a hot load, first clear across the table (and me), and the rest all over my chest.
 
I saw him a few more times before lockdown. He's left that spa, but my eyes are definitely open to see where he pops back up when we're all through this!

I'll file this as "sort of unexpected after the first time"...
 
I got a recommendation from a fellow forum member on a guy who used to be at a local spa that caters mostly to guys and has a male massage team (located in one of the city's gay neighborhoods), but is a legit spa. My friend heard that masseur that he had some action with, but was likely a very YMMV situation, was somewhere out in the burbs now, so since I'm in the burbs, I decided to investigate. I found the masseur at a normal spa (hair, nails, etc) not too far off the path between home and work. Booked an appointment, and the first massage was a solid technical massage, with not even a hint of anything more. Although when I was saying good by, I glanced down and spotted a pretty decent bulge on the guy, and he may have noticed!
 
A month went by, and my shoulder/back were pretty sore and tight, so decided to go back in, expecting just a good massage. First half was pretty normal has he hit my back and legs, maybe a little more glute work that the first meeting. but as he started to work up to my shoulder again, his leg was definitely pressed against me arm, that was hanging to the side. As he sort of worked around the top of the table to my other shoulder, I felt him press against my other arm, and it definitely wasn't his leg I felt. I have to admit, I was excited, but also pretty nervous in the setting. My heart was pounding as it all sort of started to register.
 
He kept the (good) massage going working my shoulders and back, but now his hands were sliding under the draping to my ass cheeks frequently until his hands were sliding right into my crack and against my hole. As he was transitioning down to my legs, I felt him take the sheet from my feet and slide it down the length of me so i was totally undraping. The feeling of that sheet sliding down me was so hot. from there, he continued to do leg work, sliding up to my ass. At one point, he positioned one leg so the sole of my foot was against the opposite knee, sort of a 4 shape. from there, he had clear access to my balls and ass, even sliding under to my rock hard dick. He did that routine on both sides, really giving a full massage that had become extremely erotic. Just as I thought he was wrapping up my legs, I felt him bury his scruffy face between my cheeks. He rimmed me like a champ, and you can tell he loves doing it. Finally he said, "let's flip you over."
 
I did, naked and rock hard, obviously. He was too...at some point he had slid out of his clothes! Handsome, hairy guy...not a muscle bod by any stretch, more of an everyday build (but I dig the guy next door vibe more). From there, he massaged my legs a bit more, stroking my cock and eventually leaning over and sucking it. I eventually busted a huge load, and then reached over and stroked his dick until he shot a hot load, first clear across the table (and me), and the rest all over my chest.
 
I saw him a few more times before lockdown. He's left that spa, but my eyes are definitely open to see where he pops back up when we're all through this!

I'll file this as "sort of unexpected after the first time"...
 
I got a recommendation from a fellow forum member on a guy who used to be at a local spa that caters mostly to guys and has a male massage team (located in one of the city's gay neighborhoods), but is a legit spa. My friend heard that masseur that he had some action with, but was likely a very YMMV situation, was somewhere out in the burbs now, so since I'm in the burbs, I decided to investigate. I found the masseur at a normal spa (hair, nails, etc) not too far off the path between home and work. Booked an appointment, and the first massage was a solid technical massage, with not even a hint of anything more. Although when I was saying good by, I glanced down and spotted a pretty decent bulge on the guy, and he may have noticed!
 
A month went by, and my shoulder/back were pretty sore and tight, so decided to go back in, expecting just a good massage. First half was pretty normal has he hit my back and legs, maybe a little more glute work that the first meeting. but as he started to work up to my shoulder again, his leg was definitely pressed against me arm, that was hanging to the side. As he sort of worked around the top of the table to my other shoulder, I felt him press against my other arm, and it definitely wasn't his leg I felt. I have to admit, I was excited, but also pretty nervous in the setting. My heart was pounding as it all sort of started to register.
 
He kept the (good) massage going working my shoulders and back, but now his hands were sliding under the draping to my ass cheeks frequently until his hands were sliding right into my crack and against my hole. As he was transitioning down to my legs, I felt him take the sheet from my feet and slide it down the length of me so i was totally undraping. The feeling of that sheet sliding down me was so hot. from there, he continued to do leg work, sliding up to my ass. At one point, he positioned one leg so the sole of my foot was against the opposite knee, sort of a 4 shape. from there, he had clear access to my balls and ass, even sliding under to my rock hard dick. He did that routine on both sides, really giving a full massage that had become extremely erotic. Just as I thought he was wrapping up my legs, I felt him bury his scruffy face between my cheeks. He rimmed me like a champ, and you can tell he loves doing it. Finally he said, "let's flip you over."
 
I did, naked and rock hard, obviously. He was too...at some point he had slid out of his clothes! Handsome, hairy guy...not a muscle bod by any stretch, more of an everyday build (but I dig the guy next door vibe more). From there, he massaged my legs a bit more, stroking my cock and eventually leaning over and sucking it. I eventually busted a huge load, and then reached over and stroked his dick until he shot a hot load, first clear across the table (and me), and the rest all over my chest.
 
I saw him a few more times before lockdown. He's left that spa, but my eyes are definitely open to see where he pops back up when we're all through this!