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Desantis looks like he takes dick like a champ in that picture. For real.

I freaking love these threads because this is my wheelhouse. lol As far as CK, there is an element of "Customer Lifetime Value" (CLV) they use that can vary drastically. My CEO has kept CK status for the past four years flying less than 20,000 EQMs (LPs now) per year, including a renewal now for 2023. This was because he flew JFK-China and back, in paid J (business), twice a month, for almost a decade. AA keeps people like that close to the heart because they know their future spending potential is through the roof, and it is simply good business to retain them even when they're not actively flying. That said, your second point is right on. I control the "airline of choice" for my company and in the beginning, I was a loyal US Airways (Chairmans Preferred) and subsequently AA. So I picked AA for our corporate travel and now that we've grown exponentially, so does our employee contracted travel. AA hands out a small handful of CK memberships to us each year to give to execs or those who travel all the time but wouldn't otherwise qualify for CK. I can write about this for hours, but that's the general gist here. As far as the phone even for EPs, just disregard that message and keep holding. They'll pickup in less than five minutes generally -- they just do that to get the non-urgent people off the phone and into a later position in the call queue. IROPS is one of the most valuable things about higher-level status. There are times I have landed and turned my phone on to a notification AA has already rebooked me on a new flight or even double/triple booked me on multiple options so in case that goes tits up, I have a seat on a few other flights all within the next hour or three. You can't put a price on that. From what I can see in the AA EXP/CK group on Facebook, even people who had 500,000, 750,000, or even 1M LPs in 2022 failed to quality for CK. I'd give almost anything to see their algorithm or decision process in these scenarios. With the new program where you can spend your way to LPs, I actually believe that matters less and less for high-level status. As a business, people can easily put six figures of spend monthly on a credit card, but part of me thinks that AA is looking at the value you give the airline on flying their metal butt-in-seat. Not sure on that though but go back to my CLV post above. Again, I would love for someone to leak the private rules here. Also for the upgrades, it is very dependent on your home base. You're generally ex-DFW, right? There are thousands of CKs in that market all taking the upgrades from EPs and lower status. I'm BOS based and we have a huge market here but a very distributed airport that is not a hub for anyone. Equally Delta, United, American, JetBlue. It's really nice actually. I am upgraded almost 95% of the time and it rare I don't get an upgrade, even when I was an EP from like 2012-2019. I can also land a confirmed SWU time of booking on the BOS-LHR flight every single time. Hasn't been a time I was waitlisted. We (BOS) are not competing with as many status flyers as DFW, ORD, CLT/PHX, etc. Exact same. If you know how to play the game, you can get five-figure value redemptions (still) doing it the right way. There was a friend of mine who bragged recently about using something like 50,000 miles (each way!) on BOS-MCO or BOS-ORD (can't remember) and I died a little inside. Back in the day with US Airways Dividend Miles, I did BOS-MUC/CDG-BKK-SYD-BKK-LHR-BOS for 90,000 miles in FIRST (not even Business) and like $50 in cash. That was a total fucking steal. Those days are mostly gone but you can still find good uses for partner redemptions with AA and UA miles. Although Delta has gone off the rails with their flexible redemption criteria where a J seat anywhere out of North America is like 700,000 skypesos these days. Like WTF, seriously? I think with CX coming back "online" finally since the start of the pandemic, that will take some of the OneWorld load off QF (and others) for redemptions, plus HKG is just an amazing airport and a great place to transit. But we'll see how that plays out in the next 12-18 months. People in the industry aren't confident that Cathay Pacific will stage a complete comeback which is sad.

Anyone with recent experience (past 12 months) with this guy? This is the only thread I can find, and there are more than a couple warnings above -- but he has 54 reviews on a profile that is 8 years old on RM -- and that has to say something good.

Sure it does, but his profile is a year and a half old, and he has a dozen reviews all five stars. That mean at least double that amount (probably triple) have met him and just haven't reviewed. That's good enough of a reference to meet if he and I were in the same city or whatnot. Definitely hot as hell.

