S.Draker Notation in Reviews

[Rick Munroe]

Cancellations are, unfortunately, a part of this business. I can't imagine asking anyone to pay, though. If they offer, I do accept, especially if I had turned down other work, but I would never think to ask. And if I did ask and they refused, how would I collect? Show up with my bodyguard and his baseball bat? No, I wouldn't want to make Derek do that...besides, he's more of a pitcher than a batter. However, that's just me. We all have a right to set our own rules and policies.

[JT Brooklyn]

IMHO..S.Draker seems to be the only "International Escort" with this "Client Cancelling Problem"....

All the other International Guys Travel to the SAME cities he does! They seem to be handling their Biz just Great!

Bottom Line "Hire" one of them. His Attitude shows he really doesn't Care one way or the other, US $$ is his only concern.

I guess it still converts reasonably well BACK HOME? Otherwise this Note to All would not have been posted.

I doubt the "Loyal Fans" are the only Clients paying for the "4 Star Hotels" he has accustomed himself to!

This New Image & Attitude just might have him "Workin It" out of a Days Inn in Topeka! :+

[+ newatthis]

There's some context for this thread (and its subject) to be had (fairly deep) in

 

[http://babydb.male4malescorts.com/m4mdc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=7&topic_id=50137&mesg_id=50137].

[Tommygunzz]

RE: Don't shoot me, Tommy ;-)

 

I didn't mean to imply that Steven posts his travel plans more than one time per city visited. That would be untrue.

 

What I meant to point out that it seems Steven keeps alive the thread announcing his travel by posting his own replies to his original announcement.

 

All 5 postings on his trip to Chicago were posted by Steven. He was the sole contributor. For Atlanta and Houston, 2 of the 3 postings for each city were from Steven.

 

Perhaps the travel section should be a "post only" section. Replies and inquiries could be handled via private email.

 

If there was a way to withdraw my review of Steven from this site, I would. As for Steven's advice to me to get over it, believe me, I'm over it and him, too.

[Guest 8mile]

So we get it JT, you don't like Steven's policy, so don't hire him. As you say "Life Happens..That's It! Get Over It!" There was absolutely no point in starting this thread.

 

JohnnyXXX posted he wont allow his clients to fist him while high on Monday mornings. He will only allow them to fist him on Thursday nights between the hours of 5:35 till 11:13. Now how do we all feel about that?

 

If the escort post their restrictions and you don't agree with them. HIRE SOMEONE ELSE. Why bitch? Life Happens..That's It! Get Over It!

 

As Usual

Zachary

[JT Brooklyn]

RE: Don't shoot me, Tommy ;-)

 

Tommy. Very Perceptive..You did catch on to, how to keep "A" Name on Top!

Especially since it seems like only 1 Guy lately is doing it!

You are right about keeping it at just Name- City- Dates..

I always thought Hoo kept the "Newest Dates" on Top of the Listings Only?

Once a Guy "Advertised", it never Moved back up again.

 

"Advertising" is what "Part" of this site is about.

BUT Some of these guys, don't know what "Overkill" Means! LOL

:+

[JT Brooklyn]

I'm sure it has "NO Point" to his "Fan Club"!

BUT apparently it does to Many Guys who have No Intention of Giving Hard Earned Bucks Away..

To some Guy, for Zip-Zero-Zilch in return!

 

He's been around a LONG TIME NOW..Maybe The ALTITUDE has finally gotten to him?

 

He made a Point of stating HIS Intentions of getting Something for Nothing! So He and all the Fans can now Deal with it...

 

Personally.. his Euro Attitude, which I have seen Personally, does Nothing for me or I would have bothered to write a Review. "A long time ago".

[Guest 8mile]

SO DON'T HIRE HIM YOU!!! shessh

 

Everyone can read his policy, you're not the only one. He will inform his clients. I have never met the guy and personally my opinions be they good or bad about his policy will be just that PERSONAL and stay to myself.

 

Everyone can read JT and you're post are just getting redundant. You say the same two things over and over again. Which I wouldn't disagree with if there was a point behind them. However there usually isn't.

 

Live by your own words "Life Happens..That's It! Get Over It!"

 

As Usual

Zachary

[Steven_Draker]

LOL You posted 9 times in this thread ...

 

... time for you to GET A LIFE ! :+

[JT Brooklyn]

I guess having his Fans, Move the Conversation as far as possible from his "Pay Me Anyway" Statement, without saying whether this is just an "M4M Policy"... Or If he will be saying this to ALL Who Read his Ads,and Contact Him, we will never find out ?

 

BUT I seriously doubt, we will be getting this statement from anyone else!

 

Except maybe from the infamous Cole Ramsey! LOL :+

 

I will now go and "Get a Life"! LOL :+

[uwsman2]

RE: Don't shoot me, Tommy ;-)

 

Steven sometimes posts his travel dates far in advance. It's actually useful for him to post a response to his own advance posting in order to move his post up as the date draws near. It's a helpful reminder, and brings the post to the attention of those who may not have consulted the Escort Travels section in a while. And as somebody who likes to book a traveling escort occasionally, I appreciate his updating by posting that he still has open times while he is visiting a location, since otherwise one might assume that he was totally booked up in advance and not bother contacting him. I recall that during his recent NY visit he posted the info that some times had opened up due to cancellations from clients. I think that was useful information if it advised potential clients that it was possible to meet with him.

