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On 1/26/2022 at 5:15 AM, azdr0710 said:

scrolling thru the pictures, each one got better than the previous......great-looking guy......teeth in remarkably good shape!  😀

https://www.sleepyboy.com/uk/london/central/escort/DannyMichaels

Photoshop is strongly indicated in a large number of his recent photos. Nevertheless, this is nothing severe - he is using the tool to make himself look less stocky.

On 10/22/2021 at 2:37 PM, irfy said:

what about this guy, do you know anything about him? Do you think his reviews are genuine?

https://www.sleepyboy.com/uk/south-west-england/escort/MartyHardy

No, although fabrication seems to be indicated in some of his reviews, which contain identical punctuation errors. There might be a mixture of real and unreal, or he may have a person (Client?) who writes them for him using a VPN, $15 accounts and emails.

Fabricated feedback isn't necessarily evidence of a bad provider.

Sleepyboy are aware of this, and keeping an eye on the advertiser. I am not sure how the old account (/yolowood) disappeared. Maybe it was a ban, since he wouldn't just delete an account with 10 "reviews" if you have to pay £10 to fake each one.

All I know is that in 2017/18?, the same advertiser had another account with similar reviews (glaring positive, identical prose, unrealistic frequency, typographical similarities) and he conned a client for a lot of money - £200/300? deposit. This account mentioned both Bristol and Bromley (London). The advertiser was selling a personal collection of videos for £50 in which he was topping twinks, and trying to initiate contact with prospective clients in some way by doing this. The account was linked to "Matthew Black". Any search for who this might actually be - runs dry.

On 10/5/2021 at 4:10 AM, jetlow said:

This Henry?

https://www.sleepyboy.com/uk/south-west-england/escort/Henry4577

Seemed  like a nice guy. Based on chats with him. I considered going to Bath ( never been, so I figured now i have an excuse ), and reached out to him. Never been to Bristol either, but I figured its a short train ride from Bristol and I could have him come over.  I am US based but very frequently in London. 

Went silent for a while and got back active again because he was busy with his other job. He reached out to me just as I was about board my plane back to JFK.   Didn't provide details. Was quite explicit that he doesn't do penetrative sex, but rather light touching. Well maybe there's a market for that in Bristol honey, but that most certainly won't fly in London, not even at  £150 h , his advertised rate.   If he tried that in New York they would give him a 50 and send him home. 

But alas, the boy is beautiful. And he likes Tchaikovsky  and  Rachmaninov. The prospect. 

i imagine he frots. Didn't ask. Offers companionship services, and light sex, I assume mutual JO. Presumably I will get to touch him. Not sure.  He is handsome though and the thought of him topping me to the 1812 overture ( lists Tchaikovsky at one of his likes) seemed intriguing. 

Quite well spoken and polite. If thats the same Henry, then I'm surprised!   He could easily command London rates if he was full service. 

Its important not to think with your dick sometimes, alas...

He took the deposit from the client, the arrangement fell through and he then sent mocking messages after he asked for the money back. I have no reason to doubt the client. He was regular, known for years, took me out a few evenings and nights when I was doing that kind of thing, and quite pragmatic about the way he was conned by the advertiser.

My recommendation is only engage this advertiser if you are visiting his premises. He will otherwise ask for advances.

His feeback also has fabrication indicated, both on his present and deleted profiles. Sleepyboy only accepts reviews from paid client accounts*, so high frequency feedback written in a very similar style is likely the advertiser himself using a £10 burner account to submit one.

*Since all features bar a few photos are free, I know few clients who ever paid for an account on Sleepyboy.

Further, Mr Black's operation has more often centered around selling videos of himself involved with "younger men" of ambiguous age. He is very much into twinks.

On 9/23/2021 at 1:39 PM, jetlow said:

I’m like a fancy car - I require full service .  This would include full BFE + no nonsense anal etc. Talking before and after.  Otherwise I can just JO at home. 

Henry doesn't offer that which is fine, there is a market for what he is providing, probably from older gents. 

Henry (Matt Black) is a deposit scammer. Stole £300 from one of my clients.

I have been informed in the past that Matt Black is a conman who operates a deposit scam, so proceed with caution and don't send any money.

And to be clear... Matt Black is "Henry" and not "Matt".

Comes across as a lunatic and a tryhard.

Also, (very) basic analysis of his reviews reveals them to have been written by himself.

He advertised on RM when he was based in London.

If 80% is fabrication, indeed, 20% may be real.

The reviews came in quick succession, because like most fake reviews on RentMen, they were written at a point in time to fulfill a present purpose. See for example, three reviews (all on on Feb 1!), some by previous reviewers. No narrative, just fabricated for a purpose. His narrative reviews are nearly all written by the same person, with the same errors.

