Hagglers?

[Jock123]

Mr 1-2-3, please keep in mind that many people that hire, CANT AFFORD IT, but put priorities on their expenditures, and for some, SEX is first and foremost. Do you honestly think that sticking your dick in someone is worth $300 an hour. That's more than a lot of doctors who save lives make. Be realistic. I am not saying you shouldn't ask for whatever price you want. All I am saying is that escorts should be open to people who may negotiate the fee, and not label them "cheapos" and write them off for doing so..

 

 

Because You "Cant afford it"...Isnt my Problem. If a Rate is listed and Its out of Your Budget...Its probably best to move on. I have zero sympathy for people who Hire who cant afford it. I am Speaking from EXPERIENCE. I HAVE Given Discounts, I HAVE done people Favors. And its always those who are on a Budget whom are the most difficult to deal with In person. Again You would think They'd appreciate You already doing them a favor.

 

 

It takes two to haggle, so obviously, you were haggling as well. If you didn't want to negotiate your fee, why not tell him so after his first request and move on?

 

I didnt mind lowering my fee because In our Emails he went as far as saying he "Just helped pay for a friends funeral and needed a Disttraction"

 

Here I was being Sympathetic and turns out the guy was not only full of it...But felt Entitled because he was "Hot". How fucking dare You have me drive 4 Hours ONE WAY knowing You had no Intention of paying me.Hes lucky I kept it classy and professional. Some escorts would have lost their shit.

 

 

This business will quickly make You realize You have to take care of #1 First...Yourself. Which is why most Escorts ask for some type of upfront payment when Traveling. Lesson learned.

[jjkrkwood]

Because You "Cant afford it"...Isnt my Problem.

 

Here I was being Sympathetic and turns out the guy was not only full of it...But felt Entitled because he was "Hot". How fucking dare You have me drive 4 Hours ONE WAY knowing You had no Intention of paying me.Hes lucky I kept it classy and professional. Some escorts would have lost their shit.

 

 

This business will quickly make You realize You have to take care of #1 First..Yourself. Which is why most Escorts ask for some type of upfront payment when Traveling. Lesson learned.

 

It's no different than YOU feeling entitled because YOU are hot, which obviously you do !

 

Which is exactly what the client is doing by trying to negotiate a fee. Looking out for ones self works both ways...

[MikeyGMin]

This business will quickly make You realize You have to take care of #1 First...Yourself. Which is why most Escorts ask for some type of upfront payment when Traveling. Lesson learned.

 

Jock, you'll find your way to a happy medium. Don't let this business turn you into an unpleasant person, but learn from experience and run your business (your life) the way you want. Have your policies and best practices and stick to them. You'll avoid a lot of the drama that way and weed out the guys you are not compatible with.

[MiamiLooker]

Because You "Cant afford it"...Isnt my Problem. If a Rate is listed and Its out of Your Budget...Its probably best to move on. I have zero sympathy for people who Hire who cant afford it. I am Speaking from EXPERIENCE. I HAVE Given Discounts, I HAVE done people Favors. And its always those who are on a Budget whom are the most difficult to deal with In person. Again You would think They'd appreciate You already doing them a favor.

 

 

 

 

I didnt mind lowering my fee because In our Emails he went as far as saying he "Just helped pay for a friends funeral and needed a Disttraction"

 

Here I was being Sympathetic and turns out the guy was not only full of it...But felt Entitled because he was "Hot". How fucking dare You have me drive 4 Hours ONE WAY knowing You had no Intention of paying me.Hes lucky I kept it classy and professional. Some escorts would have lost their shit.

 

 

This business will quickly make You realize You have to take care of #1 First...Yourself. Which is why most Escorts ask for some type of upfront payment when Traveling. Lesson learned.

 

It sounds like you got scammed. But if his intention was to not pay you anyway, what difference did it make that you agreed to lower your fee?

[Bearofdistinction]

I've only gotten 2 so far but I was wondering if this was a common occurrence. We get through talking, practically setting an appointment and then they turn and say they don't have much money or some recent financial pitfall has hit.

 

Does anyone else run into this?

 

Technically wouldn't they be Fagglers?

[GeneKlein]

Wow I didn't expect quite a response when I posted this and now I'm kinda mad I didn't make that swap meat pun.

 

I can understand why this is such a divisive topic and I did get some great suggestions from you guys.

 

I'm not really complicated. My donation is a flat rate and I don't mind lowering it for an ongoing thing. These two guys were kind of shaky but I'll definitely let potential clients know I'm open to it.

[bigvalboy]

Because You "Cant afford it"...Isnt my Problem. If a Rate is listed and Its out of Your Budget...Its probably best to move on. I have zero sympathy for people who Hire who cant afford it. I am Speaking from EXPERIENCE. I HAVE Given Discounts, I HAVE done people Favors. And its always those who are on a Budget whom are the most difficult to deal with In person. Again You would think They'd appreciate You already doing them a favor.

