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Oh I took that quiz too (or one similar to it) and was also 100% heterosexual. The whole joke involves whether or not you see naked ladies in images. You are a closeted gay if you make sure they are found at all times, just to "prove" you find them attractive. Either that or they disturb you enough to stick out. Lol! As for this article line: "The data also identified certain trends, including that gay men had narrower jaws, longer noses and larger foreheads than straight men..." Sounds suspiciously like the way Jews were classified in old Nazi propaganda. On the plus side, a larger forehead may equal a bigger brain.

Well... we can overlook the little detail of him singing about Brother Rat instead of his lover. Fittingly "Ben Hur" introduces Little Michael here. That was cruel of Heston to suggest "he shouldn't be up this late". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1dAQN5QcZU Here's a breakup-and-still-can't-get-over-him song. "Other boys have called, but I just can't picture touching anybody else..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBSUz0XFLEo The ultimate in possessiveness... Frankie singing with Harry's Orchestra back in '39

Plus, like Liz Taylor, she was a heterosexual woman who was very supportive of gay rights long before it was fashionable.

Oh please, don't tell me you guys can't get a little woody over this chestnut! (In this movie, she had Paul Lynde for a father. At least he accomplished something in regards to "kids".)

Awww... that last guy shaved it all off! At least we are seeing a tiny bit of fuzz "sprouting" after the last harvest.

You forgot Sean Connery... who needs a post all to himself. http://www.bdtorino.net/files.php?file=sean_conner_tbt_01_545738280.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y3K21qQlx50/UHWvwtcZ_hI/AAAAAAABg2c/df1P5LtuhSw/s1600/sean%20connery%20shirtless%201.pnghttp://www.dvdactive.com/images/reviews/screenshot/2011/4/fromrussiawithlovebdcap2_original.jpg Oh... I guess we have to include whatshisname too. Before Playgirl, there was Cosmopolitan.

if... was rated "X" when Paramount released it in the United States. Probably for fear teenagers would imitate the rebellion they saw on screen. Anderson was pretty subtle in how he staged the homo-eroticism, though. On the other hand, nothing was left to the imagination with the heterosexual highjinks. Malcolm McDowell's technique with women must have influenced the 19-year old Bill O'Reilly.

Women In Love is a very earthy movie. Aside from the lengthy nude wrestling scene, we also have Alan Bates "making love" to all of the foliage... http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HCdr8iUPXY0/VGYX7dfzqwI/AAAAAAACgVY/IlzE95zBxnw/s1600/alan%2Bbates%2Bnaked%2B3.gif Kinda predating the nude dude in James Broughton's Dreamwood doing the same. Now... James Broughton made some groovy "experimental" cinema. A must own DVD is Kino's Big Joy, a nifty biography on him. Lots of extras and outtakes along with the documentary. Watched that one more than once, so it is worth purchasing rather than renting. What I like about the first wave of gay storylines that hit Hollywood in the late sixties (before all of the "normal stuff" like Sunday Bloody Sunday and Casey Donovan in Boys In The Sand) is how all over the place it is. Like The Killing of Sister George... and The Fox, The Sergeant and Reflections in a Golden Eye. Those movies were pretty depressing though. More amusing, in a very bad but campy way, is The Staircase with Rex Harrison and Richard Burton. Those two were fighting over Liz Taylor in Cleopatra some six years earlier, but here they were just simply... fighting. The scene of Harrison mocking Burton as he rises naked from the bathtub clearly shows they were playing gay-for-pay in the worse sense.

I still haven't the former all the way through and only parts of the latter. I really like Passolini's Decameron though, despite the goings on being all heterosexual. The scenes with the "gardener" spreading his seed in the convent are hysterical.

My... I didn't realize lil' ol' you had such dark tastes. A few clips remind me of this golden oldie from way, way back. Watch at your own risk since this counts as soft-core porn. Granted, I have the feeling half of the readers here have seen it already. So many of us have "artistic" backgrounds. Rumor has it that established director Jean Cocteau helped with the cinematography. [MEDIA=vimeo]74252210[/MEDIA] Ah yes, Old Gay Paree... which reminds me... Best lines (featuring Lesley Ann Warren and Robert Preston): Norma: You know... I think that the right woman could reform you. Toddy: You know, I think that the right woman could reform you, too. Norma: Me? Give up men? Forget it! Toddy: You took the words right out of my mouth.

... and it isn't just Wings, Midnight Cowboy and Moonlight. A surprising number of Best Pictures were simply fabulous... Broadway Melody All Quiet On the Western Front ... they were doing fine together until those French maidens showed up. http://pics.livejournal.com/markprobst/pic/0000bt1k/s320x240 Mutiny on the Bounty ... sure there are South Seas maidens, but Clark Gable and Franchot Tone are pretty bro-buddyish. Also let's not forget Charles Laughton satisfying his S&M fetish. Rebecca All About Eve ... the queen of all queens. Anne Baxter's Eve is ready to do ANYTHING for Bette Davis' Margo. Yet Bette just isn't accepting the affection. From Here to Eternity ... Monty & Frankie are like two peas in a pod http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WOEOSdom2zI/VhtIJWKmFUI/AAAAAAAAfQI/IexbS3ABtfo/s1600/frank%2Bsinatra%2BMaggio%2Bdying%2Bin%2BPrew%2527s%2Barms.jpg West Side Story ... she wants to be a Jet so baaaaad http://hollowlands.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Anybodys.jpg Lawrence of Arabia http://www.dvd.net.au/movies/l/03146-1.jpg I guess we can include the bro-buddy drinking scene in The Deer Hunter. Never a fan of Braveheart though and its stereotyped king-in-waiting. Oh... American Beauty had plenty of material to work with...

