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Milwaukee and Madison aren't exactly hotbeds of massage. I've seen Jeff before and I don't think he'll check all of the boxes hairyfratdude11 is looking for--in fact he's pretty clear on his website that the shorts stay on and I've yet to hear from anybody who had different results (that said the massage is good). In fact most of the guys based in either city I've seen have only delivered on 1 or 2 of the things he's looking for. I've had much better luck with guys visiting those cities. If anybody knows of a guy based in either city who does deliver all 3 I'd be interested in hearing about it as well.

Yeah, it became harder to find threads especially about guys on MF when that site went from names in the address to numbers. Feel free to PM if you want more details.

Yeah, it became harder to find threads especially about guys on MF when that site went from names in the address to numbers. Feel free to PM if you want more details.

There are a couple of older threads about him: https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/jeff-in-madison-wi.116197/ https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/jeff-in-phoenix-exceptional-hands.107808/ I saw him a couple of years ago--the massage was good though he kept his shorts on (which in fairness he does spell out on his website: http://exceptionalhands.us/Exceptional_Hands/Q_A.html) I think the bandana photos on RM are recent-ish but definitely show him in his best light. He was apparently a model back in the mid 80s after college so yeah, definitely not the 46 he claims (he's good looking for his age but that age ain't 46 (pretty sure a decade more would be more accurate)).

There are a couple of older threads about him: https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/jeff-in-madison-wi.116197/ https://www.companyofmen.org/threads/jeff-in-phoenix-exceptional-hands.107808/ I saw him a couple of years ago--the massage was good though he kept his shorts on (which in fairness he does spell out on his website: http://exceptionalhands.us/Exceptional_Hands/Q_A.html) I think the bandana photos on RM are recent-ish but definitely show him in his best light. He was apparently a model back in the mid 80s after college so yeah, definitely not the 46 he claims (he's good looking for his age but that age ain't 46 (pretty sure a decade more would be more accurate)).

The picture above is definitely not recent. I will say his photos on MF are probably more representative of what he looks like now than what he looked like 10 years ago (his RM photos definitely cover a longer span of time). I would be curious if he did pack on some pounds during the quarantine times but when I saw him last summer he was reasonably fit. As somebody that is generally happy to carry on a conversation with a masseur I don't recall him being overly talkative (I'd say I probably drove most of the conversation so as somebody else mentioned maybe he was just happy to talk to somebody). Overall I've had good encounters with him when he's been in town so maybe it just a case of him misinterpreting things or not clearly reading the signs.

Yikes! There are some really bad experiences in this thread! Compared to some of the stories on here my worst experiences pale in comparison. Really the most I can complain about is the one masseur who did this thing on my back with his feet that resulted in me having sore ribs for a week and another masseur who offered to let me watch him jack off for $20 and got massage oil all over my sheets (I guess that's risk of having an outcall at your own house--I now know to ask what they use for the massage). My first thought was I've been lucky but I must say that the board has likely saved me from some bad experiences so thanks guys! There have been plenty of guys that have passed through town that I've been intrigued by but universally bad feedback on here has made me keep well clear of them.

I'm similar. At the end of the day I want a quality massage first and foremost--and any other stuff that happens is a bonus. In fact some of the hottest encounters I've had with masseurs are with guys who don't portray themselves in a particular sexual light. I suspect with the more overt guys they probably have a baseline of what they'll do in a sexual sense so when it happens they're just checking that box so it feels more rote or perfunctory. In contrast with the guys who have a more straight-laced presentation if they're into you they'll make it clear. If you find them also attractive that chemistry can result in an all-around enjoyable session for all involved (and there's definitely something to be said about a session where the masseur only ends up getting naked once things start heating up than when the goods are on display from go).

Seconding the recommendation. I've always had a most enjoyable and relaxing time with them.

Other than one masseur who no longer advertises on masseurfinder, I think I've cum with every single masseur I've hired off MF or RM. In terms of anal, as a guy who is actually not super into anal (I'm definitely more of a side ) I haven't actually had penetrative sex with any of them but I suspect I could have. Of the guys I've hired off MF or RM, I'd say I've engaged in some sort of reciprical activity with 2/3 of them and I'd say about 1/3 of them have cum themselves.

