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I think this thread has gone on so long that maybe you missed my point too. The point I was making was that tone of the review plus the tone of TH's ad indicate to me he is not really an escort for everyone. Having looked at several of Azdr's reviews, I'm getting the feeling that many of the guys he really likes might not be escorts that a large majority of us would like. I'm sure Azdr has met many escorts that a majority would like. But since Azdr's interests do not encompass kissing and intercourse, he is going to like guys that many of us would probably classify as only minimally to moderately interactive. These are the kind of niches that straight escorts would often be expected to occupy. And Azdr has mentioned he doesn't mind seeing straight escorts.

You're missing my point. When a review has to explicitly state that 'interaction with TH will very much depend on the ol' "chemistry" thing', in my opinion that's a red flag. It does not give me a good feeling at all about an escort. The best escorts work with the client. This sounds to me like a warning that it's very possible for him and the client not to be compatible. But I am not surprised by the statement. It goes along with the vibe I got from his ad

I wouldn't say chemistry on the part of the escort is never a concern. But haven't I read Juan Bruno and other 'stellar' escorts remark that there is usually something they can concentrate on with most clients that helps them 'break the ice' whether it's a nice smile, engaging personality, etc.

While I would like more detail to confirm, I'm pretty sure after reading the review that this escort is a straight guy whose repertoire is too limited to be of interest to me. The mention of 'chemistry' is also troublesome. While anyone can have bad chemistry, you don't really hear about it being a limiting factor so much in the star escorts on this Forum like Juan Bruno, Alec Andrews, or Mike Gaite.

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I'm not sure what you are describing is really 'being in love' and if it is, it's more on the unusual side. The majority of people I know while there may be multiple people they love are not 'in love' with multiple people at one time. Some people are polyamory. But it's not the norm. But actually being in love with an escort in most cases is probably not a good thing. In general how many people can tolerate being in love with anyone, escort or not, frequently be with them/have sex with them (actions that are normally considered things that bond and strengthen relationships), and know that in spite of all the time and sex together that the other person doesn't feel the same way about them. The majority of the people I know would get depressed about the fact that the other person isn't in love with them. It doesn't lead to a good mental health situation. If it did, then why would there be so many tragedies written about unrequited love. In an unrequited love situation it would be too easy for the object of affection, even without meaning to, to take advantage. In an escort/client situation, an escort who is a mensch will do everything he can to make sure the client is let down easily, not take advantage of the situation, and in many cases probably needs to distance himself from the client as how is the client supposed to get over the object of his affection when presented with him on a frequent basis. But I am out of this thread. I'm even going to pick the 'unfollow' option.

And people who know them and care about them don't offer them alcohol. In the same way that an escort who knows his client has developed an unhealthy attraction to him should quit seeing the client and not fan the flames.

There's a reason you aren't supposed to feed bears in a zoo or you don't take an alcoholic to a bar. You don't keep offering someone something that they can never have. I'd say this goes doubly for sex with all the endorphins it produces. This sounds very nice. But this sounds more like love as opposed to "being in love". Any reputable mental health/relationship expert will tell you that if you are in love with someone unobtainable the best thing to do is distance yourself-allow the immediacy of the emotion to fade. Find a hobby.

Thanks My former chaplain where I used to live would not agree-or at least he based his sermon on the fact that the heart may want what it wants. But that's why we have intellect for control. If the heart wants something bad like a child wants candy, we adults prevent it. I would say that someone with unrequited love may not be able to control how he feels. An escort who keeps seeing a client under those circumstances is just egging the client on-giving him groundless hope. It's like administering heroin to a heroin addict. If the escort continues seeing the client, there's a chance that the client becomes even more entangled. Sex and endorphins combined with the loneliness a lot of clients feel are a potent brew. Years ago I was smart enough to stop seeing an escort. I didn't even love him. But I liked him. I wanted to be friends. I don't think the escort particularly disliked me. He even had mentioned that I wasn't difficult to please. But I wanted to be a friend and not a client. I was fairly sure that was never going to happen. It was difficult. I can't even imagine how much more difficult it would have been had I actually been in love with him. If I had loved him, I might not have been able to keep myself from hiring him.

