Gymowner

ok wolfer... thanks for your comments and questions. to be clear, the person i talked about in my post i have seen once and many times twice a week going on 10 months now. thats alot of time that we have gotten to know each other from our sessions. we share common viewpoints. in the beginning he stated "i feel like we are becoming friends". i took that comment down right away. i said "we are becoming friendly not friends and thats the way it needs to be for long term business relationships like this". he seemed confused. i said "look,we wont be friends ever". he asked why not. i said "its easy. will you ever call me up to go hit the gym together or just hang out at a movie for free?". he turned his head down, got what i meant and from that moment on our "relationship" has gone perfectly and smoothly in the right direction. he contacts me each day we are to meet about 4 hours beforehand to see if i still want to get together that day and never in 10 months has he ever been even 1 minute late, nor changed or cancelled a session. now thats a business relationship that works. now are we very warm with each other when we meet? you bet. does he get into his personal life and ask me for or listen to my opinions? yes again. i think it works so well since he sees there is no pressure on my end to ever evolve this into anything more than it is. he now sees that being "friendly" is what makes this work for so long. he tells me the stories about guys that want to "fall for him" and its just a total turn off to a guy whose inclinations are with and for the opposite sex. so since we are "friendly" now its easy for me to keep this a business relationship and pay him not for his time when we go away but for the sessions that he delivers on when we are there. we will see sights, lay on the beach and just relax. i dont need or want to feel any emotions towards him at all. i think a lot of you guys on here want but wont admit to this when you hire for days or week excursions. you want to feel intimacy and loved by that uber hot stud for that time away and are willing to pay dearly for it. faux affection it is. and again this stud is not a machine. how many times he wants to have a session in those two days will be totally up to him. i will pay him his full price for each and every session. 1 sessions gets his one fee. 5 sessions in the two days will get him 5 fees. that way there is no pressure whatsoever on him for performance or any feeling from him that i expect a certain amount of sessions. this is as a i stated a win/win for me and the stud. how much money he wants or needs to make is totally up to him and in that time frame we get a mini vacation away from our regular lives. this is simple stuff guys!!!! now will this work for a new escort? i dont believe so. he does not know your intentions nor his commonalities, if any, that he has with you. and why on earth would i want to pay someone for their time that i know nothing about? his likes/dislikes etc. hell, my life has been more auntie mame than many or most of these guys so why should i pay them to listen to their boring lives? they should pay me!!!!!!!

What happened to your fall trip to vegas? You ad is not posted there anymore.

now there is a phone number attached to his ad. so i found out thru an escort i know that this guy is legit and looks exactly like his pics. i totally trust the escort. actually i saw him once on fremont street a few months ago and the dude looked jacked in tight levis and thin short sleeved shirt. so i text mikemuscles. i told him exactly what i like in a respectful way. he text back "im not on here for anything sexual. im sorry." i told him that its not a problem and thanked him for his honest answer. my escort said the guy is a cool guy. huge legs and ripped body as you can see. i liked his reply back to me. sort of a humble answer. very refreshing. so if any of you are strictly into muscle worship hit this guy up. and of course tell us all how the session goes!

Anyone know anything about this guy? Just my type. Muscle, blond, handsome and straight. Tried to contact him. No phone or email provided. Ugh! What are these guys thinking! https://rentmen.eu/MikeMuscles

I put the onus on the escort. I have never done anything but an hour session. Falling asleep and spending a huge amount of money to hear someone snore doesn't appeal to me. If I need cuddling my dog is perfectly happy to snuggle up on the bed when going to sleep. Lol I had an escort once ask me with a late session if I wanted to do an overnight. He would reduce his rate. I thought about it and said "well I don't care to sleep with you and for what I want, let's set up a session in the morning and I get what I want for about half of the overnight "discounted" rate." He chuckled and said sure, so we met again the next day. I have a very regular escort that we have gotten to know each other and have alot of similar interests. I offered to take him on a 2 day trip to a place he likes. He said sure. I defined the parameters that any costs that he would incur in his day on our trip that he would not at home I would pay for. Hotel, gas, gym fee etc. Food he would eat at home so I told him he would cover that himself. Will I pay for a nice restaurant one evening...sure.What I am willing to cover is any and all of the sessions at normal rate HE wants to have so he can make his money. If he wants one session...fine. if he wants 6 sessions in the two days...fine. that way he has the freedom to make the money he wants without losing any money from client work at home. Fair for him, fair for me and we both get a mini vacay away from our daily lives. I cant imagine just paying someone just for their time. Who is "just paying for their time" when they are home? Now in this situation, remember that we get along as people great and have alot in common. A new client would and could be another story. Taking the escorts time away from other activities outside of escorting could make for a situation to pay for time. A single escort, laying on a beach in mexico... I dont think so.

