Kyle Clinton

I don't know, this might not need to be said but I'll say it at the risk of offending others. Please know it's not stated in the spirit of offensiveness...

Maybe I'm going out on a limb but an unswered request might—just might—be unanswered due to the tone of the request. Like a first impression. It matters and a rewind and do-over is almost never going to happen. In this age of digital connect and personal disconnect, in an initial meeting the care in which conversation begins and the thoughtfulness, respectfulness and politeness used can set the tone for everything that follows. In the case of Mitch, one already senses a cautious hesitation to put himself "out there" fully until trust of some sort is established. It might be mentioning something you see stated in his profile that you like or that you thought was funny or creative. His face pics are private and establishing some trust first will show him that you're serious and you've read and considered everything about his profile other than..."Hey, hot body and profile! Can you unlock your private pics for me? Serious here."

When reaching out to an advertiser—especially for the first time—I always remind myself of the risk they take putting themselves online in that way but also, that this guy is a person. He is someone's son, someone's brother, uncle, friend, etc. I'm selling myself to him. It's a dance.

Kindness goes a very, very long way these days and toss in a little light humor and the world pays attention. Now, I'm NOT accusing anyone of not being that who didn't get those pics unlocked. Mitch could have a million reasons for doing what he does. But, those are his and he's allowed them. Even though it's a business, ALL good business relationships are just that...relationsips between people who usually connect on a personal level as much as a business level.

I apologize if I get too wordy from time to time here.

I might get run out of town on a rail for this-- I don't know if responding to this thread constitutes breaking protocol-- but HI!

 

I'm Mitch. Thanks to the users who have left positive feedback on this thread and elsewhere on the site. To the rest-- and to anyone else who might come across this thread with a similar gripe about radio silence from me-- my apologies for the lack of responsiveness. As some of the users have pointed out on this thread and elsewhere, the work advertised accounts for a small fraction of my time. When I'm in my home city, I'm often attending to business that pulls me away from the work advertised in my profile. So if your message has gone unanswered, I'm sorry! Unanswered messages usually mean I'm unavailable or otherwise engaged. I'll do better about that for the rest of the time my profile remains up on the site.

 

Now... About my private album... 99% of the private album requests that aren't accompanied by a message are ignored-- this is especially true for requests from out-of-town profiles. If you want to meet me, your chances will be a lot higher if you simply respond to the questions in the body of my ad. If you're just "browsing" with no intention of meeting, well... I'm not a pornstar (despite being labeled as such on the site) and I'm not as comfortable as other are with having images of my face floating around the internet. I know, I know, some of you could be sharing my private photos without me ever knowing (@Bullakaun, I appreciate your discretion) but if I can help it, I try to reserve revealing my face for clients with serious inquiries.

 

The vast majority of the experiences I've had with clients have been awesome. The few instances when I've been blackmailed, stood-up, ripped off or assaulted have led me to move through this pocket of the world with as much caution as possible. So... there you have it.

 

See you soon, maybe?

 

M

I am one of the fortunate recipients of those Mitch private face pics he allowed me access to a few months back. I can also vouch for his rugged, handsome good looks. We have yet to schedule a first “maiden voyage” appointment but his looks, body, and most importantly, good natured personality (albeit online messages) have won me over. Since we didn’t schedule within a couple weeks my access to the privates was later removed. Not an offensive move to me either. It’s clear he is trying to be as careful as possible about his online presence. I can respect that and look forward to meeting him sooner than later. BTW Mitch...Welcome to the Forum!

I have found that most of my favorite regular escorts make the effort to either thank me after our appointment or to keep in touch with me periodically until the next time we have a chance to see each other. A few have even done both since our very first time together! Though I've never met Axel, I's obvious that he knows how to keep his fans!

 

TruHart1

Yep! Best at it is Axel. Also...TheCouple, TalonReed, Nanddo, and PrinceOfSexy...all of whom are top-notch and I will always call on (and do) regularly. However...smart business operators in all fields do it. It's good business and basic marketing 101. No client should ever expect that they are the only one whose "base" is being "touched" now and then in a text or email. If he begins inviting you to family functions or holidays with his friends then you might be a different kind of "special". Otherwise, a "reach-out to say 'hi'" from time to time is just that...a nice gesture in the spirit of good business practice.

Well I disagree though. I’ve not shared my marketing strategy. I simply based common rates in relation to the expected prices. There’s more to marketing than price.

 

Since you want to compare: Do prices ever stay the same price all the time? No. The reasons may be different for whatever reasons, but there’s still people buying $800 tickets, when you can get it on the same flight for $59. Why are people in many cities paying $1,000+ for the same apartment that was $600, 5 years ago?

 

I’m also not DISCOUNTING my prices. I just want to limit the amount of resistance for first time buyers in certain markets. I feel that the majority of the new clients contacting me, are the Backpage/Craigslist refugees (no offense). Remember, backpage used to be popular for finding Black guys. They’re learning and open to pay more, but like I said...I still plan to keep my two hour, evening and overnight rates the same.

