Escorts & Porn Stars Who Bareback

[Barnaby Gil]

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[MiamiLooker]

Anyone who won’t hire an escort simply because he barebacks in films or doesn’t list “always safe” in his ad is discriminating, and that’s just wrong, nasty and rude.

[loverboy95]

While I would not discriminate against anyone, my preference is those who play safe in all cases, even in porn.

[+ Axiom2001]

Use a condom. Does no one have condomsense anymore? I go by the mind set of "what you do when you're not with me is none of my concern, what you do when you are with me is all of my concern".

 

I wholeheartedly agree! I've been with one knowingly escort who prefers to bareback, but I've told him rather emphatically if he wants me to fuck him, then I will be using condoms. To date he's not received my "big, hard pole" which he'd yearned! I am a proponent of "safer play" whenever...!!!

[MiamiLooker]

Use a condom. Does no one have condomsense anymore? I go by the mind set of "what you do when you're not with me is none of my concern, what you do when you are with me is all of my concern".

 

Good advice. Assuming the escort is the f*cker and the client is the f*ckee, if the condom should break, the escort will most definitely inform the client and immediately pull out. All escorts are honest this way, even those that usually bareback. And always remember, an escort that barebacks considers your health just as important as he considers his own.

[marylander1940]

I was wondering if you guys opt out of hiring porn stars who've done bareback porn or escorts who list never safe or sometimes safe. Do you just hire guys using a condom or limit it to oral sex at most? What about hiring two different guys who bareback and simply watching? In the age of Truvada and PrEP, has that changed your selection when it comes to sex workers? Is there a self-segregation when it comes to STIs?

 

I wouldn't hire them!

 

Btw, I always do the test of emailing guys asking for safe sex, after that I sent another email asking for BB, 80% of the ones who told they always use condoms accept to take it or give it raw...

 

http://stokereport.s3.amazonaws.com/ab9cea68d0933acc621f18363190511b.jpg

[LookingAround]

I think it's ironic that so many focus on whether someone has done bb porn all the while ignoring the data that sheer NUMBER of partners poses an independent risk factor for HIV infection. So those escorts who are busiest that is have had the most partners pose a statistically higher risk. They don't want to hear it (for reasons of cognitive dissonance and pocketbook) but it's a fact.

[ZhenXBear]

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/stds-hiv-safer-sex/safer-sex

 

Condoms do not prevent problems with cytomegalovirus (CMV), herpes, HPV, pubic lice, and scabies due to skin-to-skin contact. Oral sex without condoms could still lead to HPV, CMV, gonorrhea, syphilis, hepatitis B, and herpes.

 

 

You accurate in the most basic sense of terms, but here's some information that may assuage a few of these:

 

• CMV - Nearly 80% of the U.S. Adult population has been exposed to CMV. Chances are you have. Really only a concern in patients who have serious immunodeficiencies and then it's not a given.
  
• Herpes - About 90% of population exposed to HSV-1 and 15.5% HSV-2 (genital). Your (a male) chances of contracting it from someone who has it: 2.6%
  
• Pubic Lice - Really?! Shampoos will treat this
  
• Scabies - Are you planning on sleeping with. Companion that hasn't bathed in days? The highest prevailing population in the U.S. are our homeless. They're episodic at best in the U.S. And treatable with medication.
  
• HPV - With over 100 serotypes there's always a Gardasil vaccination for the genital common strains
  
• Hepatitis B - If you aren't inoculated against this already, just go get the vaccine series. Only an idiot wouldn't do it.
  
• Syphillis - Yes, you can get thus orally if you are planning on putting your lips on infected sores of someone's manhood. Not in my playbook.
  

Sure, there are risks involved in everything. Your chances of being killed in your evening commute home are statistically higher than any of the activities that occur when two men are up close and very personal. Personally, I'll practice safer sex and buckle my seatbelt before I ever stop sucking dick.

[ZhenXBear]

If you're that paranoid it sounds to me you might want to invest in some kind of biochemical suit to wear during your encounters. Or ask if they'll agree to a thorough examination under a miscroscooe before hand. I'm having a hard time coming up with other solutions that might help you conquer these fears.

 

• A complete physical examination, full battery of the appropriate laboratory diagnostic tests
  
• A type III biological containment lab for starters.
  
• Once those conditions are met both the escort and the client strip down, douse themselves in lubricant and enter there yellow suites with self contained oxygen rebreathers.
  