I don't remember Mike describing a Romeo and Juliet scenario. You can fall in love without declaring to someone that your life is over if they don't reciprocate. But in general I'd say people don't have sex with people they hate. They have some feeling of like or lust for the partner. Once you like/lust someone, you can't always control how you feel about them or how the feelings develop-especially if you add sex into the mix. Most people aren't Mr. Spock planning out their relationship feelings in advance. "Barely even friends, then somebody bends unexpectedly" I didn't realize this query was supposed to be restricted to escorts. If I was wrong in answering it, I'm sorry. The origin of the quote is rather unsavory. I hate myself when I use it. But it seems so apropos sometimes I can't help myself. The sordid history of the quote is that Woody Allen said it in an article describing his love affair with his one time step-daughter now wife Soon-Yi (Previn) Allen around the time he left Mia Farrow. If that doesn't revolt you, this article might. Woody Allen’s relationship with Soon-Yi is creepier than you could imagine By Derrick Bryson Taylor July 30, 2015 | 9:35am Woody Allen and Soon-Yi Previn Photo: FilmMagic Woody Allen says his 23-year relationship with Soon-Yi Previn worked because of their previous parent-child relationship. “I’m 35 years older, and somehow, through no fault of mine or hers, the dynamic worked,” the 79-year-old director told NPR in an interview published Wednesday. “I was paternal. She responded to someone who was paternal.” “She deferred to me, and I was happy to give her an enormous amount of decision-making just as a gift and let her take charge of so many things,” he continued. “She flourished. It was just a good luck thing.” But the couple holds contradictory views on why their relationship worked. Previn, 44, told Time in 1992, “To think that Woody was in any way a father or stepfather to me is laughable.” The two began their relationship in the late ’80s when Allen was dating Mia Farrow, with whom he adopted several children. Previn is Farrow’s adopted daughter from her failed marriage to composer André Previn. “I started the relationship with her and I thought it would just be a fling. It wouldn’t be serious, but it had a life of its own. And I never thought it would be anything more. Then we started going together, then we started living together, and we were enjoying it. And the age difference didn’t seem to matter. It seemed to work in our favor actually,” Allen said of their romance. Allen, Previn and their children walk down Fifth Avenue during the Easter parade on April 20, 2003. Photo: Getty Images Allen and Previn married in 1997 and have two adopted children together. “She enjoyed being introduced to many, many things that I knew from experience, and I enjoyed showing her those things. She took them, and outstripped me in certain areas that I showed her,” he continued. “That’s why I’m a big believer in luck. I feel that you can’t orchestrate those things. Two people come along and they have a trillion exquisite needs and neuroses and nuances and they have to mesh, and if one of them doesn’t mesh, it causes a lot of trouble. It’s like the trace vitamin not being in your body. It’s a tiny little thing, but if you don’t have it you die.” Acknowledging that it’s often said that relationships require “work,” Allen candidly disagreed with the idea. “If you feel that you have to work at it — a constant business of looking the other way, sweeping stuff under the rug, compromising — it’s not working.”

I'm not sure I understand your point. My point is that emotions are powerful things. We can 'say' whatever we want-such as-"I know being with an escort is a somewhat of a fantasy. I would never fall in love with an escort." However, we aren't taking about intelligence and understanding. We are talking about the heart. As the title of a famous song notes, "Why Do Fools Fall In Love". Hearts and love are not rational. As a famous director once said, "The heart wants what it wants." A large proportion of the time it doesn't respond to logic. Unless an escort reciprocates those feelings for the client, why would he want to continue meeting the client? In most cases it's just going to make the client fall in deeper and cause further hurt since the client won't ever be able to have what his heart desires.

I think some are using too broad a brush for the term 'love' here. I think Mike is talking about a client(s) stating they are 'falling' in love/have fallen 'in love' with him. I think in most cases the difference between liking, general love, and romantic love would be apparent from the context at the time the information is given. I think the only fair thing to do is not see the client anymore. I'm not saying it's the escort's fault in most cases unless the escort is a scuzzbucket who is leading the client on to keep getting hired. If the escort continues to see the client once the client expresses his feelings, how can the client not help but feel the escort on some level must like him too even if the escort says he only likes the client as a friend?

I'm a Premium Member too. But when I looked at his ad yesterday after reading this thread, his Privates were fully Private. So even if you have a membership you still have to ask for a password. I checked today and same situation.

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Sorry to be off topic. But I just had to say how incredible your new profile picture is Killian. I need to take a look at your ad to see whether I can see a full sized version.