At least as of a year or two ago the Westside YMCA had open showers (2 walls of open showers somewhat similar to poolboy48220's photo above).

While they're a tad pricey (though I suppose you are getting 2 for the price) I've had good experiences with them as a pair as well as Mike solo (he's the one with the long hair--he's cuter with it a bit shorter and he is the more experienced of the pair). I suppose by advertising on Rent.men they are opening themselves to people who just want sex but massage is their focus and I've always felt they've been pretty clear about their boundaries (and I think they're pretty clearly outlined on rent.men). I guess what I'm saying is I wouldn't dismiss somebody completely based on one misstep.

Maybe I should find some new masseurs! The most undressed I've had a masseur be when they've met me at the door was wearing just a pair of sweats--though in fairness I think they were wearing nothing before I'd even gotten my shoes off.

I'll join the chorus of Jake fans. I've seen him a couple of times while traveling and he has always had a table and the sessions have always been good all around (massage, conversation, etc.). My main complaint is I do wish he'd lay off the razor and leave at least some hair below the neck!

Saw him a year or two ago--the experience falls into the category of I don't regret it but probably wouldn't repeat. He was very chatty about his person circumstances to the point where I felt like I should be charging him for listening (I'm not his counselor or psychiatrist! ). If you want details about the actual massage feel free to PM me.

Very meh--would not repeat.

Bumping--any experience with Buckley?

Saw Mike and David while they were traveling and I'll echo what others have said. Admittedly it's my only experience with 4 hand massage but I definitely enjoyed it. Good conversation when you wanted it but didn't force it when you just wanted to enjoy things.

In a spa situation I don't expect anything to happen and frankly don't really want anything to happen (that's too much risk/hassle for my taste). However for an in call at the masseur's apartment/house or a hotel room or an out call at my place while I don't really go into a first time session expecting to touch the masseur I usually let them drive the course of events and I'd say I've probably received an HE more than 95% of the time, had some degree of touch at least 50% of the time and ended up with both of us happy at least some of the time. As Cmail01 says masseurs will generally let you know (subtle signs placing their dick in your upturned hand or the even more subtle move of them stretching your arm and pressing your hand into their naked crotch are pretty good signs). That said even when they've made it pretty clear it's OK to touch unless they've outright said go ahead and touch I still ask.

Haven't been to the Philadelphia Jacks party before but I've been to NY Jacks. When you're with a bunch of different guys of all body types and sizes and all of you are just wearing shoes the nerves dissipate pretty quickly. The first time I went I was nervous too--I started out pretty slow just checking out the rooms and keeping to myself but by the end of the afternoon I was jerking off two other guys while they both jacked me off. The fact that generally Jacks parties have the no lips below the hips and no anal contact rules keeps the stakes much lower (and thus the pressure) and you can get a little out of your comfort zone without really going too far.

You've never had the masseur brush his penis against you (often your arm or your head)? Or the much more obvious plop it in your open palm while their work your back move? Or stretch your arm and in the process place your hand on their groin? I'm definitely not particularly bold especially when I'm on a table (and especially when I'm on my stomach) so I often let the masseur make the first move and those are some of the more obvious signs they're open to mutual touch. I will say it seems a lot more natural (and more likely to start sooner) when the massage is on a bed. And if they're naked and they start touching you then a polite "may I touch you" usually elicits a yes.

Love how the one guy keeps his knee length socks on the entire time!

I don't have an issue either way - I'm ok with draping but I am also fine being undraped for even a strictly therapeutic massage. The thing I always find annoying about draping is how fussy it sometimes is. I don't really care if the masseur gets a peak at something (such as when switching from being on your front to back) so it's always weird when they're doing stuff like holding the sheet up practically over their head

Natura is apparently closing at the end of the month which is too bad--it was small but nice (and the price was nice). I actually prefer the spas where nothing really goes on--just guys relaxing naked (so Wi and Natura are/were my go to spas in LA).

I've seen him a few times. Since it is stretching focused it's a different experience than a typical massage. Would definitely recommend.