• Each enters the room through a separate airlock
  
• As your lust filled gazes meet through your visors, you stumble through some cumbersome fore play
  
• The night culminates in an orgasmic frontal frotage (with periodic safety checks for abrasions and remaining oxygen)
  

Now if you excuse me, I need a cold shower after describing this sultry encounter :rolleyes:

[ZhenXBear]

I'm not sure where you're getting your figures. Having lost a dear friend, I'll just include these links from regarding HPV and throat cancer...

 

http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpvandoropharyngealcancer.htm

 

http://oralcancerfoundation.org/hpv/hpv-oral-cancer-facts.php

 

http://www.mountsinai.org/patient-care/service-areas/ent/areas-of-care/head-and-neck-cancer/oral-cancer/hpv/infographics/hpv-oral-sex-cancer

 

Barnaby, I'm definitely sorry for your loss. You must realize though that statistically the number of cases of HPV 16 serotype related oral cancer are small. 7% of people have oral HPV but only 1% have HPV16. The U.S. averages 1.1 deaths per 100,000 men for throat cancer. This doesn't even factor in a persons sexual proclivities.

[Guest ChrisW]

I could cite facts about transmission rates among HIV positive individuals with undetectable viral loads AGAIN but they always seem to fall on deaf ears. If your worried about HIV use a condom and or prep. There are still STI's as listed above that can be contracted from skin to skin contact or through oral sex. If your REALLY concerned about STI's then you probably shouldn't be having sex. There is a price of admission to have sex, there is a risk of your dick getting a cold so ask yourself is it worth it?

 

Y'all can hem and haw till the cows come home about sti prevention but the real key is testing. If your a sex worker every 3 months is not enough, go in every month to get yourself checked out. Don't just ask your escort about there safer sex practices, ask them how often they get tested.

 

ALSO!!!!! If your having sex with people who have a lot of sexual partners get yourself checked out quarterly. There is anonymous testing in nearly every major city for those of you that are on the down low.

[marylander1940]

I think it's ironic that so many focus on whether someone has done bb porn all the while ignoring the data that sheer NUMBER of partners poses an independent risk factor for HIV infection. So those escorts who are busiest that is have had the most partners pose a statistically higher risk. They don't want to hear it (for reasons of cognitive dissonance and pocketbook) but it's a fact.

 

I'd rather hiring someone who used a condom with 50 guys in one month, instead of hiring someone who barebacked with 30 guys in a month.

 

carrots and sticks, if an escorts BB what else is he into, he doesn't give a fuck about protecting himself...

[marylander1940]

I could cite facts about transmission rates among HIV positive individuals with undetectable viral loads AGAIN but they always seem to fall on deaf ears. If your worried about HIV use a condom and or prep. There are still STI's as listed above that can be contracted from skin to skin contact or through oral sex. If your REALLY concerned about STI's then you probably shouldn't be having sex. There is a price of admission to have sex, there is a risk of your dick getting a cold so ask yourself is it worth it?

 

Y'all can hem and haw till the cows come home about sti prevention but the real key is testing. If your a sex worker every 3 months is not enough, go in every month to get yourself checked out. Don't just ask your escort about there safer sex practices, ask them how often they get tested.

 

ALSO!!!!! If your having sex with people who have a lot of sexual partners get yourself checked out quarterly. There is anonymous testing in nearly every major city for those of you that are on the down low.

 

What about just using condoms and assuming everybody else is poz and you're the only negative person?

 

Do you BB with your clients?

 

Ask them how often they get tested? Do people lie?

[Steven_Draker]

It's funny that anyone who raises a safer sex question is immediately labeled "paranoid" ...

 

Good advice. Assuming the escort is the f*cker and the client is the f*ckee, if the condom should break, the escort will most definitely inform the client and immediately pull out. All escorts are honest this way, even those that usually bareback. And always remember, an escort that barebacks considers your health just as important as he considers his own.

 

In other words he wouldn't care at all, right? I wouldn't expect anyone who barebacks with others to take better care of my own health.

 

May I remind everyone that there are several documented cases of escorts purposely and secretely removing the condom during intercourse without the client's consent.

 

And back to the original topic ... let's face it: in the age of PrEP, barebacking is becoming more and more the norm. But several health specialists are warning us about the explosion of chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis rates.

 

[ZhenXBear]

Again I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers.

 

In the first link, the CDC states: "Each year, in the U.S., about 9,000 people are diagnosed with cancers of the oropharynx that may be caused by HPV. Cancers of the oropharynx are about four times more common in men than women." From the second link from the oral cancer foundation: " Even then, it is a very small number of people that will have an HPV infection cascade all the way into an oral malignancy, though that number is increasing every year by about 10%."