 

 

 

 

I didnt mind lowering my fee because In our Emails he went as far as saying he "Just helped pay for a friends funeral and needed a Disttraction"

 

Here I was being Sympathetic and turns out the guy was not only full of it...But felt Entitled because he was "Hot". How fucking dare You have me drive 4 Hours ONE WAY knowing You had no Intention of paying me.Hes lucky I kept it classy and professional. Some escorts would have lost their shit.

 

 

This business will quickly make You realize You have to take care of #1 First...Yourself. Which is why most Escorts ask for some type of upfront payment when Traveling. Lesson learned.

 

Sorry you got scammed, and I wish you luck with your business in the future....But this post just made me change my mind on this subject. So just ignore that part about "Running with the Big Dogs" I posted, it's been deleted...

[mattr]

I haggle for many things. If someone gives me a price for something and I think it is high I will often ask if they can do better. You should have seen me haggle in Egypt (although it is expected there for almost everything). I don't haggle with a doctor, a dentist, lawyer, or an escort. These are personal services and I want the relationship to remain professional.

[Kevin Slater]

One Client after "Haggling" with my Fee over Emails...had me Drive 4 Hours(One way) to meet him. After Dinner/Drinks(It was suppose to be an Overnight) He had the balls to Basically tell me He was flat broke. I was Pissed. Then he Expected a Pass because he was In his own words "Hot".

 

I'm sorry that happened to you, but I hope you can chalk it up as an expensive lesson. I would never travel several hours to see a new client without a substantial deposit paid ahead of time.

 

Kevin Slater

[Kevin Slater]

So how does one get money paid upfront in a case like this? I know theirs PayPal but can't the client just get the money back when he sends the money to the escorts account?

 

How about an Amazon e-gift card?

 

Kevin Slater

[jimboivyo]

Mr 1-2-3, please keep in mind that many people that hire, CANT AFFORD IT

 

but many others can and do have the money to pay for whatever they want

 

and we don't haggle

[jimboivyo]

Because You "Cant afford it"...Isnt my Problem. If a Rate is listed and Its out of Your Budget...Its probably best to move on. I have zero sympathy for people who Hire who cant afford it. I am Speaking from EXPERIENCE. I HAVE Given Discounts, I HAVE done people Favors. And its always those who are on a Budget whom are the most difficult to deal with In person. Again You would think They'd appreciate You already doing them a favor.

 

 

 

 

I didnt mind lowering my fee because In our Emails he went as far as saying he "Just helped pay for a friends funeral and needed a Disttraction"

 

Here I was being Sympathetic and turns out the guy was not only full of it...But felt Entitled because he was "Hot". How fucking dare You have me drive 4 Hours ONE WAY knowing You had no Intention of paying me.Hes lucky I kept it classy and professional. Some escorts would have lost their shit.

 

 

This business will quickly make You realize You have to take care of #1 First...Yourself. Which is why most Escorts ask for some type of upfront payment when Traveling. Lesson learned.

 

 

rule number one on this forum: don't get sucked into word play with those who manipulate

 

just let it go

[+ Truereview]

Rule #2 - just bc someone is a loud mouth or aggressive, it doesn't make them right or the majority

Rule #3 - if you are posting more than 2 times in the same thread or writing pages of explanations, you've been triggered or you are wrong and you can't admit it

Rule #4 - some dick will always aim to find fault with whatever you post...that's how they get hard

Rule #5 - learn to shut up after rule #4

 

PS - I don't haggle with posted rates - not worth my time & unintended consequences. I do seek to understand when rates increase.

[jjkrkwood]

but many others can and do have the money to pay for whatever they want

 

and we don't haggle

 

 

 

That's fine Jimbo... This isn't an "all or nothing" contest. Lucky you, that money is no object. But other people have different experiences, and WHY should they be ostracized or ridiculed for negotiating. As with ANYTHING in life, each person should feel comfortable doing what works for them, and shouldn't be made to feel ashamed for doing so. Now don't get all crazy and ask me if a person should be able to go out and Kill someone. Of course not. We are speaking here within the confines of THIS topic.

Rule #2 - just bc someone is a loud mouth or aggressive, it doesn't make them right or the majority

Rule #3 - if you are posting more than 2 times in the same thread or writing pages of explanations, you've been triggered or you are wrong and you can't admit it

Rule #4 - some dick will always aim to find fault with whatever you post...that's how they get hard

Rule #5 - learn to shut up after rule #4

 

PS - I don't haggle with posted rates - not worth my time & unintended consequences. I do seek to understand when rates increase.

