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I went to villi Giani last week. I arrived about 6 pm on a Wednesday. It is my second time in in the place but I never hired there before as I wasn’t well on the last occasion (review of visit above). When I went in, I met the receptionist/host and he brought me to the one-way window. The available guys were three South American guys. They were all Twinkish in build, and of average to good looks. I think they had been better looking bunch the previous time, when unfortunately I wasn’t up to doing anything I clarified that the fee would be £160, which would include everything. I picked a guy called Pedro, who is from Brazil and quite new to the establishment. I was told I’d have to wait for a room, and I was ushered to a little waiting-room just inside the door, with a couch and a TV. Felt a bit weird to be stuck in this pokey room watching Sky News, but I was only was only there for maybe five or 10 minutes before the host came and brought me to the bedroom. The room was a small windowless room with just basically bed and side table. If I had been hoping for an en-suite to possibly have a shower, I would have been disappointed I decided I wanted a sort of proper massage first, but the bed was so soft it was hard for the poor masseuer - when he put pressure on my back I just sank into the mattress. I didn’t leave it long before I moved onto other activities. Pedro was friendly and eager to please. When the session ended, I gave Pedro £160 in cash before I left the room. The overall vibe was friendly and relaxing and I was offered water when I arrived and before I left. Before I left, I asked the host if there were any guys apart from the three I saw who who would be available the next day, and he showed me some photos and videos of a guy who wasn’t in that day, but would be in the next day. So it may be possible to plan ahead to visit when a guy you like will be there.

The Digital Services Act mandates no blocks of sites, it simply provides extra obligations on big sites to monitor what is happening on their sites. Of course some sites may choose to withdraw service from the EU rather than try face the extra expense of complying, but I have not heard of this happening yet. Some porn sites (such as Pornhub and Xvideos) have sued the EU regarding the extra burdens this places on them , but I have not heard that they will up close up shop if they lose.

For very muscular guys, probably Hunqz or Rentmen. I see Hunqz has a very muscular guy there now called "MuscularStraight" who might fit the bill.

The Shamelessmack Blog will give you all the info you need. His homepage is here: https://shamelessmacktwo.travel.blog/ Go to it, and do a search for Bali He went to six male massage places in Seminyak and comprehensively reviewed them in March of this year (or, at least the posts date from March of this year). He compares them with Thai places, and has a included his own home-made map of Seminyak to show you where they are in the town. He tends to have complicated systems for his reviews. What your are looking for are what he calls "Type 3" and "Type 4" establishments (not sure if Bali has any Type 4 though).

Does not look like they are trying to attract tourists as visitors. According to their website: "To access the club, it is essential to register and be of legal age....You will need the approval of 3 club and/or board members."

I was probably a bit prejudiced toward Istanbul by one incident in particular,if i am honest. I arranged for a guy from the Hunqz site to come to my hotel. I was staying at a small boutique hotel on a side street of Istiqlal Street. As the masseur I booked was a good looking hunky guy, I guessed that the male receptionist on duty that day might guess what was happening, and I was wondered if my visitor would have any difficulties being given access to my room. Therefore before he arrived, I informed the receptionist that I had a gentleman coming to discuss business and said, casually, “you can just send him up when he arrives” as if I was about to show him fabric samples or something. The receptionist said he would. So the masseur arrived and came to my room. We had only just started undressing when there was a knock at the door... Obviously it was the receptionist about something. I was wondering what the bloody hell it could be (the escort was very unfazed and just lay on the bed). I quickly threw on my clothes, went to the door and opened it a crack, hoping the receptionist had just forgotten to tell me some mundane thing, such as that the electricity would be down for an hour that evening, or the like. I nearly died when instead he said “I have set up some Turkish tea up in the breakfast room for you and your guest”. Obviously I had to tell him that we were okay where we were. He seemed a bit disappointed, and stared at me for a moment. I had visions of the receptionist declaring "we cannot have immorality going on in this hotel you know", like Kenneth Williams in a Carry On film, but thankfully he eventually just turned round and left. It took me a while to get into things with the hunk after that! When my escort left the room, I was wondering if there would be anything said to him when leaving. So I stuck my head out the window as he was going down to reception, to see if you left the building fairly promptly, and he did. I was relieved as I assumed that meant he hadn’t had much of a chance to be questioned by the receptionist on the way out. However I noticed the receptionist changed towards me from then on. He had been friendly in a smarmy kind of way beforehand, but now he didn’t meet my eye and barely said a word to me. That was fine with me, but I was rather self-conscious coming and going after that! So between everything, it was a somewhat stressing trip for me.