The Escort Travels area is an advertising vehicle for escorts who will be in locations other than the home locations indicated for them on their reviews, so it seems reasonable for them to use it liberally to inform those of us who might be interested. Anybody who is not interested in hiring a particular escort has no need to open the posting.

[Guest alanm]

RE: Don't shoot me, Tommy ;-)

 

Philadelphia is not the most popular place for visiting escorts, despite the liberty bell and Stallone jogging everywhere filming another Rocky movie.

 

Top guys (Tony Cummings et. al.) put an ad in the local gay newspaper, The Philadelphia Gay News, when they come to the city. I visit the traveling escort site almost every day, it does seem that Stephen

bumps more than just about any one else. Fine with me, but I can see that other escorts might not like it. I just enjoy looking at his wide variety of pictures.

[Yeswell]

RE: Don't shoot me, Tommy ;-)

 

I like looking at Steven's pictures too and I wish he'd come to my city. I enjoyed thinking of the liberty bell and Stallone sightings as inducements. I've been to Philadelphia twice now and never seen him or the bell and yet I still enjoyed myself. I don't really understand this fuss. Steven's note was crabby, but I understand how irritating cancellations must be. If the escort and the customer are in the same city then the one who cancels can make it up later, but for travelling escorts or customers the situation is obviously different. As for the advertising--it's his business. If other escorts don't like it then let them advertise more. Now I must go look at Steven's pictures again.

[SMILE]

I realize that I'm a new kid on the block (with regard to posting, at least), but I think this has gotten blown all out of proportion. Clearly Steven was upset with being "burned" a few occasions and thought he needed to take some action. It's his choice, and he's not alone. Many professionals -- doctors, dentists, lawyers, massage therapists, and yes, even escorts -- have adoped a cancellation policy. Time is what these professionals are selling and, once it is rendered idle by a cancellation, they generally can't get it back.

 

Relationships between service professionals, including escorts, should be, in part, based upon consideration and respect; if not, then it is not inappropriate for there to be consequences. Some will choose to take action; others will not.

 

While Steven might have articulated his policy better (and he has since clarified it some with regard to situations where he would not impose the penalty), it was written "in the moment" and I don't think that offensive, i.e., I think you have made it into something that it is not. I have met Steven on a couple of occasions and have found him to be respectful, considerate and truly a 'class act'. As others have said, I think it's time to 'move on'.

 

Best,

 

SMILE

 

 

P.S. In another post, you compared Steven with a well known escort based out of Washington, D.C ("TDM"). I have met them both. If you are into a real defined, muscular guy, then TDM probably has a leg up on Steven (although, I personally think Steven is great in this regard too -- good definition and very tight). However, in other areas, including respect, attitude, consideration and interaction, I think Steven has it all over TDM, but that's my personal opinion. Everyone makes his own decision on what/who they like, and since no two esorts (people) are alike, comparisons are difficult, at best, and thus generally not fair to the individuals involved.

[irishguybos]

What if the table is turned and Steven cancels on you. Will he make up for your time and agravation? I had Steven cancel on me the last time he was in Boston, not just recently the time before. There is a post about it if you do a search. I was on my way to meet him and he called me to cancel. It was within a half hour of our appoinment and he cancelled on me. I was going to try Steven again because of all the good reviews but I was out of town while he was in Boston.

[JT Brooklyn]

Thank You Very Much for your First Time Post.:+

[Guest alanm]

I am not sure how TDM got involved in this thread; his name had not been mentioned before (it was his friend Tony Cummings). I have never hired TDM. He's not my type and his rates are too high for my income. If you are going to attack someone for their escorts services, how about giving some specifics or write a review that Talvin could respond to. This is a site to discuss escorts, but it is unfair to bash someone with absolutely no details.

 

Some, not many, doctors, lawyers and escorts over book clients. I have sat in doctor's offices for hours waiting for my 1:00 'appointment.' On some occasions, escorts also over book, even if it's a case of being unaware of the driving distance from point A to point B. As much as I understand, Stephen's anger he needs to calm down. Stuff happens. It's part of being an escort, which is not an easy job. Does he really want to set a policy that he can not enforce.

 

Hey Stephen the euro v. dollar exchange rate is already killing us!

[Steven_Draker]

>Stephen's anger he needs to calm down.

 

I am very calm. Where did you see or perceive any anger ?

 

I will respond to this thread when I have time and the notataion will be edited.

 

Thank you.

 

Steven Draker ~

[SMILE]

Your point as to 'how did TDM get involved in this thread' is a valid one. I took a shortcut, as JT had made a comment in another thread in which he compared Steven and TDM. It would have been more appropriate for me to answer it there, but because it involved JT and Steven, I took the shortcut and I made the comment here -- perhaps lazy on my part.