 

 

GOD, too many fucking rules... And if you haven't already noticed TR, I love to have the LAST word (and actually every other word in between)

[+ Truereview]

...And if you haven't already noticed TR, I love to have the LAST word (and actually every other word in between)

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[MiamiLooker]

I don't haggle with a doctor, a dentist, lawyer, or an escort.

You don't have medical or dental insurance? If you do, they've already done the "haggling" for you.

[mattr]

You don't have medical or dental insurance? If you do, they've already done the "haggling" for you.

 

I have a high deductible plan so I am responsible for most of the bills albeit at the negotiated rate until the deductible is met. There are people who negotiate the fee they are responsible for but that is not me. In addition some things are not covered and I don' negotiate those fees either.

[jjkrkwood]

I just don't understand the stigma that "negotiation" seems to have here ? Are you all simply afraid of how you will look, or what other will think ? Seriously, it's ridiculous.. Negotiation goes on everyday, somewhere in the business world. It's basically just asking a fucking question "will you accept a lower price" ? If you can do it when you buy a house, you can do it when you buy cock and ass......

[MikeyGMin]

If you don't see the difference between buying a house (a thing) and compensating a beautiful young man (a person) for an intimate encounter, then you are never going to understand.

 

The way you talk about escorts, it's pretty clear that you have no respect for them as people. If you're able to negotiate "cock and ass" and get what you want from the encounter... More power to you. I'll stick with treating them as beautiful young men who are offering a service that I certainly have no right to expect but value highly.

[jjkrkwood]

If you don't see the difference between buying a house (a thing) and compensating a beautiful young man (a person) for an intimate encounter, then you are never going to understand.

 

The way you talk about escorts, it's pretty clear that you have no respect for them as people. If you're able to negotiate "cock and ass" and get what you want from the encounter... More power to you. I'll stick with treating them as beautiful young men who are offering a service that I certainly have no right to expect but value highly.

 

 

Sorry Mikey, I don't put ANYONE on the pedestal you've obviously created for your escorts. Its not about understanding or Not understanding and you are incorrect. I DO value escorts as people, and that's where it ends. They aren't Gods or above being asked to negotiate a price for the service they are offering. Print and runway models are also valued for their BEAUTY and ability to sell a product. But they are treated as commodities as well. Thats just the nature of the business.

This is NOT a love connection. The escort will never become my boyfriend (or at least that's highly doubtful). I understand that its probably correct to have the attitude you do towards this issue considering the nature of this site, but sorry, I cant buy into that.

[whipped guy]

I used to pay $500 for haircuts, but as I got older, I was able to negotiate the price down...

 

 

 

I'm quite the little haggler...

Haircuts?!?! I just arrived at the do me himself stage. It gets the job done, but like other things it's still not quite the same as the full experience. Still, for a haircut it more than works!

 

That's one reason why when it does come down to those "other things" in life I most certainly would never think of haggling! Never! Ever! I want to be assured of the full experience!

[MiamiLooker]

If you don't see the difference between buying a house (a thing) and compensating a beautiful young man (a person) for an intimate encounter, then you are never going to understand.

 

The way you talk about escorts, it's pretty clear that you have no respect for them as people. If you're able to negotiate "cock and ass" and get what you want from the encounter... More power to you. I'll stick with treating them as beautiful young men who are offering a service that I certainly have no right to expect but value highly.

Just curious, how often do escorts contact you asking to see you again?

[jjkrkwood]

Just curious, how often do escorts contact you asking to see you again?

 

 

I would suspect once a month when the rent is due

[Golem]

Hi all. I'm new here, but I wanted to comment on the doctor comparisons, looking at hourly rates. I once freelanced (in a different industry) where I mostly worked with individual clients for 1 hour sessions. When I started out, I had some advice on what to charge, and I thought the advised rates seemed expensive -- was I really worth that much, compared with the equivalent (2.5x lower) hourly rate of a salaried worker?

 

What I quickly discovered was that those rates cover not only the hour I'm with the client, but also any planning or prepping time, travel time, time and energy spent on communication and scheduling logistics (which can be substantial), as well as a portion of my professional overhead -- the time I spent maintaining and updating my own skills & equipment. For salaried occupations, like doctors, all the hours spent on those things are part of their workday and are covered by their salary. For hourly occupations, they aren't, so you have to take that time into account when you see an hourly rate that looks pricier than expected.

 

So if someone asked about a lower price, and then said "OK, I totally understand" when I said no -- that was cool. Those were fine clients. The ones who tried to negotiate again after I said no -- they rarely worked out, because neither one of us felt like we were getting quite what we deserved.

[jjkrkwood]

I used to pay $500 for haircuts, but as I got older, I was able to negotiate the price down...

 

 

 

I'm quite the little haggler...

 

MsAnnie, I can certainly see why your haircuts cost $500... If I were YOU, I'd feel embarrassed NOT to pay full price for THAT !

 

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