Very, very interesting post. I'm in this industry (web3, crypto, NFTs; not as a provider) and was just off to sleep here but wanted to comment as a bookmark and process your post tomorrow. At the very least I want to know more about what you're working on for sure.

I think you’re right. Because deep down that’s why I got mine too. A friend of mine got it and posted a picture on social media and it looked horrible. I hauled my ass to get a vaccine so fast after that. Yep.

That's the crux of the problem. They tied up assets in really long, illiquid bets (which were completely safe, by the way) and people came running for their money. There is a social media aspect here that could be listed as a contributing factor in all of this. Something banks never had to deal with in centuries and decades past.

You're good. It died out mostly because "the gays" (read: me! lol) all fucking mobilized because we know how to handle a freaking virus. It's pretty cool on paper to see how it was actually dealt with. Don't let my comment diminish your post, please. Definitely find a vaccine, and sorry I can't help there. But I also meant to reassure you that if you can't find one right away, don't let that distract you from your mission. You're probably more likely to get into a car accident and get hurt on the way to meet up with someone than you are from MP.

It's definitely down -- I have two completely separate internet connections available at the moment and they both can't access the site.

Is it truly a problem (challenge) are we just witnessing unbridled capitalism? 👀

I'd love to debate the entire notion of fractional reserve banking though. Let's look at it from the other side of the room: Casinos are required to hold 1:1 dollars for every chip on the floor at all times, with absolutely no exceptions, ever. So why do we let banks take in $100 and only keep $1 of that in their vaults? (<-- rhetorical, I know the answer)

I argue that they're all mostly aware, but it is simply not feasible to spread funds out across 50, 100, or 500 bank accounts. It's an operational nightmare and simply not possible for anyone except the smallest coffee shops or local restaurants. $250k might sound like a good amount of money to most people, but in the normal course of business, it is peanuts when you're running SG&A (payroll, payables, receivables, etc.) on a regular basis for any company that has over say 10-15 employees. It's also unrealistic to hold the view that every 10-15+ person company should do a stress test on their bank’s balance sheet every three months just to hold a deposit account.

I have a tech startup. Not only do we have (had?) and account at SVB, but a couple of our VC partners did as well. It's a complete cluster fuck at the moment. Word on the street is that there should be an announcement by tomorrow morning that either a) the FDIC will back all the accounts regardless of the limit or b) they are being absorbed into JP Morgan Chase or one of the 'too big to fail' banks. This is what happened to WaMu (Washington Mutual) in 2008. All I know is we have four vendors who have all stopped operating at the moment, and we are in crisis mode here. For example, we use Airbase.com for payments, and their operations were with SVB. Any payments "in transit" as of late-Thursday are up in the air with no date they will be delivered. Luckily we had three* banking partners and our money spread out so SVB won't bring us down. But I also know at least half a dozen startups whos payroll couldn't run on Friday and they're shit out of luck unless something happens tomorrow morning. Everyone is watching. *We had four banking partners but Silvergate Bank was one of them and they folded two weeks ago, but that's a whole other story. Between them and SVB, we're down to two banks. While airplanes can fly on two engines, I prefer four since we're in a moderate/high risk industry.

Not really. I hate to say this and come off this way, but as a provider you're the commodity. You aren't able to review clients any more than Amazon can review its customers. Walmart isn't going to not do a business with a customer based on Amazon's experience -- they will form their own opinions based on their experiences. The closest thing we have to this is the government "no fly list" for airlines, but unfortunately there isn't a central organization dictating the actions each provider must take as a rule of engagement. Sure, as a provider you can ban them or talk about them occasionally here and there, but there are 1,000s of clients for every provider and clients can easily change numbers and names. Conceptually your question isn't a bad idea but there's no way to execute. Each provider is free to do business based on their own experiences with each client. Based on your profile, you've been in the game for ~8 years. I'm sure you have your own method of vetting by now and I hope it works for you. It sucks because the shitty clients give us (the good ones) a bad name. Good luck. https://app.rent.men/SportBud

I’ve never had a provider asked me for deposit, ever. Why? My approach to them is also very serious, straightforward, and has a lot of substance behind it. I have a client profile with description and pictures. Reviews I have written are all on that profile. They’re visible to other providers. I give them my name and information about me and I ask meaningful questions of them. All of the above carries weight when the provider is doing the mental math on the ROI for engaging with me. Apparently they’ve all decided, for a pure business perspective, than I’m a client that is serious and don’t require a deposit and it’s worked out very well all around. YMMV. I’m sure there are providers out there with a very strict rule that they require a deposit from everyone. I just haven’t run into them.

