Need help finding a "ultra high-end" escort - for my boss!

[Steven_Draker]

The only thing I could find on Google was a tv show. Is that what you're talking about?

 

Or am I right to think, based on SundayZip's like, that you're being a wise ass too?

 

I'm not being a wiseass, Danneeoo ... I was just trying to be helpful.

 

I don't know for how long have you been on this Message Forum, but the owner of the now defunct "A-list" in New York has the greatest selection of high-end guys that you seem to be looking for. They don't advertise anywhere and you won't find them on Google.

 

If you're interested feel free to PM me.

 

Cheers!

[danneeoo]

The reason you arent getting guys to respond to you on rentboy is because this sounds very ficticious and like a yank on the chain. When I go to LA I get texts like this sometimes from these "assistants". I'd rather see a client whos down to earth, easy going and is middle class, than someone who is ultra wealthy and highly demanding, controlling and telling me how many clients I can create relationships with. No gracias.

 

To prove this is a real inquiry I'd suggest sending them $100 no questions asked VIA Paypal or Venmo. If your boss is wealthy and money isn't an issue this shouldn't be a problem. Also, consider who you're emailing. If its a popular guy, this sounds like way too many hoops to jump through when he can just put his availability light on, travel to a different city and throw an ad up, or service his regular clients. Dont talk about it be about it. Show them you are SERIOUS.

 

There are a lot of assumptions/projections a lot of you have placed on this scenario based on, honestly I don't know what, among them that my boss wants to control how many clients someone has. As stated in my first post, he wants to hire someone who is, for himself, on his own accord, ultra discerning and limits his clientele. Maybe those escorts don't exist, but coming completely from the outside with not a ton to go on, I was under the impression from previous threads that these people exist. Again, if all these assumptions/projections/reading comprehension problems were factored out of this thread, the discussion wouldn't have gotten so out of hand. Just like there are people who are turned on or off by body hair or shaved bodies, by people who bareback casually or don't bareback casually, by tattoos or no tattoos, by a college education or no college education, my boss is turned off by the idea of being someone who sleeps with a two additional different people each of the other 29 days of the month. It is not a matter of being judgmental, simply of a visceral reaction just like any other. Therefore he wants someone who limits his client base. Therefore a "popular guy" is the opposite of what I'm looking for.

 

In fact, I have been PMed by at this point two escorts who pride themselves on having other careers and taking on only 5-10 clients a month. That doesn't seemed to get advertised explicitly anywhere (including in their profiles) so I came here looking for some direction, some of which I've received from clients and some from other escorts. I've been direct, honest, respectful and clear.

 

$100 is nothing to my boss, though I never stated that I was having a hard time getting responses. I stated I was having a hard time finding someone who fit his criteria, to get in touch with at all.

 

The good news about your disinterest in people like my boss, Killian, is that they're only interested in people who are interested in them--and though this case is tricky, generally speaking, that is many, many people. So, no love, no loss.

[danneeoo]

Thanks, Steven. That's why I didn't assume but rather asked, somewhat wary because of how touchy some people have been to this thread.

 

I've been doing research on this for a few weeks, and posting for less than a day, but it's hard to keep track of the vast amount of information I've taken in all at once about this world. I will PM you. Thanks!

 

 

I'm not being a wiseass, Danneeoo ... I was just trying to be helpful.

 

I don't know for how long have you been on this Message Forum, but the owner of the now defunct "A-list" in New York has the greatest selection of high-end guys that you seem to be looking for. They don't advertise anywhere and you won't find them on Google.

 

If you're interested feel free to PM me.

 

Cheers!

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

What's going to be funny is if Demanding Billionaire turns out to be more demanding than billionaire and they have to go through this search all over again.

 

I give you Plan B, for your consideration...

 

http://www.amazon.com/Fleshjack-Brent-Corrigan-Butt-Bliss/dp/B006DDDUN2

[danneeoo]

There have been many moments throughout this discussion where I questioned my decision to do that but I suspected (and still do) that it is all information that would come out eventually. I gave as much information as I thought I needed to, to answer questions down the line and minimize time waste. It was, in some ways too, a calling card of sorts, which has worked. It was enough information to convey that I was serious and, for those in the know, that I do actually know about this world and am in it. You might find that extra, but not the clients who have now PMed with suggestions for "underground" guys and escorts who've offered their services.

