Fine line between opera and porn

[AdamSmith]

From my personal point of view a more muscled and older Tadzio would make more sense because that's what would turn me on personally. However, my name is not Aschenbach and I'm not into jail bait.

I think the point of Tadzio being 14, rather than say 18 or even 16, is that his age makes him not just a tough chase but instead an absolutely unrealistic object of Aschenbach's affections. Which is a complete contravention of Aschenbach's philosophy of aesthetics and by extension of life in general. The lesson that the heart knows no reason, etc.

[Phil_musc]

I feel that this thread has kinda wandered along into different paths - just think: we've discussed musical blow jobs, Gustav Mahler becoming aroused while conducting which led to a brief mentioning of his lovely wife Alma (who, let's face it, must have been quite a babe - the lover mentioned above was the architect Walther Gropius (not too shabby a guy to show off to your friends around the pool), but she also married the novelist Franz Werfel (Song of Bernadette), then we also discussed Death in Venice (a novella that I found strangely off-putting) as well as Britten's opera version (Britten had this thing for YOUNG boys that we Ceremony of Carols fans don't like to dwell on) - and we're only on the third page of this thread. So many other threads seem to wallow around in singular ideas, but this one is actually quite laudatory in its breadth of subjects covered. Thanks to all.

[+ bigjoey]

Alma Mahler has gotten the Hollywood treatment:

 

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0212827/

"Bride of the Wind"

[bostonman]

The final orchestral moments of the first Act of Wagner's Die Walküre supposedly depict the orgasm that brings the hero Siegfried into this world... That's the closest I can come and cum to think of it the old MET production did have Siegmund right on top of Sieglinde in a missionary position with that orgasmic motive cuming as the curtain falls.

 

The opening orchestral music in Strauss's Der Rosenkavalier describes the sex between the young Octavian and his older lover, the Marschallin. There's a culmination with a french horn "fanfare" that clearly signals orgasm.

 

In a similar but much more overt comic way, Shostakovich uses the sliding of a trombone to illustrate a moment of impulsive sex in Lady Macbeth Of Mtsensk - including not only the buildup to the big moment, but the "deflating" afterward. Great stuff.

 

Sondheim opens his musical Passion with a military drum cadence that leads to a sudden loud dissonant chord which slowly subsides - the scene opens with the soldier Giorgio in bed with his lover Clara, just after sex. The script clarifies that the opening music depicts her orgasm.

[WolfRamNHard]

I don't have pictures of our performance, of course, but here are some photos of other performances of Powder Her Face.

http://static.deia.com/images/2016/05/05/opera-arriaga-powder-h12200285_11.jpg

 

http://www.elcorreo.com/multimedia/201605/06/media/powder-her-face/powder-her-face(53).jpg

 

The set is reminiscent of a Peter Greenaway film.

 

ETA: More specifically, these pics reminded me of Greenaway's "Goltzius and the Pelican Company". See gifs below from that film -

 

http://66.media.tumblr.com/eb33bde2974e94ee2a5679727648026a/tumblr_n7sntxJtA31tt2402o4_250.gif

http://67.media.tumblr.com/2dbef37f000bfbed948b3c6387b853d8/tumblr_n7sntxJtA31tt2402o3_250.gif

http://67.media.tumblr.com/c8680f64fcfd258f2a4b685058ce331e/tumblr_n7sntxJtA31tt2402o2_500.gif

http://66.media.tumblr.com/e493f85ddfdde6c81af7a55cea3f4af0/tumblr_n7sntxJtA31tt2402o1_500.gif

[TruHart1]

I feel that this thread has kinda wandered along into different paths - just think: we've discussed musical blow jobs, Gustav Mahler becoming aroused while conducting which led to a brief mentioning of his lovely wife Alma (who, let's face it, must have been quite a babe - the lover mentioned above was the architect Walther Gropius (not too shabby a guy to show off to your friends around the pool), but she also married the novelist Franz Werfel (Song of Bernadette), then we also discussed Death in Venice (a novella that I found strangely off-putting) as well as Britten's opera version (Britten had this thing for YOUNG boys that we Ceremony of Carols fans don't like to dwell on) - and we're only on the third page of this thread. So many other threads seem to wallow around in singular ideas, but this one is actually quite laudatory in its breadth of subjects covered. Thanks to all.

Well, let's face it, Phil, opera and porn can both be extremely stimulating!!!

 

TruHart1

[AdamSmith]

[whipped guy]

Danke Herr Smith! Priceless!

[AdamSmith]

The set is reminiscent of a Peter Greenaway film.

Greenaway is God. I want 'The Draughtsman's Contract' projected on endless loop on the inside lid of my coffin.

[WolfRamNHard]

Greenaway is God. I want 'The Draughtsman's Contract' projected on endless loop on the inside lid of my coffin.

 

Glad to meet a fellow Greenaway enthusiast!

 

Peter Greenaway, Derek Jarman and Sergei Paradjanov are the holy trinity of unabashed visual hedonism in cinema as far as I am concerned.