Screening & LE

[MrMattBig]

Hey everyone, I have been in a very tough situation.

 

These past three months LE has contacted me several times. There were a few times where I let my guard down and actually agreed and made arraignments with LE (with the assumption they were not LE) and ever since then they contact me using different numbers multiple times during the week. They have been posing as men, women, and couples. Sometimes they are vulgar and explicit and sometimes they are not.

 

What has saved me is a very close lady friend who is an escort will sometimes screen my clients. On those occasions she was able to confirm the person contacting me was affiliated with the law. Pretty scary, these are not just assumptions we were both able to verify and confirm. I wasn’t so worried until I recently set appointment (let my guard down again). I honestly thought all was well, I spoke to him on the phone, we connected very well. He told me about himself, gave me his full name which connected to his caller ID. An hour before the appointment I decided to screen is name. I was able to find out he was senior “sergeant” with Santa Monic PD who resided in Ventura county (which is where he stated he was coming from). Lucky the complex I was at was very huge and my friend was able to stake out the area and confirm multiple suspicious LE activities.

 

I know this is not the smartest idea to post this but I want everyone to know what has been happening. I have had several incidents from orange county, LA, and the SFV. I think is very important to be safe. They could just be hot from me because I was gullible but you never know.

 

Every time they are very persistant and want to know my location more than anything. Often female escorts will change their identity, screen heavy, or take a break. I think it would be very weird to one day be Matt then be Justin another day. A lot of my clients are married, have a girlfriend, or a boyfriend and are not willing to provide personal information for screening purposes. They are often afraid of being exposed. On top of that I get a lot of clients that want to know what I am into being that I am bisexual and want to confirm I am fun to be around. Any advice would be great in terms of screening and how to avoid LE.

 

Also be safe and don’t let your guard down like I did. Of course don’t be overly paranoid, but unfortunately the law is not on our side.

[gallahadesquire]

For those of us who are clueless, LE means law enforcement.

[craigville beach]

time to move

[bigvalboy]

For those of us who are clueless, LE means law enforcement.

 

Thank you...I was clueless, and yes as CB says...might be time to move.

[gallahadesquire]

time to move

 

Thank you...I was clueless, and yes as CB says...might be time to move.

 

Move whither?

[craigville beach]

Move whither?

 

relocate to a different part of the country. if he feels that LE is on to him he needs to disconnect from the area where he is currently located for a while. LE won't follow him, they appear to be wise to him and will keep trying to sucker him in somehow or just pester him

[bigvalboy]

Move whither?

 

I agree...if LE keeps doing this, then his business is being impacted, and it will cripple his ability to earn income. If he is a renter, then possibly it would be easier to just move on.

[caliguy]

What complete BS. Talk about victim less crimes. Funny how most of LA doesn't bother with this BS but as soon as you get out to the conservative areas like SFV and Orange it suddenly becomes a priority for them.

 

I wonder if their tax payers are fine with their taxes being spent on this cat and mouse BS.

[BabyBoomer]

I got calls this morning that LAPD was inviting backpage advertisers to the Medici Apartments near dtla.

 

If you think LE doesn't contact guys, read here: http://www.latimes.com/local/abcarian/la-me-0129-abcarian-sex-traffic-20160129-column.html

 

If you've been cited and need any assistance, lmk.

 

Danny Cruz posted this a week ago.

 

~ Boomer ~

[LADoug1]

I know this is not the smartest idea to post this but I want everyone to know what has been happening.

 

I think it is a VERY smart idea to post this.

[+ Truereview]

Three months and several attempts to get ya? Man, they have a hardon for you. I think it would be worth the investment to take a short hiatus from active advertising, change phone#, and tell regulars where to reach you. Come back when they move on to the next fad. Use new pix & ph # and change profile key phrases. It all sounds like a pain, but the alternative sounds even worse! Good luck!

[+ not2rowdy]

It would be wise to research attorneys in your area - before you might need one - and have some numbers in your phone. Maybe memorize one since your phone may be confiscated immediately upon arrest.

 

http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/protocols-for-escorts-what-to-do-if-youre-arrested.107413/#post-999867

 

It would also be a good time to review your client and data security. If you don’t have your client info in an encrypted section on your phone and your computer you should consider doing that. At the very minimum they should be password protected. And you should have a backup of your data (encrypted) in a location other than your home.

