I've seen both of them. I saw Jeremiah first in 2009 when he was in Miami and he set th standard for me for a long time. Have seen him in various places since then, most recently last year, and it wasn't as good, but he may have just been having an off day. EuroAdam was a wow for me and did a great job on the massage and the connectivity all the way through. PM for other details. I would generally agree with the assessment in this thread.