Marc in Calif

I think the real clown has outed himself in this thread. A really triggered clown, too. I pity the next massage provider you hire. 🙄

Yes. So he clearly indicated that a HE was not part of his service at that spa whether you achieved it yourself or he assisted. That's his decision to make. This is the real world. You misjudged the situation, no matter how long he spent "on the inner thigh." In a professional spa situation, your only job is to lie there and enjoy what's happening — and not make your own "moves."

You're completely wrong. How did Ivan know that he "violated the customers [sic] boundaries"? Did DirtyHarry stop Ivan's hand from touching his inner thighs? No. The client let it continue. At that point, a client has several options: 1. Move the client's own hand to his erection to signal he wants to jerk himself off. Maybe the masseur helps him, and maybe he doesn't. 2. Ask Ivan to jerk him off. 3. Tell Ivan to stop and move somewhere else. 4. Ask to touch Ivan. A "sensual" massage will include those erogenous zones like the butt and inner thighs. It can sometimes be more. But it's up to BOTH the masseur and the client to agree on any extra moves. Either one should tell the other to STOP if a boundary is crossed.

Has anyone seen Gabriel in his role as an escort or (previously) masseur? I like what I see in his description and private pics. https://rent.men/Gabriel_M

Wanderoz didn't say that he had a massage with this provider — only that he saw a negative massage review. If the guy doesn't have massage skills, but he's cute and everything else that Wanderoz likes in a sexual partner, why question his inclination?

I hope you use a throwaway WA number rather than your regular phone number. Could be a common scammer.

Does his chest tattoo have text to read? What does it say?

I haven't gone for repeat visits. Maybe he's one of those providers who suddenly "become" less inhibited with returning clients. You know — to guarantee you'll come back next time to see how many more extras you might get. 🙂

Did you really mean to write "2 minutes"? That's not "late" at all.

Along with an itemized bill for every service 🙃

Including a bit more context in the title of your topic will give others a better idea of whether they want to read it or skip it.

Dtox Day Spa Massage & Facials in Los Angeles https://www.dtoxdayspa.com/

A responder (above) already invited ppl to DM him for massage details.

Treyf is treyf — smelled by the chosen ones from a mile away and avoided like a plague

My error — sorry!

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Did you then ask him about the prominent boner pic in his private gallery? 🍆

You might want to move your question to Spas & Masseurs. ✅

Does anyone remember the nightly gatherings under the eucalyptus trees near the west entrance to Balboa Park (at (Laurel)? Such "innocent" times!

It's a "hands-free finish" because you'll finish without being allowed to touch him, and he won't touch you. 🤓

Wait... You're assuming I'm a liberal? You stereotypers sure do have LOTS of those stereotypes.🤣 What's next? Saying that all clowns are empty-headed and borderline psychotic?

I'm sure you'll laugh it off when jokes about bisexual men "married" to women are made about a massage provider who claims to be bisexual and "married" to a woman The joke might be about such guys having low self-esteem and small dicks. You know — the common stereotype about such men. None of my bisexual friends would take offense at that at all. They'd laugh!

He says, "Prices VARY UPON CERTAIN Massages" Which one did you choose? The Low Skills or the No Skills? Which specific options did he give you?

Comments about specific religious practices of a provider based solely on his name are — once again — heading down the wrong track. It's not a cute joke for everyone in this forum. It might, however, be cute in your own circle. MODS: Can we please put an end to irrelevant and stereotyped comments about a provider's perceived behavior and attributes based only on religion?

What makes you think he observes "kosher" requirements and practices? How is he more "kosher" than any other provider who is circumcised?