The organ (out takes)

[whipped guy]

And imagine into how many different forums would the Powers have felt it necessary to slice such a multifaceted work as The Importance of Being Earnest. Or Moby-Dick. Or The Faerie Queen. Or etc etc etc.

 

The splitting is odd but, as WG says, does give added visibility, never a bad thing.

The original thread was a study in tragicomedy... and sophisticated in its own way...

 

"Tragicomedy is a literary genre that blends aspects of both tragic and comic forms. Most often seen in dramatic literature, the term can variously describe either a tragic play which contains enough comic elements to lighten the overall mood or a serious play with a happy ending."

 

The term was first used by the Roman Plautus in the prologue of his play Amphitryon:

 

"I will make it a mixture: let it be a tragicomedy. I don't think it would be appropriate to make it consistently a comedy, when there are kings and gods in it. What do you think? Since a slave also has a part in the play, I'll make it a tragicomedy..."

The function of tragicomedy:

"The main purpose of tragicomedy is to describe dual nature of reality where both modes can coexist, perhaps simultaneously. Therefore, the interweaving of both aspects gives both a comic and tragic view of life. Tragicomedy is mainly used in dramas and theater. Since tragic plays focus exclusively on protagonists, while comic plays are devoid of focus and concern, therefore such plays which fell between these two categories were developed. These types of plays present both modes of life through absurdity and seriousness."

Examples:

Easy! Think of a few plays by the Bard of Avon... Well we were not exactly in that category with that thread... However, on second thought the esteemed Mr. Smith came quite close!

 

[AdamSmith]

The original thread was a study in tragicomedy... and sophisticated in its own way...

 

"Tragicomedy is a literary genre that blends aspects of both tragic and comic forms. Most often seen in dramatic literature, the term can variously describe either a tragic play which contains enough comic elements to lighten the overall mood or a serious play with a happy ending."

 

The term was first used by the Roman Plautus in the prologue of his play Amphitryon:

 

"I will make it a mixture: let it be a tragicomedy. I don't think it would be appropriate to make it consistently a comedy, when there are kings and gods in it. What do you think? Since a slave also has a part in the play, I'll make it a tragicomedy..."

The function of tragicomedy:

"The main purpose of tragicomedy is to describe dual nature of reality where both modes can coexist, perhaps simultaneously. Therefore, the interweaving of both aspects gives both a comic and tragic view of life. Tragicomedy is mainly used in dramas and theater. Since tragic plays focus exclusively on protagonists, while comic plays are devoid of focus and concern, therefore such plays which fell between these two categories were developed. These types of plays present both modes of life through absurdity and seriousness."

Examples:

 

Easy! Think of a few plays by the Bard of Avon... Well we were not exactly in that category with that thread... However, on second thought the esteemed Mr. Smith came quite close!

The brilliant Canadian literary critic Northrop Frye in his quite extraordinary and all-seeing book Anatomy of Criticism taxonomized literary works into four genres: comedy, tragedy, romance, irony. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomy_of_Criticism

 

But I think what we were enacting in our (heretofore unitary) thread was a fifth, much weirder, genre: allegory.

 

Explored in dazzling range by Angus Fletcher, whom my idol Bloom gladly terms 'the best critic in North America'.

 

Allegory: The Theory of a Symbolic Mode http://press.princeton.edu/titles/9698.html

 

And also by a marvelous researcher and teacher I had the privilege to study under at Jale, one Maureen Quilligan (who later, coincidentally, went on to chair the English dept. at Duke for a time): https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Language_of_Allegory.html?id=tfl1c55_KgcC

 

That this revealing, discoverative, but very odd and unsettling mode of investigative thought would run afoul of local rules is, on reflection, not startling.

[AdamSmith]

One of the slipperiest works in Western literature is The Faerie Queen, wherein Spenser may at any moment drop out of whichever of Frye's four 'classical' genres the poem is working in, and suddenly 'drop' into allegory, where everything is a trope for something else, and that in turn for something else again, in an endless recursive series. Very unsettling and creepy and enlivening in the reading!

 

Possibly the most sustained allegorical work in modern Western literature is Melville's short novel The Confidence Man, where several competing, contradictory authorial voices 'compete' for the reader's allegiance and 'belief.' Not ever being able to know which narrative voice in a novel is giving you the 'truth' creates an anxious and enlighteningly unsettling aesthetic experience indeed.

[whipped guy]

And also by a marvelous researcher and teacher I had the privilege to study under at Jale, one Maureen Quilligan (who later, coincidentally, went on to chair the English dept. at Duke for a time): https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Language_of_Allegory.html?id=tfl1c55_KgcC

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Incidentally, I don't want any of the "Guys" out there to be confused, but "Jale" does not reference jail or even gaol, but rather Yale!

 

Still, at the rate we are going this is going to be moved bact to the Arts Forum! How 'bout it Guys!

[AdamSmith]

Still, at the rate we are going this is going to be moved bact to the Arts Forum! How 'bout it Guys!

LMAO!

 

'Criss-cross'!

 

 

http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/strangershed.jpg?resize=1100x740

 

 

 

 

[AdamSmith]

Just so innocent people don't get blamed...

 

"Our American Cousin," was the comic play that Lincoln saw the night he was killed. One of the first American "Comedy & Tragedy" out takes.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-j05cNYxsMJY/Te-_a0USbZI/AAAAAAAAFsU/L0fYAObTVWU/s1600/SARAH+PALIN+GEORGE+WASHINGTON.jpg

LMMFAO! I finally got it!

 

Where was my mind, @Guy Fawkes?! I am getting old & slowing down!

 

Just beyond pitch-perfect!

 

If anybody dares one syllable about sucking up to the site owner...they know their AS has his Ways & Means.

 

Those FBI & SS contacts among them.

 

Watch your tax audits.

[AdamSmith]

Oscar Wild was thereafter always considered a Party Pooper! You don't have go to Venice, Las Vegas is much closer.

Also Venice Beach!

[TruHart1]

Incidentally, I don't want any of the "Guys" out there to be confused, but "Jale" does not reference jail or even gaol, but rather Yale!

 

Still, at the rate we are going this is going to be moved bact to the Arts Forum! How 'bout it Guys!

LMMFAO! I finally got it!

 

Where was my mind..?! I am getting old & slowing down!

 

Just beyond pitch-perfect!

 

If anybody dares one syllable about sucking up to the site owner...they know their AS has his Ways & Means.

 

Those FBI & SS contacts among them.

 

Watch your tax audits.

Well, I see the original thread in 'Comedy & Tragedy' has now been locked, @AdamSmith. So @whipped guy there can be no hope of a flip-flop back to the Arts forum for this thread now!!! :(

 

...and somewhat apropos:

 

TruHart1

[AdamSmith]

Well, I see the original thread in 'Comedy & Tragedy' has now been locked, @AdamSmith.

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[AdamSmith]

Occurs this was the Große Fuge of its time & place.