Golem

I think this is my core issue. This is a business, after all...some sort of concession should have been offered IMHO in anticipation of repeat business. Maybe 2nd hour Free (everyone wins here)? I’m not a “get something free” kind of person, but am smart enough not to “fool me twice”

Reasonable and forgivable since he did not try to charge. We all have bad days.

What if one were stupid enough to make it something like 1.001?
 
Kevin Slater

Think about it ... the base REALLY doesn't matter, unless it's < 1.0

This is the sexiest talk I have read on this forum.

I think that would depend on the base of the log.
 
Kevin Slater

I misread the title of this thread as Prince of Viagra, and was like "this could be a good story!"

You can keep blaming the messenger(s), or you could take a deep breath and think for a moment why your decisions are making folk (many folk, as evidenced by this thread) uncomfortable with your site: listing guys without their consent or even knowledge, bedding escorts with the promise of some sort of favoritism, etc. Claiming you've changed your methods based on our feedback while simultaneously belligerently defending said actions shows that you still just don't get it and casts a long shadow over your endeavor and fundamentally your judgement.
 
I suspect people want to hear "we now understand why that was a bad idea" rather than "you're dead wrong, but if it'll shut you up we'll stop".
 
Kevin Slater

You keep repeating the same ridiculous deflections.
 
The thing is -- the people reading this thread will make up their own mind based on what they see here.
 
All you are doing is missing an opportunity to course correct. Instead you keep digging a hole by defending your choice to implement an egregious practice, and blaming the people advocating for providers' autonomy for disparaging your name.
 
*shakes head sadly*

What I don't understand about the whole "Rentmen does it too" thing is that your main selling point, in all your posts here, has been that you are better than Rentmen and specifically that you will treat providers better.
 
The proof is in the pudding.

To me, they seem quite sketchy. Until yesterday, the Rentboy.com wiki page was edited so it posed this new website as a Rentboy.com successor, with hyperlinks changed to rentboy.pro. Poor guys probably don't know Wikipedia uses nofollow links to external hosts(so no SEO gained - Google robot will not follow the link) but they might have been still getting some traffic from people landing on Rentboy.com wiki page for whatever reason and clicking on the new link organically.

What I don't understand about the whole "Rentmen does it too" thing is that your main selling point, in all your posts here, has been that you are better than Rentmen and specifically that you will treat providers better.
 
The proof is in the pudding.

This. Posting ads without the escorts' consent doesn't just show lack of judgment. It shows that the site is willing to put its own growth ahead of industry members' autonomy and control over their information online.
 
Frankly, that should scare providers and clients alike. I too want you guys to succeed, but defending this practice when the problems with it are respectfully brought up seems hard to get past.
 
(It's also an incredibly misleading way to advertise -- implying that some providers have decided to trust you and use your services, when in fact they have not.)

He is married now and has a white collar career. Yes he was G4P. No he never scorted, though I'm sure he had MANY offers lol. (I suppose it's always "poss" somone may have been in the right place at the right time and made him a private offer he couldn't refuse lol) But publically he never ran an ad and I've never heard of him scorting during his video days. *sidenote, directly after leaving porn he did try to get into acting, aquired an agent, etc, and was cast on a Reality Show in the Jersey Shore vein, LA muscle beach type of guys sharing a house etc, but I believe it never made it past the pilot episode. I never saw it, only the publicity stills. And I think ALL here would agree lol he was one of the hottest and most beautiful guys who ever got into the biz, and prolly THE sexiest VOICE as well. *he looks the same today btw, with long blond hair down to his white collar, and, even clothed, looks like he's kept his hot bod.

That's all fine as long as they are willing to live with the consequences, of which a few harsh words on an internet forum should be trivial. Instead, for most of the thread there has been a lot of deflecting (other people do it!), externalization (look what you made me do!), and other rhetorical and logical fallacies.
 

 
They could have reset the website and started over. Since it's "free", no one could complain if it went away for a while. I'm pretty sure they don't have free web hosting, so this could have even reduced operational costs. They are beyond defensive, they are trying to absolve themselves of any responsibility for their actions. This thread could have stopped pages ago if they weren't so stubborn about defending bad practices.

Intercourse, as it were?
 
Kevin Slater

Goodness me, the number of times you made me laugh on this forum.
I think I need to hire you for an hour of ... conversation.

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Perhaps not, but that’s a different thread entirely.
 
Kevin Slater

Then they have to live with that language until they change it. But what we are getting instead is an astounding amount of energy put into externalizing and deflecting. Since leaving the language as is is clearly self-serving, this comes across as trying to have it both ways. It shouldn't surprise anyone who has spent any time on this forum that someone would point this out eventually.

I am not going to bulge: did everyone explicitly give consent before the ad was created?
If not, that’s wrong,
Even if 99% were happy.
The 1% who did not give consent could be seriously screwed.

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You said it was months ago. Now this policy change is as of a few days ago?

What I don't understand about the whole "Rentmen does it too" thing is that your main selling point, in all your posts here, has been that you are better than Rentmen and specifically that you will treat providers better.
 
The proof is in the pudding.

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