 

However, I don't think I "attacked someone for their escort services", rather, I simply said that I thought Steven, on an overall scale, rated higher than TDM -- the opposite of JT's opinion. Additionally, I went on to say that it was my personal opinion and that "Everyone has to make his own decision as to what/who they like, and since no two escorts (people) are alike, comparisons are difficult, at best, and thus generally not fair to the individuals involved." Any questions I had with TDM I discussed with him; I did not feel I needed to discuss it in a review.

 

With regard to professional services scheduling -- overbooking is not the answer and I would be very upset with an escort who did that to me. While I realize 'stuff happens', I think appropriate consideration and respect for the other person would go a long way to solving such problems.

 

Finally, I saw Steven around the time this happened, and he seemed calm, upbeat and clearly "had his A game on!"

 

SMILE

[Steven_Draker]

First, thank you 'uwsman2' and 'smile' for taking the time to explain.

 

Unlike what has been said above, I do offer a discounted rate if I cancel last-minute, because it only seems fair. This happened 3 times in the past (bacause I wasn't feeling well) and the most recent case is when I cancelled last minute on a client who was coming from Brooklyn to see me at my hotel in Manhattan in April 2005. I apologized about the last-minute cancellation, explained the reason and offered to make it up to him next time when I'm in NYC. And I did. On my current trip I contacted him and offered to see him at a discounted rate. He came to my hotel and we had a great time. I think that he follows this board, but only reads it and doesn't post. If he wishes he's welcome to contribute.

 

Irishguybos,

I understand how you feel about me canceling on you in Boston this past January. As I said previously, I'll be more than happy to make it up for you. If you're interested please get in touch with me. My email address is [email protected]

 

And finally, the notation regarding my cancellation policy will be edited shortly.

 

Have a great weekend, everyone.

 

Regards,

Steven Draker ~

http://www.hotsexystud.com/uk

[RockHard]

RE: Dear Stephen

 

Please, the superstar who cuts my hair (I guess I should say the "salon" but he directs his cancellation policy) will charge full price for any cancellation not received within 48 hours of the appointment. A major credit card number is required to hold the appointment.

 

If a magazine, television show, movie studio, or Kate Moss call for his services, I'm left at the ice-cold reception desk, sometimes, with no notice. Why do I put up with this crap? I love him, he's talented, and I think he's worth the aggravation.

 

My favorite massage therapist in NYC, who services sports' stars and professional dancers, has a similar "diva" policy.

 

Steven, if you consider yourself a "star" talent, set your policy and demand the respect of a professional. There's always a down side but you can figure out how to deal with that.

[Steven_Draker]

It sucks to be "popular"

 

RockHard,

Thanks for your comments, but I'm far from being a "star". I'm just a normal down-to-earth guy.

I think the people who have met me can vouch that.

 

SD ~

[+ ArVaGuy]

RE: It sucks to be "popular"

 

>RockHard,

>Thanks for your comments, but I'm far from being a "star". I'm

>just a normal down-to-earth guy.

>I think the people who have met me can vouch that.

>

>SD ~

 

Well I can certainly vouch for that. And in the interest of full disclosure here it was my review that was posted earlier this week. I had a great time, as stated in the reivew, and found Steven to be a very nice and sweet guy.

 

I noted the cancellation policy when I booked Steven and, yes, I did roll my eyes a bit but I am always very serious about making my plans and research the guys a hire as thouroughly as possible. We had a great time and I am looking forward to another if our schedules permit.

 

Steven, I do think you posted that notice in a fit of pique but I can understand the frustration you must have been experiencing at the time.

[Guest alanm]

RE: It sucks to be "popular"

 

Steven-

 

You have done an excellent job of explaining your policy. I may disagee, but am very impressed by the way you have responded to the comments and questions.

 

 

SMILE-

 

I's sorry that I attacked you so strongly, perhaps it was because you including the remarks about Talvin in a P.S. Thanks for making things clear and welcome to the message center.

 

RockHard-

 

With all due respect, I find it difficult to believe that you can not find excellent people in all the fields you mention who do not charge a cancellation fee.

[RockHard]

RE: "Popular" is a great business goal.

 

"With all due respect, I find it difficult to believe that you can not find excellent people in all the fields you mention who do not charge a cancellation fee."

 

With reservation on returning respect, I see no point in telling tales. Both individuals I mentioned have been a part of my life for over 15 years. Things change as popular individuals grow and "doing business" requires more disciplined decisions.

 

Of course, I could "find excellent people" anywhere. The question remains, "Do I want to begin a search for this level of quality after all these years of trust and satisfaction?"

 

What I didn't mention in my first post is that both service providers would happily "make up" for any inconvenience they caused me because they both know the value of a good customer. There's no masochism here. I do not tolerate customer abuse from any business or individual.

 

Very talented (and caring) service providers, especially those in demand, eventually have to cross this difficult road: How do they protect their available time slots from falling on empty? I see this business decision in the same way I see booking a popular boutique hotel in Europe. Most require a deposit and all have "full-payment" cancellation deadlines. They can't survive in business if their limited rooms go empty at the last minute. It's really quite simple.