[+ Truereview]

Not trying to sound like an alarmist but did anyone see James Daniel's post this morning? He is also in LA. Probably not related but the timing is eerie. http://www.companyofmen.org/threads/james-daniel-los-angeles.111982/#post-1061900

[caliguy]

Danny Cruz posted this a week ago.

 

~ Boomer ~

"How prostitution is 'modern-day slavery,' and what law enforcement is doing to stop it"

 

"These days, law enforcement is centered on ferreting out exploitation and stopping it. "Whether it's in sex trafficking or labor trafficking," Stenderup said, "we're looking for the exploiters. This is modern-day slavery. Our ultimate goal is the recovery of minors who are human trafficking victims."

 

" in one of the hotel rooms, authorities were waiting for a male prostitute who had arranged to service a decoy client."

 

This sounds like something out of the 50s when they used the same scare tactics about gay men. Funny that they don't cite actual research other then what the cops tell them to write. Who exactly are the exploiters and who or what is the slave? What a shitty article.

 

I watched a vice show recently about this. These good ol boy cops were laughing their asses off busting people. Hey it's good easy work I guess.

[instudiocity]

The LA Times article was reported on January 29th, and from Santa Clara. Levi's Stadium was the site of the Super Bowl then next weekend.

 

I'm struggling to see any context here of LAPD operating more stings than normal.

[MrMattBig]

I think it is a VERY smart idea to post this.

This is something that definitely should be put out there, not just for myself but for escorts and clients as well. Lucky I do have a few regulars so I am not actively seeking new clients.

[MrMattBig]

I wonder if their tax payers are fine with their taxes being spent on this cat and mouse BS.

 

I'm struggling to see any context here of LAPD operating more stings than normal.

 

So I was up doing research last night. I am just curious to see if it is just me or anyone they think they can get their hands on. I found theses useful articles.

 

http://www.sanfernandosun.com/news/article_a050a660-c5d8-11e5-a002-173a31a1144f.html

 

http://www.dailynews.com/social-affairs/20151117/pimps-and-johns-beware-the-valley-gets-its-own-human-trafficking-task-force

 

http://reason.com/blog/2015/10/15/fbi-sponsors-operation-cross-country-ix

[MrMattBig]

Three months and several attempts to get ya? Man, they have a hardon for you. I think it would be worth the investment to take a short hiatus from active advertising, change phone#, and tell regulars where to reach you. Come back when they move on to the next fad. Use new pix & ph # and change profile key phrases. It all sounds like a pain, but the alternative sounds even worse! Good luck!

 

Thanks, haha looks like I am going to need it.

From a clients prospective would it be weird if I changed my identity? I sometimes get asked if I am "real" lol. How can I maintain my authenticity and still change my identity?

[+ Truereview]

Thanks, haha looks like I am going to need it.

From a clients prospective would it be weird if I changed my identity? I sometimes get asked if I am "real" lol. How can I maintain my authenticity and still change my identity?

From my perspective, you are not changing your identity by changing your escort handle. New pix are no big deal. New phone#? Lol, digits change all the time. Changing your profile a bit? Everybody does maintenance. Taking a short hiatus to skirt the heat...priceless.

[MikeyGMin]

Thanks, haha looks like I am going to need it.

From a clients prospective would it be weird if I changed my identity? I sometimes get asked if I am "real" lol. How can I maintain my authenticity and still change my identity?

 

Start telling your regulars ahead of time so they will be up to speed. Anyone new is new so they'll never know the difference. If you have any reviews on this site (sorry too lazy to look) that might be a different issue. Pretty sure I have seen that Daddy can handle the name change, but that kind of defeats part of the purpose of starting a new identity. I'm sure this site is well known to both those that share and oppose our interests.

[caliguy]

So I was up doing research last night. I am just curious to see if it is just me or anyone they think they can get their hands on. I found theses useful articles.