 

And to further prove my point here, I’ll let you (and everyone else) in on a little secret: About 3 years ago, I wanted to shake things up business wise. This is back when rentboy was still around. I put my price to 500 for a couple of weeks. I started immediately getting new clients.

 

At the same time, I didn’t wish to remain at the price point permanently, but it did help boost my value during a time that was not popping like I wanted it to.

 

Even if I take prices down now, I will know when the right time will come to put them back up again.

"There’s more to marketing than price." That's it in a nutshell folks! (well stated) It's a mix of many elements and the mix is never "fixed". There is no single or permanent approach. What works one year, in a particular city/geo graphical market, for a certain type or age of client...fill in the blank, must always be tweeked and adjusted to stay in and on top of the game.

Again, well stated and I agree. I feel that some higher paid escorts do not provide a better service. I have found a number lower than average priced escorts providing super customer service which earns my multiple repeat business.

Agree. Research and referrals important but never "fail-safe". No guarantees. It's when you find the best "fit" that you repeat again and again. Relationships and genuine loyalty (not only for the sake of loyalty) to those we enjoy spending time with can't be discounted.

Wow, nicely stated. A great contribution to this thread.

Thank you @freecahill1965. You are kind. And full disclosure...I’ve agreed to a wide range of rates. Some being the local going rate and a few much higher. It all had to do with the value I perceived after research both here and elsewhere. Generally, it’s turned out that the higher rates equated to a more “top shelf” experience and well worth the increased rate. Those turn out to be regular hires I see more often. Lower rates (average for the local area) tend to either be new to the business building clientele or maybe older in age. Then, there are those who’s perception of their value doesn’t match the service they provide. They almost never get a second appointment nor referral. Service is the secret of any successful business and reputation assures that business stays (and thrives) in business.

As a client, I am not sure how to respond. I do not negotiate price with an escort. If an escorts states $400. I just say thank you for getting back to me just as a courtesy. If they come back with a lower price, I just pass. On the other hand, there are a few hot escorts I see who charge $200. Trust me, they could get more. @latbear4blk has taught me there are great rates to be found. When they are great, I book for multiple hours each time because it is a bargain price when they could easily be charging more. We all want the best experience possible for the best rate. I think a compromise is to offer multihour rates of some sort. Assuming $250 was an inital hour rate, charge $250 for one hour and $400 for two hours $500 for three. If a clients does not want to pay those decreasing prices, you probably do not want to deal with them any ways.

Like you, I never negotiate a service provider's rates. If the stated rate is above what I want to pay for that particular provider, I'll reply with a "thanks for your reply" and either "I'll consider it and get back to you if I decide to book an appointment" or I will end the communication from there on. On occasion there have been one or two who message me back a few minutes later with a reduced rate offer. But, in a service business I don't—and won't—like to not pay a quoted rate from the start. Getting a "deal" for an object like a piece of furniture, car, etc. is one thing because the object is what it is. But service (like a plumber or gardener or someone who cleans your house) providers might have a tendency to alter the quality of service they normally perform because the client is paying less. I prefer to do what I can to avoid that sort of "cloud" over the hour(s) spent on the job. Not much different when rates were posted on RM in the past. If a posted rate was—in my opinion—too high for what was (pics/reviews/preferences/profile/interview) offered, I'd never even bother to make contact and move on to the next. It's about marketing and service and reputation-building. If you're not working enough, it's on you to alter what you control. Life and business isn't fair. Know your worth as you believe it to be BUT know your worth as the market percieves it to be as well. Sometimes the two are not the same...one is in your head and the other puts a roof over your head and food on your table.

Kristian is all the great things written about him here in the forum. Personal experience.

300 bucks for Erotic massage?!

"Erotic Massage" was never on my agenda with Nanddo. The way I understand with all on RM is that donation is for "time spent" so whatever you request is for that. He's "on the road" and doesn't live in the U.S. so likely doesn't have a massage table in tow. That leaves the floor or a bed. If I book a masseur for a massage, it's on a table. Any other surface would mean a different kind of appointment. So...maybe three bills (going rate in SoCal) equates the usual per-hour time spent. Personal experience? I'd have no issue whatsoever spending more time with Nanddo.

Just met with him this past weekend. His pics are absolutely accurate. He may not be exactly 26 yrs old but my very close-up examination and personal experience with him would confirm that he could not be more than a couple (2-3 at most) years off that mark and can certainly can pass for 26 yrs. His skin needs no anti-aging creams at all. I had the best of times and submitting a review on Daddys very soon.

Depends on verification of reviews (does he have any? how many? any on Daddys?). If not, he needs a reality check but maybe not from you. Maybe better the market (another potential client) is best to step in instead of yourself. It's business. Even 500 is high but some tried and tested (and highly experienced or very, very special—define that in your own context) providers can ask for that sort of scale. He dropped to 500 just because you mentioned it which tells me, as a business man, he's not gotten a handle on his business (or a clue) or what he is offering. If you're okay to gamble (and it is Las Vegas), and think the risk is worth it, jump. I can only go by what you wrote but he sounds inexperienced and/or arrogant. Not terrible qualities but if your gut tells you something loud and clear, I'd say listen to it. That you reached out here for thoughts already tells me your inner voice or gut instinct has given you the answer.