God dam I need a cigarette after reading that. And I don't even smoke. Well done. 🤤

You seem to know a lot about this. 😎 I have a bookmark and login for both Chainalysis and CipherTrace sitting right here next to me. Both are insanely expensive and you have to be vetted to even get a discussion going with these two companies. Both are the ones used by the IRS, DHS, and FBI. It's what my company does. I'm in this space and probably know more about crypto than anyone on here, but you seem to have a solid grasp on everything based on your reply. But still, you'd be fucking floored by what you can see. Imagine if you could track the real-time moment of every hundred-dollar bill serial number in existence. I'd share a screenshot if there wasn't a risk of someone seeing it and us losing a lot. I genuinely believe that's why the government even entertains the thought of crypto being a thing. It's vastly superior to cash when it comes down to surveillance. lol

If we are traveling together, they sit next to me, and that means First domestic and Business overseas. Only exception is when we're together and I haven't paid for First myself -- I am solely relying on an upgrade for me and a companion. This is usually for shorter (under two hour) flights. When it is more than that, I pay for the First seats for both of us. When short flights, I have the highest status on American (Conciergy Key) and always get the upgrade unless First is sold out with revenue passengers. No exceptions to this rule 99% of the time. But I digress, basic rule is when we're together, we ALWAYS sit together and I am never in the back of the bus, lol. 🤣 For them traveling solo, it really depends on a combination of the fare, the length of the flight, and to be brutally honest: the size of the provider. I have a wide range and like everyone from the slimmer smaller jocks to the huge 6'4 bodybuilders. I would never put the latter in an economy or coach seat, even for a one-hour flight. The former, why not sometimes? My view is they don't "need" the extra space as much, especially for a shorter flight.. lol That said, I have probably paid for flights a sum total of ten times when they weren't flying with me. Of those, none were overseas and for domestic, nine of the ten were first class. I figure if I am going to hire the best of the best (which is really my criteria in almost all cases), they deserve the best from me. That stance has served me well in my personal life, my business life, and my hiring life. 😎

Yeas. Mostly from providers that I have hired more than once and that I have formed that connection with. At the end of the day, it's simply great marketing and good business. There is one in particular that I would hire as my VP of Marketing in a heartbeat. He's so great at follow-up and maintaining communication that he will forever get my cash, lol.

Yea. I'm a stereotypical "bear" and my partner of 14 years was fucking jacked. Like IFBB stage competition level jacked. The one thing I learned a long time ago is that natural masculinity + being calm and cool and comfortable + self-confidence = being able to attract anyone you want.

Alright, so how do you handle something like this exchange I had yesterday? Note the provider had three pictures, all are headless and from the shoulders down. ME/Client: "Hey man. Love your profile. Are you always in [MY CITY] or just visiting? I'm away this week but get home on Thursday and would be interested in spending some time together on Friday evening or Saturday evening if you're local. I'm [NAME]. More information about me and pictures are in my client profile on here if you want to take a look. " HIM/Provider: "Hi [NAME]. I’m local to [MY CITY], yes. I’m [HIS NAME]. Anytime you want to book let me know and be well. Safe travels" Me/Client: "Thanks for the quick reply, way cool. Any chance you have a few more pics you can share before I can commit to some time? That would be helpful for me and I am trying not to come off as a pic collector because I know most guys are just looking for pics and don't follow through. 🙂" HIM/Provider: "No problem. Here you go..." [SENDS FIVE PICS] Now here is the dilemma. I'm really not attracted to his face or his look now that I have seen more. The faceless pics were kind of hot, but I need the whole package, and it's just not there now. So, what is the appropriate response here as a client who doesn't intend to book? Just a "Thank you" seems too short so I didn't reply at all and that was last night. What should I say, if anything? I also don't think I can be 100% authentic here and say the true reason: "Thanks for the pictures. After looking at them, I have decided we aren't a match. Be safe and have a good weekend." That's just -- mean? I'm genuinely curious from the view of providers on here, because otherwise without a response, I am just a pic collector to this provider -- which was certainly not the case. The reason for this post is so that we can all learn, not just myself.

