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He’s (my) totally legit super great go to for stellar deep and real massive. Ignores (my) stiffies with great deft but has been documented as being human and succumbing to young tight cuties.

 

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YMMV applies here. My experience was more than a therapeutic experience. I haven’t been able to coordinate a second massage but worth it.

 

I agree. Expect a thorough therapeutic session that is really satisfying. But whatever happens afterwards is between two consenting adults. And for our sessions, we always end up consenting too much ?

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$150 is a lot of money to me. If you don't respect the art of sensual touch and value its healing power, then I don't want you touching me.

 

I am totally not interested in supporting a massage therapist who markets himself to the gay community on the HE websites and then picks and chooses the customers he wishes to get sensual or naked with. Either you care about the physical and emotional needs of gay men, or you don't. Discrimination should not be acceptable.

 

I fully understand that certain customers expect too much. They are too demanding and unrealistic. They take their porn fantasies into the massage room. Some demand an escort experience at massage prices, and care little about the actual massage. There is a proper way to deal with these customers. Allowing a business to become a "he's hot/he's not" litmus test is a good reason for the business to fail.

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$150 is a lot of money to me. If you don't respect the art of sensual touch and value its healing power, then I don't want you touching me.

 

I am totally not interested in supporting a massage therapist who markets himself to the gay community on the HE websites and then picks and chooses the customers he wishes to get sensual or naked with. Either you care about the physical and emotional needs of gay men, or you don't. Discrimination should not be acceptable.

 

I fully understand that certain customers expect too much. They are too demanding and unrealistic. They take their porn fantasies into the massage room. Some demand an escort experience at massage prices, and care little about the actual massage. There is a proper way to deal with these customers. Allowing a business to become a "he's hot/he's not" litmus test is a good reason for the business to fail.

 

 

Disagree. If sensuality isn’t explicitly stated, that not being offered should not be an issue. He has the right to charge what he wants and if you find it too expensive for a strictly therapeutic massage, you have the right to not schedule. Expectation based on costs that aren’t met when not explicitly agreed upon is your issue to deal with and not a reflection on improper handling of customers.

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If sensuality isn’t explicitly stated

How about explicitly saying "I remain fully clothed during the massage. Please do not expect a sexual component." These ads are specifically placed on a site catering to gay and bisexual men, a site that is mostly known for happy ending massages. If a massage therapist chooses to play the gotcha game in advertising on a site like this, then the consequence is on them.

 

if you find it too expensive for a strictly therapeutic massage

Too expensive is relative. The number is less important to me than the value of the experience.

 

I happen to believe that a sensual touch is therapeutic. Word play is popular in advertising.

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Disagree. If sensuality isn’t explicitly stated, that not being offered should not be an issue. He has the right to charge what he wants and if you find it too expensive for a strictly therapeutic massage, you have the right to not schedule. Expectation based on costs that aren’t met when not explicitly agreed upon is your issue to deal with and not a reflection on improper handling of customers.

 

I feel differently. The listed modalities (therapeutic, sensual, erotic) are only one way that a masseur communicates what to expect. A level of pricing ($150/hour, for example) also indicates that a client can expect a sensual or erotic experience, as does the inclusion of shirtless or nude photos. I wish this were a more straightforward business sometimes, but the communication strategies are understandably complicated.

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A level of pricing ($150/hour, for example) also indicates that a client can expect a sensual or erotic experience

That's an interesting statement.

 

At my gym, if I purchase a massage package, the 1 hour session will cost $85. The table with adjustable headrest will feel luxurious, but my naked body will be fully covered and the massage therapist fully dressed. He will be very careful where he places his hands, fingers, and elbows. He'll work my chest and encounter my erect nipples, but he'll mostly ignore them. He may touch my armpit hairs but he won't linger there for more than two seconds. He will not touch the area where my leg meets my groin, one of my favorite spots. He will not touch the area directly under my balls, another favorite. And when he works on my glutes, he will not go anywhere near the crack of my ass. I love the feeling of my ass cheeks being spread open, same as I love the feeling of an elbow gliding up and down the crack of my ass. What gay man doesn't enjoy these special aspects of a massage? What gay male massage therapist wouldn't love being on the receiving end of this type of massage?

 

To be fair, when I book with a massage guy who advertises on a HE massage site, I don't expect anything, not even a happy ending. Sometimes the massage is so intense, my cock goes more limp than an overcooked noodle. But my flaccid cock and droopy balls still enjoy being touched.

 

I do book each appointment with hope. My hope is the guy is trained and knows what he's doing. My hope is he takes the work seriously and that he enjoys being naked with me. My hope is he has a sincere desire to make me feel healed and satisfied when all is said and done. My hope is, as a gay male customer, he won't be shy about working the areas that stimulate me the most. If I happen to get a hardon, my hope is he'll want to touch it and massage it for a bit, especially while he massages my balls or tweaks my erect nipples. I don't ever need to ejaculate. But I sure love when the therapist uses his talented touch to touch me everywhere. If he charges $150 for this gay man's massage style, then I figure out a way to afford it in my budget. It's a far better value and experience than I can get at my gym.

 

If my cock happens to get hard and the guy is turned on by my erection, and he wishes to make me cum, then I think of it as a lucky experience. It takes a bit of time and effort to make me cum. If the therapist is eager and committed to the effort, I add money to his fee.

the communication strategies are understandably complicated.

You can't always spell out intimate details in an ad, and a true professional needs to be careful about the words he chooses to describe his service. However, there is plenty of evidence that hustlers exist in the HE massage business. If a therapist plays the he's hot/he's not game, that's one way I would define hustle.

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