 

Assume for a moment that 100% of the 9,000 cases that "may" be caused by HPV are all men. There are 151.4 million men in the United States. This is incredibly generous. This means that under these absurd statistics 0.0059% of men get oral cancer each year. The reason for the word "may" in the CDC's assessment is because we really do not yet know the underlying relationship between cancer and HPV. There are other factors such as age, gender, tobacco and alcohol use, poor nutrition, UV exposure and immunodeficiencies that play into whether or not a person who happens to have HPV-16 serotype will also develop oropharyngeal cancer.

 

Cancers of the mouth are rare in comparison to other forms of cancer. Between 2006-2010 the CDC documented 33,200 HPV associated cancers in total. The majority occur in women (20,600). The most common being cervical cancer.

 

To somehow draw a line between someone who is or has participated in the adult video industry to a conclusion that interactions with them will somehow emphatically result in that person developing oropharyngeal cancer is absurd. Even if 100% of all adult entertainment participants had HPV-16 there's no direct correlation between exposure and prognosis at the juncture. If this concerns you this much I strongly suggest you go get swabbed and have virological serotyping done. If it comes up positive, never have oral sex again or kiss anyone. It will be the only way you can rest assured that you won't give someone a statistical chance to develop oral cancer.

[Guest ChrisW]

What about just using condoms and assuming everybody else is poz and you're the only negative person?

 

Do you BB with your clients?

 

Ask them how often they get tested? Do people lie?

Didn't I just say that if your concerned about HIV to use a condom? As for the rest of your questions you seem a tad hostile and based some of your other posts, paranoid/unbalanced. While I still have a few years until I am licensed mental health practitioner I would be more than happy to give you some names of folks that provide excellent care.

[Steven_Draker]

Does no one have condomsense anymore?

 

Fewer and fewer people have that sense today ... Just look at the current porn trend and increased number of profiles on Adam4Adam/Grindr/Scruff from guys looking for "uninhibited" sex.

 

Condoms do protect, but let's not forget about incubation period of all STDs if you engage into unsafe/bareback anonymous sex.

 

Finally, any escort who publicly admits to engage into barebacking will lose business, hence the lack of response from many and the lack of openness around it.

[buckguy]

All you can know is from what transpires with a partner, paid or otherwise. It's helpful to discuss sexual histories and negotiate condoms, etc. with any partner. Being in PrEP or ARVs requires that you be willing to believe whatever you're told. Any discussion of what they do with other partners requires the same.

 

As for facts.....STIs can be transmitted orally. Number of partners actually contribute to STI incidence over and above any sexual practices; however, the average escort is going to have a bigger number than the average client. They also are going to be stuck with the same circumstances...all they know is what happens with whom ever they have as a partner. My guess is that the biggest risk to male escorts probably is the same as the biggest risk to female escorts....non-commercial partners. Those partnerships probably are more likely to be unprotected. they involve emotional investment and trust if they're committed. They may represent something else, like uninhibited fun if they are otherwise.

 

In the end, you can be old fashioned and assume anyone is positive and use a condom, which doesn't prevent everything. You can use medication and live with the lack of STI protection. Regardless, you have to deal with things that are transmitted orally. STIs are not something to dismiss, esp. in large coastal cities, they are increasingly resistant to treatment and HCV (treatable but expensive) is transmitted through sex. Usually it's HIV+ gay men. It's a problem in NYC and in Europe and probably a matter of time elsewhere.

 

So...no matter what there's risk. If you're HIV-, you can wrap yourself up in plastic, latex whatever (noted previously) or you can figure out what you can live with. If you're HIV+, like it or not, you have to to also think about what you can transmit.

 

Passing on someone who isn't safe isn't "discrimination" any more than passing on someone who has tattoos or is shaved or hairy or whatever. But it's not foolproof.

[marylander1940]

Didn't I just say that if your concerned about HIV to use a condom? As for the rest of your questions you seem a tad hostile and based some of your other posts, paranoid/unbalanced. While I still have a few years until I am licensed mental health practitioner I would be more than happy to give you some names of folks that provide excellent care.

 

Daddy Sez: But you did say it, and now you get take a break.

 

I don't know if you had too much coffee but you need to calm down a little bit.

 

I'm just pro condom because I had so many friends die of AIDS in the 80's. To PrEP or not to... why would you pass the bill to the rest of the country when you can just wear a condom.

[mmk123]

I think that we all have to admit that we have all had sex with someone who was HIV positive or had some other disease and did not know it. Yes the person would have said "no" when you asked "are you disease free" but unless you are pulling out all kinds of tests for them to take you are never going to know for sure and just have to take their word for it.