As someone who runs a SaaS (Software/Subscription as a Service) company, I have two pretty huge pieces of advice here for every reader of this thread, both providers and clients alike. They’re a little complicated but this is me 💯% swearing the return on investment is here and anyone who buys stuff online should be doing this already. If not, take time out of your schedule and reorganize over the next few weeks: First: Always, always, always pay for an entire year up front for sites and software you have already determined you like and already see good value in the service. Sure, trial them for a month or two but pay for it yearly after you see the value the site brings. Almost every single one typically offers at least a two month discount (e.g, $99/year vs. $9.99/month) which comes out to a 17% to 20% discount at minimum (sometimes more!) and let’s be honest… prices never ever decrease. They only increase so you’re locked in for the remainder at an even better discount when that happens. This applies to everything from Netflix to Hulu to Amazon Prime to every site that has monthly subscriptions. You always come out ahead, and the company backing the site itself loves the extra revenue their finance folks can recognize on their balance sheet. Total win-win all around. Second: Almost every major bank and credit card company allows this now, so leverage online banking tools from your bank or payment method’s site to create separate “virtual cards” unique to every merchant or website. Don’t pay with bank debits ever. Don’t use your main VISA/MC/AMEX card number that’s physically in your pocket either. At your financial institution site, in 2023, you can typically issue a new private card number and set a spend limit for each individual site you want to subscribe. For example, you can say a company is only allowed to charge $10/month to this virtual card. Sure, it requires a little bit more effort during the initial sign-up but once you’re in the habit, the benefits far, far outweigh the small inconvenience at the time and will make your finances exponentially easier to manage long after the fact. Anytime a site changes terms like Rent.men without notification, their charge is declined. Rent.men goes from $9.95 to $19.95 per change? Automatically declined. I personally probably have 60-90 virtual cards in regular use for everything at any given time. Pro tip: Label them well and using consistent naming conventions Benefit #1: Doing this protects you when your physical card is compromised or lost, something we all know happens regularly these days and can be a royal pain in the ass. With this model in place, you don’t need to re-enter your card everywhere when it happens. Not only software sites and streaming services, but little league fees for your kids, accounts at bookstores or libraries in town, saved payment methods at PayPal or Airline websites or Amazon or GNC.com or 5,000 other eCommerce sites. Trust me here, generating separate virtual cards for all your online activities —IS— a proven lifesaver not only with time but as a budget control stop gap measure. Benefit #2: It prevents sites from charging more without notice. It reverses the roles and puts you in control of the money and debits and you can easily shut off a virtual card where the site doesn’t make it easy to cancel. “Hold the fuck up! You want me to wait on the phone to call to cancel and listen to someone for ten minutes trying to convince me otherwise??” — in this separate card for each site model, you login to your bank and toggle that specific card tied to that site to the off position and never speak to them again. They automatically close your account after 30 days of declined payments. Win-win all around. ————————— That’s all for now typing from my phone at 3:15 AM. I have a half dozen other tips in these scenarios as this type of model is at the core at what my corporation does, but the ones above are mutually beneficial all around. Well, except shutting off virtual cards for individual sites that don’t offer an easy method to cancel recurring charges (think gyms and health/fitness clubs). But that’s on the company for making it harder to cancel. SaaS platforms should be able to flick on and off each month just a light ditch. That’s simply good business in 2023 where you do t have a 12 month or longer contract. This stuff is kind of my wheelhouse, so if anybody has any questions on the intricacies of how any of this works, feel free to post. My only goal is to educate and help everyone here not only with Rent.men, but the other 20-30 sites we all pay monthly for these days. It also helps you set overall budgets (and stick with them!) on sites like OnlyFans so they don’t get out of hand. 👀😳🤣😎 I hope this post was helpful to many others in the forum Upvotes or reactions are very much appreciated to show thanks and let me know if contributing like this is something I should do more. Anyway hope ya’ll got laid this past weekend. multiple times. 😳🍆

