411 on Alex from West Hollywood visiting Seattle

[seaguy206]

Does anyone have firsthand experience with Alex? His reviews on masseurfinder seem suspect...

Thanks!

 

http://www.masseurfinder.com/members/massagealex01/

 

http://www.massagem4m.com/ca/west-hollywood/17758/

[+ Gar1eth]

I don't know anything about him. But it must be heck to be that cute. I don't think I'd be able to handle it if it were me.

 

Gman

[Despardo]

He is also advertising on Rentmen as of yesterday. I could not find anything negative on him. Info on Rentmen jives with the two massage sites. With the run of fake ads on Rentmen lately, I was suspicious, but frankly, I think he may be legit.

He is really cute.

 

The only problem I see is that on the one massage site, he has garnered 12 rave reviews since September 16th, which is pretty amazing. He must be a busy boy and the greatest thing since sliced bread. Then again, maybe he is.

[needbodywork]

I found his social media and everything adds up with the pics. Dont know about the massage though.

[seaguy206]

I found his social media and everything adds up with the pics. Dont know about the massage though.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Can you explain?

[Despardo]

I just now found something very interesting. It seems Alex has an alter ego in Moscow by the name of Andrej Yurevich Klimov who is both a fashion model and a Russian talk show host.

 

http://worktalent.net/katalog/modeli/parni1/klimov-andrej-yurevich.html

 

For your convenience, here is a translation from worktalent:

 

Biography: Andrei Klimov. Born on February 17 at the geographical center of Russia. They graduated from high school (№ 202) and Novosibirsk College of Culture and Arts. He worked in the local town hall leading events at the sites of the city. From 2003 to 2006, Andrei Klimov was the author and presenter of the program "Kinoekspress" leading of program NEWS UNIT on MTV under the pseudonym of VJ Klim. In Moscow, Andrei Klimov finished GITR in "PB TV journalist." For a long time I worked as a news presenter of the program "Russian filling" the foreign broadcasting NTV. For a while, he was the leading daily social talk show "The confidence of youth" in the capital channel trust. Since March 2009th VJ Klim, aka Andrei Klimov, led the musical events in live band music channels MUSIC BOX: the program "Road to Life" and "Van Wilder"; program MUSIC BOX PARTY, Andrei Klimov, which led to the company's co-host, singer Julia Lasker (http://julialasker.ru), was shot in the Paradise club every Thursday from January to December 2010. Today Andrei Klimov works on radio and television, is a variety of activities. Besides Andrei Klimov has a vast experience of such events as parties, weddings, birthdays, children's parties, corporate parties, anniversaries, theme parties. (Biography from the official site: http://AndreyKlimov.com)

 

Now it is just possible that Andrei left his career as a model and TV host in Russia to become a masseur in the US. Right. I had a lot of trouble copying any of his pictures to Google Image Search since the massage sites have the pictures protected and wouldn't let me copy and save the images, EXCEPT for the one on the title page which led me to all of the others! Check out his video on Worktalent--he speaks Russian just like a native! Quel surprise. Odd that none of his 12 ecstatic reviewers mentioned his charming Russian accent. Of course, he could be totally bilingual with no accent. Yeah, right.

 

The person advertising on the 2 massage sites is almost certainly the same Alex (Vidus) advertising on RentMen. In both cases, specialty is massage+ and both prefer text messages to emails and make a great point of that. The pictures could be of the same guy, but now I don't think so since if the massage site pics are fake, the escort pics probably are too. Too bad. He really is a looker.

 

If he really is the same guy as the Russian TV star and model, then I have done him a disservice.

[Despardo]

I got an answer to my inquiry about Alex's pictures from M4M. Below is their email and my reply:

 

 

Andrew (MassageM4M Support)

 

Oct 21, 10:02

 

Hello,

 

Verified Masseurs have gone through a video verification with our staff. We have confirmed that the masseur in this ad is the person in the photos.

 

Have a nice day.

 

Best Regards,

Andrew

 

I just responded to them:

 

Thank you. I am glad you verified Alex's pictures through video chat. What confuses me is that all the exact same pictures belong to a Russian TV personality/model named Andrew Klimov whose bio and resume appear in full on the following link:

 

http://worktalent.net/katalog/modeli/parni1/klimov-andrej-yurevich.html

Here is your site:

 

http://www.massagem4m.com/ca/west-hollywood/17758

 

There is absolutely NO QUESTION but that the pictures are the same. There is a video as well. Now it is just possible that Alex and Mr. Klimov are the same person, but I fear highly unlikely. The bio is in Russian, but Google Translator did a commendable job with it. Mr. Klimov's career in Russian TV started 12 years ago. Alex on your site claims to be 24 years old now. Do the math.

[+ Gar1eth]

I found his social media and everything adds up with the pics. Dont know about the massage though.

 

I'm not quite sure what you mean by this. Can you explain?

