Oral fixation

[Gadfly22]

The topic has come up as an aside in several threads but sporadically and most often in passing so I'll ask: Can the good denizens of this forum name the massage providers (and link profiles if its not too much trouble) that they have had personal experience with who finish you off orally (not necessarily to completion) but as part of the build up to the H/E. I have had it happen to me only once (Eriss Rubio) and he is no longer advertising from what I can tell - and also more known for escorting - but I did get a massage from him in 2013. I have no problem thoroughly questioning a potential hire before I take the plunge, but asking if they do.........that seems very presumptuous to me so I think this could be a helpful topic for many of the more timid among us (and less wealthy who can't afford to take shots in the dark hoping to strike gold). Thanks.

 

P.S. Sorry if I'm nitpicking (but I am a gadfly after all!!) but I'm looking for guys who do this as part of their routine, the first time you saw them, not because you and he have had many encounters and built up trust or that you and he had "good chemistry" or stuff like that. Thanks so much for understanding.

[niceandthick]

The Spa

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[+ EVdude]

This is where repeat appointments pay off. I don't recall ever getting oral during a first appointment. But I do have several go-tos that are pretty dependable for an oral ending now that we know each other.

[Jim_n_NYC]

This is where repeat appointments pay off. I don't recall ever getting oral during a first appointment. But I do have several go-tos that are pretty dependable for an oral ending now that we know each other.

Hm, care to pm me with the guys in NYC?

[jjkrkwood]

My question has always been, if you are seeking something Sexual, why not just hire an ESCORT ?

[NYMassageAddict]

My question has always been, if you are seeking something Sexual, why not just hire an ESCORT ?

Question not posed for me, but I’ll give my spin on it.

 

I have never (to my knowledge) been with an escort. An escort doesn’t sound appealing to me because I don’t know how much detail I need to provide in advance. Then, if I provide a lot, it won’t seem like it’s happening organically. I tend to separate most sexual activity from massage. Call me crazy.

 

Then with an escort, they are likely to moan and be “into it” but I’d be wondering if it’s an act or real.

 

Where in a massage, I rationalize in my head that I’m paying for a massage that happens to include a HE.

 

With a masseur, I have no pressure to worry if he’s into it or enjoying it.

 

Maybe it doesn’t make sense to many on here, but that’s how my head works.

[jjkrkwood]

Question not posed for me, but I’ll give my spin on it.

 

I have never (to my knowledge) been with an escort. An escort doesn’t sound appealing to me because I don’t know how much detail I need to provide in advance. Then, if I provide a lot, it won’t seem like it’s happening organically. I tend to separate most sexual activity from massage. Call me crazy.

 

Then with an escort, they are likely to moan and be “into it” but I’d be wondering if it’s an act or real.

 

Where in a massage, I rationalize in my head that I’m paying for a massage that happens to include a HE.

 

With a masseur, I have no pressure to worry if he’s into it or enjoying it.

 

Maybe it doesn’t make sense to many on here, but that’s how my head works.

 

Both escorts and masseurs have to often provide service to people that are unattractive or not appealing to them. There is an actting component to it, BUT its their job and their INCOME. If a masseur if willing to provide the sexual component, he's most likely an Escort ? because the last time I checked, a blowjob wasnt a typical part of a professional massage....

[Jim_n_NYC]

What's with all the judgemental posts in these forums all of a sudden?

[jjkrkwood]

What's with all the judgemental posts in these forums all of a sudden?

 

Every discussion has an element of judgement in it, usually its called an "opinion"....

[Gadfly22]

My question has always been, if you are seeking something Sexual, why not just hire an ESCORT ?

 

My take is a bit simpler than MasageAddict. When it comes to sensual pleasure sometimes I want to be active and sometimes I want to lie back and be serviced. When the former I hire an escort; when the latter I go for erotic massage. And if there are guys out there who are willing to go the "extra mile" I'd like to know about them and maybe give them a try. Reasonable?

[Gadfly22]

The Spa

Discussion about Masseurs. Please be careful so as not to compromise their licenses.

 

Understood and thanks. I thought this topic might be pushing the boundaries but as I said before I have seen it come up in other threads. If anyone is still reading this thread and has any info on the subject please PM me. I'll gladly share anything I learn with any interested parties (privately of course).

[+ ODIN51]

Does anybody know what happened to Eriss Rubio? Such a handsome young man. He just disappeared from the escort business. I hope he is well.

[nylund]

It definitely falls into the 'mileage may vary' category. Massage, unlike escorting, doesn't include oral services. I always see it as an extra extra (HE is extra) and it really depends on the chemistry between the two of you. I can't imagine a masseur providing BJ to every single client he has. So even if I recommend a masseur who does that to me, there's no guarantee he will do the same to you.

[Gadfly22]

It definitely falls into the 'mileage may vary' category. Massage, unlike escorting, doesn't include oral services. I always see it as an extra extra (HE is extra) and it really depends on the chemistry between the two of you. I can't imagine a masseur providing BJ to every single client he has. So even if I recommend a masseur who does that to me, there's no guarantee he will do the same to you.

 

You tend to speak in absolutes, but I will address your points individually

 

Massage, unlike escorting, doesn't include oral services.

 

Unfortunately escorting does not always include oral services, which I was chagrined to discover as a newbie to hiring escorts several years back. "Mileage may vary" as you say.

 

I always see it as an extra extra (HE is extra)

 

For an erotic massage H/E is not an extra in my opinion but a requirement and not to do so or to ask for more $$ is dishonest, false advertising and insert whatever other pejorative terms you like.

 

I can't imagine a masseur providing BJ to every single client he has.

 

OK maybe not every customer, but if a guy is polite, punctual, clean, pays what you ask and isn't batshit crazy why not? Especially if giving oral is something the provider likes to do as part of his regular sexual practice? Seems like a good way to distinguish oneself in a very competitive market.

 

I started this thread because guys who advertise as masseurs (even erotic masseurs) rarely discuss giving or receiving oral during the massage session in their public profiles (and understandably so) and I was just hoping some of the more experienced gentlemen on this blog or even the massage guys themselves would provide some information that would be otherwise difficult to obtain without long back and forth discussions between masseur and client or having to hire many times to find even a single guy who does this.