In retrospect, that was probably an overly harsh judgement. I’ve been to Istanbul and enjoyed it from purely touristic point of view. Good value hotels, and some of the sites, particularly historic ones, are great. But I find it seems to have a lot of very uncritical fans on travel websites, which surprises me, after visiting. A few things put me off Istanbul. One was the “hassle”. It was not huge, compared to other places, but it was a bit annoying. Men walking up to you on the street and trying to engage in conversation, trying to get you to come to their "brothers carpet shop", etc. I remember in particular on my second day when I had just out of the Blue mosque, and was heading for the Kucuk Ayasofia mosque (formerly Byzantine church). A guy came up to me and began the “visit my brother’s carpet shop“ rigmarole. In an effort to shake him politely, I said "I can’t because I’m going to the Kucuk Ayasofia and it closes in an hour. I’m in a hurry” His response was to tell me that his brothers carpet shop was close by it, and he walked along with me to 10 minutes to the Kucuk Ayasofia, giving me the Hard Sell all the time! As an introverted person, I found this rather hellish (of course in retrospect I had made a fatal error by telling him where I was headed. Still enjoyed the Kucuk, would strongly recommend it, along with the Blue Mosque). That incident made me very nervous of that sort of thing for the rest of my trip. Also, the commercial sex scene was not great. The one sauna with escorts, the Aquarius, was full of Middle Eastern guys, that seemed to want to give a little service for a lot of money, and were a bit aggressive with it. Also, I found that the online escorts were unusually expensive, considering the average wages in Istanbul. Considering it is the largest city in Europe, there wasn’t a great choice, I felt. For comparison, there was a better choice, and cheaper guys, in Athens. The food is highly praised, and I found it good. But again a problem I noticed, is that if you go to cheap neighbourhood restaurants (where I was interested in going) there was no wine or beer available to drink with your meal. Very unlike dining in cheap Greek or Spanish tavernas. My understanding is that there is loads of bars in Istanbul, and plenty of fancy restaurants serving fine wine and beer with meals. But I wasn’t bothered about going to any of them, I just wanted a glass of wine or beer to wash down my kebab. I still enjoyed the cheap neighbourhood restaurants I went to in Istanbul, they were very good value for what they sold, but the inability to have a beer with my grub was just another niggling annoyance. All that said, from a purely "standard tourist" point of view, it is a very worthwhile city to visit.

Good for you if you have the fortitude to do it, but I would be very nervous that there would be only crappy places left. What i sometime do is to try and get a better deal is to try the website of the hotel, once found on Booking.com, and see if I can get it cheaper on their website.

I second that view. I wouldn’t necessarily be the greatest fan of Istanbul for various reasons, but one thing it does well is high quality hotels at bargain rates. For example, I just picked a random date in September and searched on Booking.com for hotels that are at least four stars or more, and had a “superb” or “exceptional” rating on booking.com. I found 58 properties available for less than €150 a night (and 28 for less than €100). The big American chains didn’t feature amongst them, as they seem to charge more of a standard fee per night, no matter what city you are in Europe. I have no doubt that the current currency problems facing the Turkish lira are a part of the reason you get such bargains at the moment, although as I said, Istanbul is always a very good deal for luxury hotels. I think sometimes high-end customers from the USA are a bit reluctant to venture away from the Marriott and Hilton etc line up. But I can guarantee you that if you see an independent hotel in Istanbul, that is 4 or 5 stars, and has an extremely high rating on Booking.com (from at least, say, 100 reviewers - only people have stayed can leave reviews on Booking.com) you are pretty much guaranteed a good experience.

Well, a brief update about the two destinations mentioned above -Sami's Bar and Bizzar - would be nice. Is the info that Bizzar is now closed correct?