I mentioned Moonlight in reference to Wings and Midnight Cowboy predating it as Best Pictures... sort of, kind of. Also mentioned Victim (1961), which I... think... is that one. Here is Wings, the first Oscar winner for Best Pic. Yeah, sure, they are ONLY bro-buddies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MZuFX6CuNo

... and Strangers On the Train, also with Farley Granger. Robert Walker's Bruno to Farley's "Guy" (what a guy!): "I like you..." In addition, Judith Anderson's Mrs. Danvers in Rebecca. Yet these were not exactly "stellar" gay characters to be proud of. Another curio though... Hitchcock did have the comic team "Charters & Caldicott" sharing a bed in The Lady Vanishes. Then again, that film was British (a bit more gay friendly) while the others were made later in prudish Hollywood.

I know... I know... The Pagan is a heterosexual romance and should not be included here, but how can anybody resist Ramon Novarro? He is ssssoooo frisky!!

That and Harry Hamlin's earlier Clash of the Titans make for a fun double bill.

This shot reminds me of Death in Venice... just the beach setting and clothes. Lol! Now THAT movie is so abstract in its gay attractions that I much favor director Luchino Visconti's much earlier heterosexual black & white Ossessione over it, since at least you see Massimo Girotti shirtless a lot. (Rumor has it the director had his way with the mostly straight star and it is easy to see why.)

Anchors Aweigh (1945) may not be an official "gay" movie but the way Frank Sinatra can't take his eyes off of his bro-buddy Gene Kelly (even watching him as he sleeps in one scene and breathing down his neck every time he talks to a woman on the phone) and pint-sized Dean Stockwell oggles them both leaves much to question. Also we have a cartoon Jerry the Mouse chirping "I'm dancing!!!" Wings (1927) and Midnight Cowboy (1969) were the first "gay" Best Pictures, predating Moonlight. Well... to be specific... the former had Clara Bow as the female "love interest" but she fails to compete with the soldier boys' focus on each other right up to the "dying" kiss scene. Even when caught in her undies, "Buddy" Charles Rogers is too drunk and passed out to get a rise from HER. In the latter, Joe and Rico "Ratzo" toss around the derogatory F-word because they think they aren't gay... and Brenda Vacarro gets Joe to succeed sexually with her by questioning if he is. Yet Joe doesn't turn down teenagers in Time Square or traveling businessmen. Of course, Midnight Cowboy tested the waters for the same director (John Schlesinger) to tackle Sunday Bloody Sunday (1971), perhaps the most modern "sexually fluid" drama of its era. Sadly Murray Head can't make up his mind between Peter Finch and Glenda Jackson, so he leaves Merry Ol' England. Victim (1961) shows its age but was still a ground breaking social conscious film out to prove to mass audiences that being discriminated or blackmailed for a gay affair was no different than being attacked for being black or Jewish. Fassbinder's Fox and His Friends (Faustrecht der Freiheit) (1975) was criticized at the time for presenting the "gay world" of West Germany as shallow, but I don't find anything wrong with it. It is just the story of a simple guy who wins the lottery and thinks he finds love and happily-ever-after with a young "semi-otter", only to later realize he is being used for his money. The story isn't really about "being gay" so much as struggling to fit in. Also plenty of groovy '74 fashions here. Even in Morocco, El Hedi ben Salem sports the bright orange and white as he gives the two leads a wink. (Check out the heterosexual Ali: Fear Eats the Soul to see him buck naked. One of these days a thread should be started for him in "gallery".) Weekend (2011) may have a little too much talk and the steamy sex scene is too short, but it is a good "test" film to show your strictly heterosexual friends. It is no more hotsy totsy than all of their "heteronormal" chick-flix, so they have no excuse to start squirming. Le Monde du silence (The Silent World) (1956) features Jacques-Yves Cousteau leading a sizeable crew of shirtless (i.e. almost-but-not-quite naked) dudes on his Calypso and no woman in sight. Even the Dachshund on board is male. The shots of them together in clusters enjoying peaceful slumber sums it up. The two Kon Tiki movies (both the non fiction film with its peekaboo nudity, 1950, and, the dramatization, 2011) are equally good. The Wizard of Oz (1939)... C'mon. I don't need to explain.