 

http://www.sanfernandosun.com/news/article_a050a660-c5d8-11e5-a002-173a31a1144f.html

 

http://www.dailynews.com/social-affairs/20151117/pimps-and-johns-beware-the-valley-gets-its-own-human-trafficking-task-force

 

http://reason.com/blog/2015/10/15/fbi-sponsors-operation-cross-country-ix

There's the traditional street walkers that the community was concerned about. There you will find exploitation and such. However, looks like the task force is expanding out into other areas looking at it as all the same. They need to justify their budgets too. I'm sure there's more then a few bigots on that force.

 

So damn ridiculous going after gay male escorts though. No where no how is any of the BS applicable. Pure harassment and police homophobia as usual.

[instudiocity]

So I was up doing research last night. I am just curious to see if it is just me or anyone they think they can get their hands on. I found theses useful articles.

 

http://www.sanfernandosun.com/news/article_a050a660-c5d8-11e5-a002-173a31a1144f.html

 

http://www.dailynews.com/social-affairs/20151117/pimps-and-johns-beware-the-valley-gets-its-own-human-trafficking-task-force

 

http://reason.com/blog/2015/10/15/fbi-sponsors-operation-cross-country-ix

Congratulations! You've found even older news articles regarding girls on the stroll on Lankershim & Van Nuys Blvds. Still not pertinent to the business of rent boys online getting busted for answering calls at hotels or private residences.

 

As for me, I'm checking out Jimmy D after his ad drops off next month

[MrMattBig]

Congratulations! You've found even older news articles regarding girls on the stroll on Lankershim & Van Nuys Blvds. Still not pertinent to the business of rent boys online getting busted for answering calls at hotels or private residences.

 

 

Now we can debate rather or not these task forces are intended for women or men. Bottle line is an escort is an escort, it doesn't matter if you are a woman, man, transgender man, transgender woman, or client. We are all at risk, yeah there are more women that are escorts but does not take the heat completely off of anyone else. These are three of many recent articles. I can sit up here and list every recent article that does not mention Lankershim & Van Nuys Blvd* but that is beside the point. The point here is I have received many calls and I am not the only male escort who does. Matter a fact just yesterday I had an evidence specialist that works with LAPD try to book an appointment, I wonder how many guys he tried to contact? Come on, they don’t just want me, they want to bust anyone whom they consider a prostitute or is involved in solicitation. However, we all can continue our square lives and act like we are not targets until one of us gets arrested and decides to publicly announce it.

[instudiocity]

Now we can debate rather or not these task forces are intended for women or men. Bottle line is an escort is an escort, it doesn't matter if you are a woman, man, transgender man, transgender woman, or client. We are all at risk, yeah there are more women that are escorts but does not take the heat completely off of anyone else. These are three of many recent articles. I can sit up here and list every recent article that does not mention Lankershim & Van Nuys Blvd* but that is beside the point. The point here is I have received many calls and I am not the only male escort who does. Matter a fact just yesterday I had an evidence specialist that works with LAPD try to book an appointment, I wonder how many guys he tried to contact? Come on, they don’t just want me, they want to bust anyone whom they consider a prostitute or is involved in solicitation. However, we all can continue our square lives and act like we are not targets until one of us gets arrested and decides to publicly announce it.

My only point was the OP posted an LA Times article regarding pre-Super Bowl arrests in Santa Clara as though these things were happening in LA. Then you come up with older articles regarding vice arrests of girls on the stroll in the Valley.

 

Neither are germane to a discussion of Internet advertisers of services and their patrons.

[MrMattBig]

My only point was the OP posted an LA Times article regarding pre-Super Bowl arrests in Santa Clara as though these things were happening in LA. Then you come up with older articles regarding vice arrests of girls on the stroll in the Valley. Neither are germane to a discussion of Internet advertisers of services and their patrons.

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Dates:

 

January 28, 2016

 

November 17, 2015

 

October 15, 2015

 

 

Those dates very recent and may I also add they were all posted weeks/month apart. So you mean to tell me those dates are “old”. Funny, the article you are referring was printed January 29, 2016. You are trying to justify the relevance of an article based on rather it directly suggests male escorts or backpage etc. That is a basic level of thinking. Journalist report real news but keep details our government does not want them to publish out of the headlines. Furthermore, the key word in the articles I have found and the one you refer to is “Human trafficking”. They are all related. End of story. We both disagree, that has been made very clear.