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Thanks for the warnings, guys, about Ace -- he's off the list.

I've read past comments on the forum about these guys but does anyone have any recent personal experiences: https://rentmen.eu/AceQuinn (once known as JoshBrett and visiting LA) https://rent.men/CaribbeanPower Thanks.

No recommendations?

Can anybody recommend providers in L.A. who are great at mutual nipple play? Thanks in advance.

Thanks everybody, especially those who gave me specific times. I wasn't expecting this much discussion -- this is my most responded-to post so far. All the info is helpful. And as much as I would like multi-hour sessions all the time, the budget doesn't allow for that. Keep the comments coming!

Thanks Keenan. I always include foreplay with sex So how much time would you think is foreplay plus sex?

How much of a one-hour session is actual sex? Is it 20, 30, 40, 60 minutes, et? I'd appreciate a timetable of your typical session broken down by minutes. Just trying to figure out what is typical -- because it seems to vary by provider.

I tried to start a conversation with you as well, PDR. But system wouldn't allow me to do that

One of my faves -- have seen him a few times already. Aside from the smokin' hot body, he intuitively knows what you want and delivers.

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Anybody with any experience on this guy, visiting LA? https://rentmen.eu/geovanni_galeano

Thanks very much. Anyone else with recommendations?

Looking for muscle recommendations in Los Angeles for around Jun 19 to Jun 25. Must haves: - Very muscular to bodybuilder types. - Deep kissing and mutual oral. Ripped muscle and sensitive nips would be great. Feel free to PM. And yes, I already know about Kerry Slate, an excellent hire. Thanks in advance.

I saw Kristian last year. Very reasonable rates.

Here's another vote for @tristanbaldwin for whom kissing is a necessary and major part of his encounters.

You need to get on their mailing list (by signing up for free). They then send you info occasionally and who is available for hire.

They mostly make videos. But apparently, you can hire their wrestlers for private matches.

According to Wrestler4Hire, Christian Thorn is available for private matches. Has anyone met him? Some pics: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41i2etwfU5L.jpg http://wrestler4hire.com/pages/view_gallery/album/563

The video is called Body Worship 39 with Talvin DeMachio and Rocky. Produced by BG Enterprise who also did several wrestling and body worship videos. This was all in the 1980s and 1990s, and so pre-dates Can-Am and BG East. The vids are floating around the Internet although they're trying to re-release them slowly as "new" at bgwrestlemax.com. This is supposedly part 2 of the video: http://www.gayporno.fm/body-worship-39-part-2_500350.html They also did a wrestling vid together called Fantasy Oil Wrestling 4 for the same company: https://www.gayforit.eu/video/154307/Fantasy-Oil-Wrestling-4 https://www.gayforit.eu/video/227466/Talvin-Demachio--Rocky--Fantasy-Oil-Wrestling-4-Part-2

Oddly enough, Mikey, I'm more of a loner with other aspects of my life -- preferring to do things by myself than in a crowd. But with fitness, if I don't have the motivation of a class, I quit because it's either boring or too difficult.

I was an on-again/off-again gym goer in my 20s but would always stop after a few weeks because of boredom. Eventually, I quit doing any exercise. By the time I turned 50, my body showed the ill effects of inactivity. It wasn't pretty plus I had to take pills for high cholesterol. So I started Crossfit at 50. Couldn't even finish the warmup, which was to run around an industrial building three times. Halfway through the second time, I stopped and felt like throwing up. Spent about half an hour by myself in the parking lot trying to recover, completely missing the training workout. The coach came out to check on me a few times to be sure that I was okay. When I went home, I wrote the gym owner and said that Crossfit was too tough for me. She wrote me back twice that week and said that it's normal to have issues at first. But they would work with me and scale the workouts to my level. And I would get better. She wanted me to give them another try. So after a week, I went back and they did what they said they would. It was a long and exhausting road. But eight years later, I'm still doing Crossfit three days a week, only missing a session when I'm on vacation or sick. I lost 30 pounds in the first four months (with the Paleo diet -- no carbs) and after about a year, ditched the cholesterol pills. I can now run a mile without stopping, do Olympic lifts, and climb a rope (slowly). Competed in my first Crossfit competition, a local one, many years ago -- came in close to last place for my age group. This year, I finished my second global Crossfit Open and moved up to the middle of the pack worldwide in my age group. After decades of being an overweight nerd, I've turned into a jock in my fifties. I've stuck with Crossfit because of the variety: every workout is different so I'm never bored. My entire body gets a workout. There's also a lot of camaraderie with the 20-somethings who finish the workout first encouraging people like me who usually finish last. Since each workout is a class, everybody knows everybody else's name, and tries to integrate newcomers as quickly as possible. The coaches are on our case if we try to do too much or too little. At the highest levels, Crossfit is no harder than doing any sport. I'm never going to compete at the Crossfit Games on TV but fitness runners won't be running for the Olympics and weekend basketball players won't be playing for the NBA. Critics usually forget to mention that, as someone here has already stated, all workouts are scalable. Which is how a senior citizen beginner who may be lifting with a plastic pipe works out at the same time as a college jock who is breaking personal barbell records. We've had pregnant women working out until 2-3 weeks before giving birth and then coming back four weeks after. No mom-bods for these ladies. Our latest member is around 72 and in just a couple of months, he's gone from being barely able to move to lifting light weights, rowing, biking, and doing pushups. He'll probably be joining our mile runs in a few months. To me the worst thing about Crossfit is not the difficulty -- everybody who sticks with it, no matter their physical shape when they started, eventually ends up doing the workouts. It's the cost: $150 a month is average for my area (SoCal). It's higher in other places. If you want to try Crossfit -- checkout several boxes. Nearly all will let you do one beginner workout for free. Like anything else, some affiliates are better than others. I had to try out five gyms before settling on my current one.

I'm thrilled you're moving west. I hope your dad follows suit.

None better at nipple play in Los Angeles than Kristian Elix. He kisses like a dream and is versatile. https://rentmen.eu/KristianLA He also has a fit and muscular body, a sculpted face that his private pics don't do justice to, and a well-kept place.

Thanks.

What does "following" someone do? I thought that if you followed someone that you'd get an alert if he posted. But that doesn't seem to be happening.