 

Seaguy, it means that Needlebodywork found public profiles on Internet sites like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or other public sites which have pictures (the so-called 'social media' sites) that have pictures and identifying data which Needle believes match up with the information and pictures that Alex is showing in his ad.

 

For example if say if Escort A were advertising on Rentmen and in his ad states that he is 24 and visiting Seattle. Needle finds an Instagram or Facebook account by using a Google Image Search of someone with the exact same pictures. But when Needle looks at the Instagram or Facebook account finds information that says the guy is 32 and currently residing in Paris, then odds are the guy advertising is a picture thief. I mean it's possible the Parisian guy is visiting the United States and has decided to shave a few (8) years off his age. But it's more likely the guy advertising is a picture thief. The more details you can find on the Social Media Site that corroborate with the details given in the ad, the more likely it is that the guy in the ad and the guy on, for example, Instagram are one and the same.

 

Gman

[+ Gar1eth]

He is also advertising on Rentmen as of yesterday. I could not find anything negative on him. Info on Rentmen jives with the two massage sites. With the run of fake ads on Rentmen lately, I was suspicious, but frankly, I think he may be legit.

He is really cute.

 

The only problem I see is that on the one massage site, he has garnered 12 rave reviews since September 16th, which is pretty amazing. He must be a busy boy and the greatest thing since sliced bread. Then again, maybe he is.

 

 

While it may be the same (very possibly fake guy) on Rentmen, his phone number is different than on the massage ads. Also he doesn't show his face head on in the Rentmen ads, and I think he lists a different age. The first picture in his Rentmen profile looks vaguely like the pictures in the massage ad which are the same as the Russian broadcaster. But I wouldn't be able to swear that the other two partial face pictures are depicting the same guy as the 1st picture in the ad much less the massage ads.

 

I'm thinking there is a very high likelihood you are correct, and if the ad on Rentmen is the massage guy, he is using fake pictures.

 

Gman

[Brian Kevin]

We need to open a cat fish store website to fund more research on this shit.

 

Some of you guys could get info from people and track down if they're real or not.

It could be fun and exciting.

 

Like that tv show Cheaters

 

Just more exciting with us :] !!!

[Despardo]

While it may be the same (very possibly fake guy) on Rentmen, his phone number is different than on the massage ads. Also he doesn't show his face head on in the Rentmen ads, and I think he lists a different age. The first picture in his Rentmen profile looks vaguely like the pictures in the massage ad which are the same as the Russian broadcaster. But I wouldn't be able to swear that the other two partial face pictures are depicting the same guy as the 1st picture in the ad much less the massage ads.

 

I'm thinking there is a very high likelihood you are correct, and if the ad on Rentmen is the massage guy, he is using fake pictures.

 

Gman

BIG UPDATE. I am eating crow. Just had a long email exchange with Alex pursuant to someone discovering this link and bringing it to my attention:

 

https://www.facebook.com/VJKlim

 

The Russian pics are legit. The Facebook pics are legit. The MassageM4M pics are legit. WHAT WERE THE ODDS OF THAT?

 

From the Facebook page, it seems the guy is gay (just got married too.) Explains maybe why he moved from Russia to Miami. There are pictures on FB that more closely resemble those in the RM ad. The fact that he doesn't show his face in the RM ad is totally understandable. The copy in the RM ad is the same as in the M4M ad ( You Will Be Happy.) From his texts, I am convinced the guy in the RM ad and M4M ads are the same person (from what he said, and from what he didn't say.) I think he is lying about his age a bit, but who cares about that? Also, it is not uncommon to use different phone numbers for each ad running to be able to track the source of he calls--I've done this in my previous business.

 

I tried to book him, but unfortunately we cannot get together before he flies out tomorrow night (he is not doing incalls this trip.) Damn! Occasionally, what looks too good to be true actually IS true. My loss for being suspicious, but in the current climate of fake ads, can anyone blame me? I apologized to M4M.

[seaguy206]

Seaguy, it means that Needlebodywork found public profiles on Internet sites like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or other public sites which have pictures (the so-called 'social media' sites) that have pictures and identifying data which Needle believes match up with the information and pictures that Alex is showing in his ad.

 

For example if say if Escort A were advertising on Rentmen and in his ad states that he is 24 and visiting Seattle. Needle finds an Instagram or Facebook account by using a Google Image Search of someone with the exact same pictures. But when Needle looks at the Instagram or Facebook account finds information that says the guy is 32 and currently residing in Paris, then odds are the guy advertising is a picture thief. I mean it's possible the Parisian guy is visiting the United States and has decided to shave a few (8) years off his age. But it's more likely the guy advertising is a picture thief. The more details you can find on the Social Media Site that corroborate with the details given in the ad, the more likely it is that the guy in the ad and the guy on, for example, Instagram are one and the same.

 

Gman

Thanks for clarifying!