I visited Villa Giani last week. I was in London for a few days decided to call in the evening before I was to fly home. I planned my schedule to visit that evening, but in the event I was actually feeling quite unwell that afternoon (and as it turned out within 24 hours I was hit by a very bad dose of cold and sore throat which lasted three or four days). Even though I was feeling out of sorts, as I was close-by, I thought I would call in and look at the lineup anyway. That way at least I could report back a bit more info for this thread. I rang the doorbell and a very pleasant, Hispanic looking guy, answered. I forgot to ask his name. It was a warm afternoon outside, and it was really warm, almost oppressively so, in the basement apartment. The receptionist confirmed that the fee was £160 for one hour. Then I was brought to the mirror window. When the guys realised there was a customer at the other side of the window, they came up to it and pulled up their T-shirts to show off their chests. Four guys were available. Three Hispanic looking guys, and a pale, European-looking guy. The pale guy and two of the other guys were twinks, the other guy was more muscular. I had a gut feeling that the European looking guy might be Irish (I’m Irish myself, and we can tell our own, lol). When I asked receptionist where he was from, he confirmed that my gut feeling was correct. They were all reasonably good-looking in appearance, although perhaps not as quite as glamorous looking as one might expect for £160. I note from reading this thread that the price they charge has gone from £100 just before Covid, to £130 a bit later, and now £160. Well, good luck to them if they can get the money. I was there at 6:20, and receptionist told me that if I wanted to take a guy, there would not be a free room available on the premises until 7 pm. I ask him to explain a bit more about their opening times, as the website says they are open from 1 pm until 7 pm. He explained that they are open later, but that there were only guys available to view until 7 pm. I decided not to take a guy that day, mainly because I wasn’t feeling all that well. I felt a little bit guilty about just being a "looky-loo" but the receptionist was very pleasant about it, and said it was no problem. Generally the whole atmosphere was very calm and relaxing. I don’t think anybody should feel nervous are going for a look, if they’re interested. It is literally a five minute walk from Earls Court tube station.

What time was the stripper performing in the Eagle?

I dont know, but would be interested to hear how you get on, as i am hoping to travel to the south of France in the nesx 6 months. Nice has a sauna with a mixed night on Friday, which has always titillated me, I must admit (it is the Sauna du chateau, if you want to google it)

My next night in Thermas Second Night - Thursday There was a bigger crowd of guys this time. Maybe 15 escorts and slightly more customers. Several escorts approached me, but none very aggressively. I had a chat with Juan, who was there again, and seemed anxious for repeat business. In general the feeling I got was that they rentboys were nearly all South American guys. However, I did not like to question too much if I wasn’t interested in them, as I didn’t want to be seen to be "leading them on", so to speak. I went for a dip in the little pool there ( a very pleasant feature which few mention in reviews) and saw a rather moody looking guy sitting in the seats in the corner at that level. He was a rather handsome, masculine, Eastern European looking kind of guy, so I went over and said hello. He was the only guy I took the initiative to approach in the Sauna. He turned out to be a Russian guy called Ivan. We we had a chat and we agreed to go to a room. The only free rooms were both very dark and small, so I decided to splash out €10.50 for a private room The main advantage this was that it had sheets on the bed, and you could turn the lights up a lot, all the better for appreciating Ivan's fine physique! Ivan told me he was straight, and top only. He had previously been a professional footballer. But now he was unemployed, and needed money, hence his working in Thermas. I am guessing that as a non-EU citizen, his legal employment options in Spain were limited also. We agreed to €60 for him to give me a massage and mutual masturbation. The massage was a bit hard for me - he told me he had been trained in proper sports massage, but I am more used to the light rubbing you get in Thai sexy massage place as a prelude to the "afters". He then offered to fuck me. However, I was not in the mood for that, so I just told him I wanted him to cum. He said that he wanted another €30 or €40 for that, so I decided not to bother (there is nothing as desire-killing, as a guy who starts to negotiate in the middle of a session). In fairness to him, however, we had not discussed it before we entered the room, and I know it would probably hinder his ability to do so with a later client. So I didn’t hold that against him Instead I just got him to wank me until I came. In the room, he seemed a little morose. I asked him if he was thinking of going back to Russia, and he said he was afraid to at the moment, with the possibility of conscription into Putin's war machine. When we ended our session though, he accepted his €60 with a big smile, and volunteered to give me his phone number so we could arrange a session outside Thermas. So I think he was happy with his 40 minutes work and remuneration overall. However, as I was flying out the next day, I couldn’t take him up on the offer. All in all, although it was not the most exciting sex experiences I have had, it was very pleasant and relaxing The rentboys all stayed out of the clients locker area, and it felt a very safe environment for both the rentboys and clients.

I visited Thermas over two successive nights at the end of April. First Night - Wednesday On the first night, I got there about 6 pm. I don’t see that many guys about - I would say there was about seven guys for hire, and maybe same amount of clients. In particular I noticed three rather feminine young men, who I first though were rentboys, but then realised that they were clients. They tended to stay in their own group and made no attempt to hire that I saw. I am not sure if they went into the wrong sauna, or just wanted to have a look around at the scene (of course, for all I really know, they may have been sated from a big orgy with a dozen rentboys just before i arrived). Some of the escort guys were eating and seemed to have retired from the hunt, for the time being at least. I was only approached by a Nigerian guy and a South American guy (cannot remember exactly which country he said) named Juan. I was not hugely taken with either guy. I agreed to go into a room with Juan for massage, which ended in mutual masturbation and he gave me a BJ. We agreed on €50 and I gave him €60 - we are in the room from maybe 40 minutes altogether. The sauna was a bit quieter than I anticipated, so I asked Juan if it had been busier earlier in the day, and he said it was. So the next day Thursday I made an effort to be there by 4 pm.