a well known escort chimed in on another thread of similar content. Not exact but similar. Well, the attitude he gave as if he was being bothered asking for photo verification of his condition and that it was really him. Many chimed in that his attitude sucked. He became even more beligerent. Going so far as to say in this day and age it was easy to find out peoples true identity. Hmmmmm.... wonder what he was alluding to with those kind words. I have a friend who is a cam model. Great person. He complained one day he was thinking of baning a guy from his room since the guy was annoying and my friend couldn't focus on his room. I said for him to take a deep breath, back off and reality check his situation. He made huge amounts of money for basically laying in bed and jerking off. He changed his whole attitude. Thanked me for that and said he really had much more stress when he was working a minimum wage job years earlier. I dont think many of these guys understand that a good portion of their job is aquiring new clients. ANY time ANY business has to do so there will be pain in the asses, complainers, whiners etc. Its par for the course. That's how a client base of great clients is achieved... by weeding out all the bad clients or potentials. Many dont understand this or have such poor people and business skills they feel they are entitled to perfect clients each and every time. Get over yourselves men. Father time will take care of you sooner than you think. Then go out in the real world and see how this attitude works.

got a lap dance from him at swinging richards when it was in aventura florida years ago. hot guy. great ass. looked just like the pics. boring as hell. went thru the motions and my impression was that if he wasnt into your looks it was just a mundane lap dance. saw him there quite a few more times and never got another dance. so what was said about not being able to get it up in a session and a lackluster time makes sense to me

not saying they are legit but i would proceed with great caution. both ads popped up at the same time. the writing is the same and sounds like due to their writing they are from another country. anytime the word "boy"appears it makes me thing of eastern european descent.

Kurtis, your tone seems to be very high strung and stressed. That is how you come across. How you shape your thoughts and words, you appear to be a "I win/you loose" type of person. I dont believe for one second that a person who has met you multiple times had the audacity to say "I own your cunt... " just your way of internalizing then formulating your position to again "win" with your thinking of the matter. I'm really done with this back and forth. My world has nothing to do with you and your world has nothing to do with me. Good luck

22 years in business, 5 separate businesses at the same time and over 135 employees. yeah... you win big boy. i dont feel ive made it there at all. sad is right. only time i have separated from a customer is when i felt my employees were being disrespected and treated poorly. i literally threw out a cardiologist once that was totally going over the top and disrespecting one of my employees. it takes a huge amount of money to get people into a business nowadays with all the fierce competition there is. YOU on the other hand have to answer a text, send a few pics and never hear from the poor wretch again. you will also meet some very good people the same way that can be clients for many many years. i know which one i would choose.

Interesting Kurt that your rhetoric is very dominant in nature. You use FACT, let's gets this correct etc. Maybe in the sort of line where one head directs over another you may have a weak point. I can assure you all your business classes do not prepare you for the real world. FACT. So let's get this straight.... have payroll, mortgage payments, fica, futa etc and I can assure you the customer is always right. You may win the battle with your way of thinking but you will not win the war. And that's just a....FACT.

Anyone know what happened to Keith? Seems to have disappeared. Out of Atlantic city area. Emailed him once and he seemed up to come to Vegas around olympia time. Man to have met this stud!