 

However, if you choose not to use a condom when you are in the position to use one and if you catch something then you have no one to blame but yourself.

[+ deej]

There is a price of admission to have sex

 

This.

 

There is no such thing as safe sex. There is only safer sex. It's still potentially life-threatening.

 

The only absolute guarantee is abstinence. The rest is risk management and it is YOUR risk to manage.

 

As I've said many times, ONLY YOU can take responsibility for YOUR sexual health. Nobody else can, should, or will.

[+ ArVaGuy]

This debate can be settled if everyone would just follow Leslie Neilson's sage advice.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh4yp07UKEg

[jcmiami1]

It drives me nuts that's it 2015 and these conversations continue! Anyways if your so paranoid about "catching" something well don't go fucking around, use your right or left hand instead and stay home. HIV is not that easy to catch as some STD's are- but again if you don't know much about HIV - research - may I recommend thebody.com as a superb resource.

Let's face it, barebacking is happening frequently now again, you know the risks and if you get anything - well again - you knew the risks. If your insurance covers Truvada as PreP or you have a rich sugar daddy that can afford to buy you it full price by all means take it.

I see this way too often guys that simply ask "are you clean?"and take the "yes" answer as 100% truth...well you're ignorant or stupid then...many people are carriers of STD's but are totally asymptomatic with no visible symptoms yet.

Bottom line if you're so concerned over hiring an escort because he did bareback porn, don't hire him period. Bottom line #2 it's all about common sense - but wait - common sense is almost dead these days so we're all fucked now LOL!

[+ ArVaGuy]

It drives me nuts that's it 2015 and these conversations continue! Anyways if your so paranoid about "catching" something well don't go fucking around, use your right or left hand instead and stay home. HIV is not that easy to catch as some STD's are- but again if you don't know much about HIV - research - may I recommend thebody.com as a superb resource.

Let's face it, barebacking is happening frequently now again, you know the risks and if you get anything - well again - you knew the risks. If your insurance covers Truvada as PreP or you have a rich sugar daddy that can afford to buy you it full price by all means take it.

I see this way too often guys that simply ask "are you clean?"and take the "yes" answer as 100% truth...well you're ignorant or stupid then...many people are carriers of STD's but are totally asymptomatic with no visible symptoms yet.

Bottom line if you're so concerned over hiring an escort because he did bareback porn, don't hire him period. Bottom line #2 it's all about common sense - but wait - common sense is almost dead these days so we're all fucked now LOL!

 

 

http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv-and-men.htm

 

There's one STD that gets left out of these circular arguments in this debate, namely , the Human Pampilloma Virus, HPV. Well into the tens of millions of sexually active adults already have this virus and don't know it. If you've ever had sex -oral or anal- you likely may have contacted HPV. The genitals just need to come into contact for transmission.

 

Genital warts, and or anal warts are the least of the worries with this virus. It can be a primary cause of most cervical cancers in women and anal cancers in males. It can be years between exposure and diagnosis. For many, anal warts won't be discovered till the first colonoscopy at the recommend age of fifty. Individuals could have contracted HPV in college, carried the virus, passed it on, and never know they were infected.

 

Vacations are recommended. Before becoming sexually active...like the age of nine to eleven years old. How many parents are going to entertain the thought of vaccinating a nine year old for a sexually transmitted disease?

 

So flip out about HIV, Syphilis, Gonorrhea, and the like all you want. It's very likely one may be carrying the HPV infection and not know it.

[ZhenXBear]

http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/stdfact-hpv-and-men.htm

 

Vacations are recommended. Before becoming sexually active...like the age of nine to eleven years old. How many parents are going to entertain the thought of vaccinating a nine year old for a sexually transmitted disease?

 

More than you might think. It's actually not a difficult sell. The majority of Family Practice physicians and Internal medicine physicians are recommending them and educating both children and parents about the dangers of HPV. Especially woman, since HPV is the near majority cause of cervical cancer in females. Telling a parent that getting this vaccination may prevent their child from developing cervical cancer as an adult is not a difficult "Sell". Insurance companies are covering costs because the see the long term cost savings. The reason that there's a recommended cutoff in age, is because statistically by the age of 26 most people have been exposed.

 

It is, however, important to remember that exposure to *any* form of HPV does not necessarily mean that a person is going to develop cervical cancer, throat cancer, genital warts, etc. There are a myriad of other factors that contribute to whether or not an exposed person will go on to develop a cancer that might be linked to HPV.