As this thread has been created to share experiences, I may as well tell about my trip to Athens last September. Adventures in Bars: I was aware of two bars that were reputed to have hustlers on the premises - Sami's Bar and Bizzar (unfortunatly Bizzar seems to be closed now - see above posts). Both are close to Viktoria Metro stop, so I took a train there on a Saturday evening. I walked around the square beside the metro stop first. There were a few guys sitting on the park benches and looking at men that passed – it was obviously what they were after. I did not linger though, and went to Sami’s Bar first (often spelled “Sammi’s” on social media) When I arrived at around 9.00 pm it was nearly empty. The friendly staff told me it would get busier later, and by ten there was about four customers in the place. No real interaction between them, apart from chatting to the friendly staff. I decided to abandon it and went to Bizzar bar. This was busier, about 12 customers. There were a few younger guys circulating but they were shy about approaching you in the bar. What I figured out was that when a guy went downstairs to the toilets, they followed you down and made their pitch there. I talked to a Romanian guy during one trip downstairs, and an Egyptian on the next. The Romanian guy was pleasant and offered some fun in the toilets for €40. I did not take him up. The Egyptian guy was more pressing, and when I rejected his suggestion of going into the cubicle for some fun (my understanding was that this would involve me sucking him off, and nothing more), his suggestion of €40 rapidly dropped to €30 and eventually ended up with just begging for some money to eat. I gave him 10 euro and went back up the stairs, just in time to see the Romanian guy leaving with a customer. I then regretted not taking my chances with him, of course. I resolved to be braver in any future trip to Athens, but it appears Bizzar is closed now. Guys on Omonia Square: The next night, Sunday, I decided to walk around the northern side of Omonia Square. I walked from Omonia Square towards the pedestrian street the Cosmopolit hotel is on. Plenty of female hookers giving me the eye, but no guys I noticed (there was lot of Middle Eastern-looking guys hanging in groups of two or three, but I did not get the impression they were on the game). Then suddenly a young guy came up to me and started chatting. He started telling me about how you could rent a room for €10 from the Cosmopolit etc. He did not say why, and I was unsure at first if he was trying to pimp a women to me or what. However, it when he said he just wanted €40, it became clearer. He looked Syrian or Iraqi, and was a bit jumpy in manner, so I was too nervous to go anywhere with him. I asked him where he was from and he claimed to be called Alex from Thessalonica. This was plainly untrue, as he was obviously not Greek. I said thanks, but no thanks, and walked away. But as I had evinced some curiosity, he was not to be shaken off too easily, and followed me round Omonia Square for five minutes trying to get me to change my mind, and did not give up until I was nearly at the Athinaikon restaurant on Themistocles St. Not an interaction that would tempt me back to Omonia Square Guys on web After that, I decided to play it a bit safer, and looked at some guys on the web. Chatted to a few guys on various sites – the main site for Athens is Hunqz, as far as I can see. I agreed to meet two guys, one on Monday and one on Tuesday. The price for each was €100, I went to the apartment of one guy and asked another to come to my hotel – I offered him an extra €20 for this. Both the guys I chose had a number of positive reviews, which is largely why I chose them. They were very polite and pleasant.

See the second post down - on the 25th February last

Unfortunately, the Bizzar club now seems to be closed

In my trips to the hustler bars, I did not make a hook-up, so they were not that good in that respect. The meetings arrange via Hunqz went well.

I see that Bizzar is now closed, unfortunately, as per the facebook page quoted.

I have posted my adventures in Athens in another website. I have sent you a DM about that. But in brief: Hustler bars - There are two bars to visit. One is called Sami's Bar (sometime spelled Sammi's) and the other is Bizzar - are close to Viktoria Metro stop. One of the bars is actually only open on Friday and Saturday, so you better be in Athens at the weekend if you want to try them out. Street trade - Some around Omonia Square. AYOR. Websites - one of the best sites for Athens is Hunqz, . Last September, I agreed to meet two guys from Hunqz, one on Monday and one on Tuesday. The price for each was €100, I went to the apartment of one guy and asked another to come to my hotel – I offered him an extra €20 for this.

There are a few Irish escorts on gayromeo Dublin - they are not shy about advertising the fact on their profiles. Obviously they feel being a native has novelty value! Just do a search for the word "Irish" in the profile - should bring them up.