There are numerous accounts on RM, writing very similar narrative and blank reviews for the same itinerant South American escorts, often multiple times for the same provider.

Your criteria for selecting escorts is bizarre - as if they are some kind of product that is pure and gets "used". And taking it at face value, using a review count is an incredibly naive way of measuring how much "contact" they have with the "outside world" (it sounds insane to even entertain something so inane).

It's to stop them posting reviews or reporting him - what even genuine escorts do when they have a bad experience on RM.

Look at his reviews! Usual army of fakes, and one real client who whines about "being left in suspense" (he's on drugs) in his other reviews.

No action on the fake escorts or their fake reviewers.

They are really taking a chance with the Dutch advertising codes.

I don't see what there is to be confused about. He has been around for years with the same false advertising as already discussed, so it can be assumed to a 95% degree of certainty that it he has some resemblance to the model, but is more an average body type and perhaps older.

I'm confused why clients repeatedly take the risk. Is it some kind of yearning for last century?

> https://www.sleepyboy.com/uk/london/escort/alon

Daniel Velascos is the one on that list I recognise. Can be expensive but good - from a couple of client perspectives.

Both of the clients who provided feedback were vanilla or massage clients.

He must be new, I haven’t noticed his ad before “reviewing “ those sites before my London trips.

I've seen his adverts for at least 3 years - https://www.sleepyboy.com/uk/london/escort/22x7CM

Google MICHAEL DAVID BARRE

Seriously, I have lost count of the number of times RM were warned of this.

Just another reason they should be shut down under the dutch code on false advertising.

£100-200 covers 80% of providers.

Out call can be subjective - some providers charge travel expenses within a certain area, others can be £250-300 even in central areas.

That's because it's fake ;-)

"Massage agencies" generally = Fake photos and reviews on their own site, fake reviews on Trustpilot, etc......

The quality of the service is as good as the provider they arbitrarily decided was available and suitable for you - so follows no reliable pattern.

And no, the services provided by apple/google compliant massage apps and in Neals Yard salons are solely therapeutic. They would be prosecuted out of existence and barred by the tech monops if it were any other way.

Make a call on the provider based on their advert - a few things to keep in mind:

Age and experience... older providers who have been in the business for longer are more likely to have a non judgemental attitude towards larger clients, since this is what they have come to expect.

Fitness model type escorts are likely to provide a reduced service to larger men - not exclusively, but for a number of reasons - not limited to the fact that escorting is rarely the chosen path for this type of provider. This applies again to some foreign providers who might have less of an interest in securing regular customers in a country they will be leaving in a few weeks time.

Fake tops - the major European cities are riddled with these. You can usually weed them out by the fact that the adverts make rather hysterical allusions to the essence of being active or masculine. The tone of the advert is often shorthand, arrogant, "look at me" - and the service given will match that attitude.

With literally hundreds of independently advertised masseurs operating in the city, why go to an agency if you are unsure of the service and the provider?

There are agencies that do provide male masseurs and erotic massage - the adverts are usually easy to spot as they are packed full of fake reviews and rather trite euphemisms for male orgasm. Most customers who have given me feedback on these firms tell me that the models are not as advertised - and the services amounted to a "massage with a happy ending".

It's a crude method, but paying to review an escort is what makes the reviews on Sleepyboy.com more reliable. Yes, there are fakes active on Sleepyboy.com, but they are usually far more proactive when it comes to removing them as opposed to RM's real estate money farm - outright disrespect towards genuine advertisers.

The dutch code on advertising implicates RM as a violator on many grounds, but how strictly it is enforced is another matter. Nevertheless, it lingers over them like a dark cloud, and there can't be much respect these days for any advertiser of sex work, let alone one with their track record.

I know there are a number of escorts in the UK who strongly dislike the approach of RM and would happily see it eliminated to open up the market for an alternative. US, I gather has become more dependent upon RM, which could cause some disruption if it suddenly disappears.

With respect to advertisers in London, who use far more than just Rentmen, isn't it about time customers stopped feeding the problem by even attempting to leave feedback there.

If you have to use it, don't even tell the advertiser that's where you found them. Google the number - in most instances, you will find it elsewhere.

The actions and inaction of Rentmen moderators are well documented here. Their pricing arrangements less so.

They have violated the Dutch advertising code on multiple occasions and are at risk of becoming the next Rentboy.

Those reviews on Sleepyboy.com carry 10 times the weight of RM. For starters, you have to pay to submit one. I know a little about the advertiser, and doubt very much he is up to any tricks or bribing reviews like some of the others.

My call is that he has written most of them himself (check the spelling and punctuation quirks), and as for the others, who knows with RM's famous quality control.