Just read through this entire thread, and there's a lot to unpack here. My $0.02 as a client: Removing the hiring aspect from this, we all have to recognize there are people in the world who just are shitty in their approach to almost everything -- and that is the norm. If I had a nickel for every time someone said "Hi!" on one of the apps and nothing more I could buy a few new Macbooks. If you're going to approach anyone in life outside of real person-to-person interactions, come at it with substance. Actually, that can be said for face-to-face too. That said, the provider took the initial step and posted an advertisement, so it's on the client to fully engage from there. I have never sent less than three sentences that include my name, what I am looking for, and a genuine introduction. I find this is always well received and my no-response rate is only about 1%. For me, I have all the time in the world and can make almost anything happen. I also don't really care about rates or prices as nothing is really off the table unless you're coming at me with $1,000/hour or something stupid like that. However, I am not one of those who is only looking for a one-hour sexual encounter and only into the mechanical aspect. I want to get a feel for a provider and our chemistry over text before committing to meeting up, however short or brief that might be. The 'back and forth' for me is part of the thrill, but I also try to disclose that in the beginning. When I approach a provider, I let it be known that I am looking for a more meaningful longer-term arrangement, so their interactions with me are more of an investment on their part. I also fully understand they can't know I am serious about that until after our initial meeting. I'm a pretty successful business owner and have invested eight figures in customer support. I know how fucking horrible "customers" (or clients in this case) can be overall, so all my interactions are from that lens. This thread has been truly helpful.

I turned 45 years old this past year and have mostly always been a total top my entire life since I came out when I was 21-22 years old. The few times I got fucked, it was uncomfortable and just not my thing -- and they weren't even especially big. Truthfully, I can't place my finger on the exact moment about one year ago when I was sitting at my computer and discovered Rent.men for the first time. Although I recall being in the mindset of "If you're gonna pay for this, get exactly what you want..." The funny part is that position (top or bottom) and cock size never was part of my equation at the time. My focus was mainly on other things such as a bodybuilder-type body, a real masculine presence, natural charisma that isn't "work", having physical features like a short beard or a sandpaper-ish 5'oclock shadow, a few "marks on the body" (e.g., not perfectly smooth skin) and face wrinkles (so let's say over 35 yo), among at least a dozen other things. I narrowed my list down from everyone in the USA to just a half dozen guys. Three of the six were semi-local (BOS/NYC/PHL/DC), so I didn't have to travel far for them so they were all on the table for hiring. Of the three, one of them was a total top and a pretty large cock. At least much larger than anything I had let near my hole in the prior 23-24 years. I met with all three and wound up topping the other two, but when I met this last guy, his presence in person was so damned comfortable that I almost immediately confessed to not having genuinely had a good fuck in my life. That was ALL he needed to hear. Fast forward about nine months to today, and I can still replay the entire thing in my head moment by moment. It was some of the hottest sex I have had in my life. He was so skilled he made me freaking love it. There wasn't a single moment where I felt uncomfortable or like it was too big. I single-handedly witnessed what a truly amazing top someone can be when they know what they're doing. I'm thankful he and I don't live in the same city because otherwise I would be filing for bankruptcy at the moment. LOL.

You know what -- Ben isn't even typically my "go to type" but shit I want to hire him just because of his posts, his stellar reputation, and simply how awesome he comes off on here. Oh, and I absolutely will at some point. Not even for sex per se, I just want to have dinner with the dude. For real.