AlexanderXXX has been on my “to do” list for a long time. Should you meet up with him, i’d Love to hear your experience. So sexy!

Agree to all the above BUT he cannot cum and he pictures are just a bit deceiving

Maybe he didn't or couldn't cum that day but I'm here to tell you that was not my experience and I happily had a sticky mess to tend to and my cleaning lady promptly threw my bedding in the laundry the next morning (she must've discovered what I must've missed).

If everyone is getting crazy about him he’ll come more often in LA as Kyle Clinton is hoping for! lol

Bet I'm not the only one who feels that way am I PDR?

Earlier this week he had an ad on Rentmen listing southern California, but now it says Barcelona.

He's still in Southern California...L.A. as I write this reply.

Full review being submitted now. His photos and profile description on RM are absolutely accurate. I will be seeing him again at the next opportunity. He's rare. VERY RARE.

Love getting messages like this from my escorts...

 

“Sure,

I want to make you bust while your cock is inside me you saying wait wait I’m close and feel how you cum!“

Delicious!

He’s worth it

I'm banking on that (literally). This will be THE most I've ever spent for a single provider. But there is just something (many things actually) about him and the way in which he responded and conversed with me both on the phone and later by text on WhatsApp. He's articulate, very polite and engaging as well as accommodating. I get absolutely no attitude and only a sense that he's really looking forward to our time together. I've done this enough to know the difference between someone who enjoys what they do and another who is sketchy, distant and preoccupied, etc. Trusting my gut instincts on this one and confident that I'm in for a special evening. No matter how it turns out, I'll post a review and also answer questions in the Forum or via PM as requests come my way.

I’m seeing him for the first time in a few days. Contacting him (phone/WhatsApp) was easy and he actually responds to voice calls more than text. After a sexy conversation we continued via text to confirm details. I have a REALLY good feeling about Axel Hardy and, correct...he’s not “coach class” when it comes to rates but I’m willing to swallow deep for something special to kick off a few months of no hiring to focus more on my business. Hoping for the kind of night I and my right hand can relive over and over until...say...July when the weather heats up.

http://waytofamous.com/images/don-diamont-06.jpg

 

 

TruHart1

Me too! A fantasy all throughout the 80's for me watching Y&R religiously just to get my "fix" of him on the TV screen. Then, in the mid-90's my dream came true when I met him—by chance—at a Jewish High Holidays service (I kid you not!). Very nice guy. A little thicker (physically) with age which even made him sexier. Family man (even sexier) and charming as could be. Box checked!

Max Thieriot:

http://cdn04.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/headlines/2014/04/max-thieriot-talks-shirtless-scene-in-bates-motel.jpg

TruHart1

Oh, Gawd...YES YES YES!

Your review of Junior is still the same as that of Tomas DeCastro.

 

~Boomer~

Oh. You're correct. Didn't notice that was where the duplicate appeared.

I wrote that review of my time with Junior Benz and I wouldn't hesitate to see him again and again. No exaggeration. It looks like the duplicate of it was fixed? I only see the one submitted.

I met up with Chandler Midas a week ago for a couple hours and had a great time. Was it everything I expected? No. Was it fun? Were his description and photos accurate? Was conversation and interaction on all levels rewarding...Yes. Yes. And...YES. Was our time absolute perfection? No. But, I wouldn't place that sort of expectation on any encounter...especially a first-time with anyone. He was "up and at 'em" for most of the evening (as was I) and if anyone had to retreat and say, "I need a breather", it was me...not Chandler (KingmidasXXL).

Scartee's side of his story is his. It may be real. It may be exaggerated or modified. But it's his as he remembers and chooses to share it. That doesn't bode well for Chandler's reputation but look at his reviews on RM (hide your proxy here in the U.S. and see full written parts of those and his replies to clients). My personal experience backs up what I read in those reviews. I now know Chandler on a personal level as an upstanding young man with a good heart and a sexy swagger (read into that as much as you want).

Submitting review today.

Not all of us do pay a lot of attention to them. Escorts aren’t menus.

Menus? Somewhat disagree. But, yes...to a point. After all, we're dealing with human beings. But even in business (outside of this one), your experience, your resume, your education, etc. are "boxes" that are checked or not depending on what you have as a professional to offer or will consider or even what you're good at. It's all about creating a "picture" in addition to photos and profile descriptions. These sorts of items can save us all a lot of time. If you're a hire who is not in to offering "role play" but that's a big part of what I'm looking for, then it saves both of us because I won't be emailing or texting you only to find out that you're not into "role play" on the job. But, yes...important to remember we're all human and treating each other with dignity and respect is vital.

Thanks! I didn't think people would look into the checkmarks that much, but the reasoning makes sense!

Before seriously considering a hire, I read profile, examine pics and the boxes of activities checked. If a check box of something I prefer isn't included in the list, it's something I take note of. For instance, if kissing isn't checked AND/OR is not mentioned in his profile description, I'll pass...no matter how hot the pics. Those check boxes matching or, at least, expanding on the profile description are taken into my personal (and serious) consideration.