Every opinion is one of personal taste. Many men prefer their women to be shaved, even down below. Some men are turned on by hairy arm pits on a woman. Hair on a man's back is no biggie. Back in 1942-43, it was considered quite masculine in Italian movies at least. Here is a clip from the classic Ossessione. Not that matinee idol Massimo Girotti had a lot. Note how satisfied SHE is. Sorry this has nothing to do with shaving the pubes. Yet it was still fun inserting a black and white movie clip into this thread.

This occasionally becomes a topic of conversation on "clothing optional" beaches like the ones at Cape Canaveral National Seashore in Florida. (For example, at Playalinda's infamous lots 13 and 12, the single guys... gay, bi or bored with their wives at home... tend to gravitate to one section and sometimes pay the extra two dollars for a backcountry pass to the wild blue yonder of fun-fun-fun, the hetero couples tend to occupy the middle portions since anything they do won't get them arrested for indecent exposure and the homophobics who don't want any other dudes looking at them while they tan out their asses occupy the other extreme. Just go to where you will have the most insightful discussions.) In a nut-shell... Many between 18-40 and shave are going through a "Gothic" stage. Likely they will also sport tattoos and piercings. Many between 40-65 and shave mistakenly believe that Just For Men might make you itchy down below. It does not. Trust me. Many between 65-90 (and there is one 87 year old I have met who still looks young for his age and has no shame to his game) usually have been hanging at the beach so long and have tanned so much that you don't notice one way or the other at first. Also some shave because they think their manhoods look... bigger.

Oh... one more I forgot

25 oldies (some before your time) that are certainly NOT masterpieces, but you can't erase the melodies from your mind no matter how hard you try. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" - The Tokens (1961) "Born Free" - Matt Monroe (1965) "Moon River" - Henry Mancini & Orchestra (1960) "The Way We Were" - Barbra Streisand (1973) "Theme from Mahogany" - Diana Ross (1975) "When You Wish Upon a Star" - Cliff Edwards (1939) "Moonlight Serenade" - Glenn Miller & Orchestra (1939) "The Bridge Over Troubled Water" - Simon & Garfunkel (1969) "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" - Elton John (1994) "Night and Day" - Leo Reisman & Orchestra with Fred Astaire (1932) "Singin' In The Rain" - Cliff Edwards (1929) and Gene Kelly (1951), take your pick "I Will Always Love You" - Dolly Parton (1973) and Whitney Houston (1992), but likely the later version "The One I Love" - REM (1987) "You've Lost that Lovin' Feeling" - The Righteous Brothers (1964) "Cruisin"- Smokey Robinson (1979) "The Long and Winding Road" - The Beatles (1970) "Drift Away" - Dobie Gray (1972) "Sentimental Journey" - Les Brown & Orchestra with Doris Day (1944) "All or Nothing at All" - Harry James & Orchestra with Frank Sinatra (1939) "Stranger in Paradise" - Tony Bennett (1953) "Crazy" - Gnarls Barkley (2005) "Stand By Me" - Ben E. King (1960) "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes" - Ruth Etting (1934), but likely The Platters (1958) "Memories" - Elvis Presley (1968) "Here and Now" - Luther Vandross (1989) Oh... and this ditty from 1933 (with bouncy Ginger Rogers) that was included in every Loony Tune and Merry Melody you grew up watching Sometimes a very obscure song grabs you and you can't erase it either. Classic example is this "chart-miss" from 1966 by a girl group Reparta & the Delrons, who remind me of Phil Spector's Ronettes with all of that "wall of sound" slushy-ness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBSUz0XFLEo Under no circumstances start humming these two... "White Christmas" - Bing Crosby (1942) "It's a Small World After All"... Walt Disney will never be forgiven for plopping this one on the New York World's Fair of 1964

Actually this is an interesting topic. My first time with an erotic masseur involved some of this, but not any full-on "oral" activity. Since I was quite virginal at the time even at the scrotum level, it didn't take much to send my missile into space.

Is this video OK to plop here for amusement? Remove it if it is not. [MEDIA=vimeo]66996118[/MEDIA]

I don't know where to begin with this one. Was it really an *accident* to have the younger not-yet-an-otter in his Brian Wilson hair cut look intimidated by the big bear? Actually his eyes are looking away at something in the background. Pretty bad cut-out and paste work here. Man! The sixties and seventies really were a golden age before all of that unnecessary manscaping that took over. Note how he flaunts his arm pit, which is less hairy than his chest. By the way, this enormously popular ad in 1982 is the one that officially kicked off the Era of Manscaping. Almost overnight, men began using their razors for other areas besides their faces. The golden age of Sean Connery and Tom Selleck was officially over. A couple others that amuse me. Note how the man can be a trifle more revealing provided there's a WOMAN next to him. Can't get too homoerotic in the seventies, y'know. He has to stay focused on HER even though she is dressed like some nun/nurse in alternative white. This is quite an unusual ad for unusual underthings. Oh... this is so wrong on so many levels... Don't get me started on the blatant racism involving the yard-stick brief. Some ads are so easy to "date". There is little question that this one was published right around the time LBJ was leaving office and Nixon was taking over. You can sense the overall disgust the younger generation was having with the "silent majority". http://www.earthlymission.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/very-weird-vintage-underwear-ads-4.jpg