Oh brother...again the arrogance of the gay escort. Makes my position on hiring straights all the more worthwhile. As I stated I get there are flakes as clients out there. I really do. Look at any business and tell me any one of them that doesn't have to deal with crap (pardon the pun) from time to time. "The customer is always right" obviously doesn't seem to apply to the "escorts that are full of themselves". I can only think how a Vin Marco or Zeb Atlas (both straight...ehem) would talk about handling this type of situation. Me thinks in a totally different and much more gracious manor.

pic 5 does not match the more muscled and hot shape of pic 1 and 2. which condition is he currently in?

have to totally agree with tenderloin on this one. there seems to be some arrogance or elitism in kurts reply. for $300+ per hour, overnights in the thousands and weekends much more, one should have to deal with such minor pittances. i understand there are a lot of flakes out there. i truly do. we arent talking minimum wage here. this is attorney level pay. many attorneys give out free consultations in the beginning to get business. i dont see how taking a few minutes, even with whack jobs is asking too much for this sort of pay.

Just spoke about this topic with my regaular today. He is in fantastic shape right now hitting the gym twice a day. He claims that about 6 hours after a shot of test he is horny as fuck. I now plan to set my appointments around said schedule. Hahahahaha

Funny thing is he blocked me on rm. Never contacted him nor wrote about him. Just viewed his page. Very odd.

Wasn't goldilocks involved with bears? I guess I'm just kvetching now.

its absolutely awesome that this buck, ryan and others get glowing reviews over and over. this board is suppose to help uninformed make a good decision. so whats wrong with great reviews posted by the same person if each and every time the session is great if we know the poster is legit? guys complain when there is no information about an escort then when there is a lot of very positive reviews the mockery flows. i just dont get it.

I actually know someone who really knows him. Showed me a few of the pics that are actually him. Only problem is, the person who knows him claims his age in the upper 40's not his claimed age. That's too bad. The pics that are supposedly him are great. A big hot muscle daddy should be lined up for days with sppts.

Boy.... I read both articles. Remember the defense attorney will certainly pose his clients side of the story as a victim. I dont buy it. Oh, being molested...yes, that makes sense from the old guzzard. Holding him against his will?? Was he tied up with wrist bruises? Was there any drugs in his system showing a drugging? Fake news. If I was on the jury a massive young powerful buck against a 50 year old with the only means of escape is 16 stabbings to the person, would hold no water with me. A tussle, a few bruises on both parties and the massive young bodybuilder escaping makes sense. Other story makes no sense to me as the only form of defense. What possibly happened was the young bull had enough as a straight guy living his life in a gay world. Gay world job, gay world living. This can affect alot of straight guys. I've seen it for my own eyes. The bodybuilder snapped and took out his rage on the old pervert. The media nowadays loves to form stories with subjective wordings and phrasings as truth. We see it everyday.

there should be a box for "yenta boyfriend". "you get sex once a year on your birthday as long as i dont have a headache!!!!"

give me a break! the old pervert was wrong...for sure. but to be stabbed 16 times almost to death for rubbing the bucks leg and TRYING to grab his junk? and stating he would kidnap him/ OMFG! a huge strong young bull like this can flick his finger once and knock the old guzzard right down. stabbing him for rubbing his leg is like getting the death sentence for a speeding ticket! talk about wigging out! and he danced at a gay bar in new york ...... i'm sure no one ever tried to grab his junk ever there. naw.........

i have one little gripe with jessie. its really not a biggie though. jesse emailed me after our meeting to post a review. for taking the time he said would send me a video of himself. i said sure. i gave the review which was honest and stellar. he saw the review and emailed back a thank you. i waited and no video. i emailed him "what about the video"? crickets. so i dont know if the thank you was from the supposed 'agent" following up and had no idea of what he promised or if it was just jesse that got lax on follow thru. again no biggie but if promised especially in writing and a "thank you" follow up is paramount.

met a hot little blond out at charlies in vegas last wednesday. it was underwear night. the blond had a jock strap on and a smoking hot little bootie. i went up to him to buy him a drink. he said "thank you i just bought myself one. im on rentmen under tannereric". i thought "wow that was a fast sales pitch". he is hotter i feel in person than in his pics. i have no idea what type of escort he is but that is one cute little smooth ass on this blond!