 

Also, frankly, on the parts about me and my surprise, there is literally no one else I can "talk" to about this work task that I'm finding rather amusing. So yes, I also wanted to share in the novelty of it with someone, even strangers. Honestly I thought others would be amused too. I would have held back on that if I realized it was going to generate so much hostility. Live, learn.

 

 

I do have one final question. What was the point in your original post of including all the details about your boss, your position, the background story and so on? Why does anyone need to know any of that, and how would it help anyway? Your being the trusty assistant to a high stature semi-billionaire is filler.

 

If you're the savvy assistant and are going to be interviewing them yourself, why not be discreet yourself and say: "Hi, I'm looking for a guy who has the following characteristics...?"

[Steven_Draker]

... somewhat wary because of how touchy some people have been to this thread.

 

It's probably because you used the term "ultra high-end" in your title which can cause some people to feel uncomfortable and insecure. It's always best to thread carefully and choose wisely your words when posting here.

[danneeoo]

Know your audience! I thought I was taking my cue from previous threads/the language of the environment. Lesson learned.

 

It's probably because you used the term "ultra high-end" in your title which can cause some people to feel uncomfortable and insecure. It's always best to thread carefully and choose wisely your words when posting here.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

There have been many moments throughout this discussion where I questioned my decision to do that but I suspected (and still do) that it is all information that would come out eventually.

 

How exactly would that information have "come out eventually?" From your über-secretive boss? The escort who doesn't even send pictures and is "torture chamber discreet?"

 

Ummm… no. You can't go on and on about discretion and secrecy and then completely flout your own rule. Indeed, inconsistentency is probably the biggest cause for the dreaded red flag.

[danneeoo]

You seem on a mission to disprove that I'm real. I've been patient and polite because that is my job, but you also seem on a mission too to waste your own time. To each his own.

 

Not as in, it would have come out after hiring, but as in, "Would have come out anyway in this discussion." Imagine...

 

"Hi, I'm looking for x y z..."

 

"Well, I don't understand why you need z..."

 

"And I don't understand why you need y..."

 

"Yeah why don't you just try Person G and you'll be all good..."

 

(9 suggestions later)

 

"Well, the circumstances are more complicated than that. You see, there's facter g to consider and factor f too. And z and y are not up for discussion"

 

"I don't understand your need for z. You're crazy."

 

"I don't understand your need for y either. You need help, and not in finding an escort."

 

(9 suggestions later)

 

"Well, I hate to sounds like everyone is a bad match but there's also factors e and d to consider, which I didn't at first feel the need to say but because it helps clarify."

 

And on and on.

 

You are free to believe whatever you want to believe, about me, about my approach, about your perception of my consistency. You are also free to make as many jokes or posts as you'd like at mine or my boss' expense. I am also free to say I will not be responding to you anymore after this, and then do so.

 

 

How exactly would that information have "come out eventually?" From your über-secretive boss? The escort who doesn't even send pictures and is "torture chamber discreet?"

 

Ummm… no. You can't go on and on about discretion and secrecy and then completely flout your own rule. Indeed, inconsistentency is probably the biggest cause for the dreaded red flag.

[+ Chris Eisenhower]

I'm in a bit of a pickle and looking for direction.

 

I work as a head assistant for a very high-powered, semi-publicly known and moneyed man in New York. He recently informed me, to my surprise, that he would like me to find him a male escort. I say "to my surprise" because... A. As far as I and most people know, he's straight and married. B. I think I may be one of only a handful of people he's every "come out" to. And C. He's never asked me to do something quite like this. It was almost amusing how indirectly he approached the topic. I've never seen him do anything but get to the point with everything else. We have had a number of frank-er discussions since.

 

I was simultaneously shocked and flattered by his request. I've worked with him for years and have prided myself on being a fantastic assistant but I never saw this or the male-on-male thing coming. I also feel a certain happiness about being so trusted by someone I really look up to. That said, for the first time, I find myself failing at carrying out something he's asked me to do, which is find him a male escort.

 

I've gone through all the escorts in the major markets and none exactly fit the bill. I know that sounds nuts but as I read through the forums, I realize that what he's looking for would fit more into some of what was discussed in a recent post about the "ultra high-end" market.

 

Physically, he's not as demanding as might be expected. He wants them to be handsome, have great smile and be in very good shape, but he doesn't need them to be 5% body fat or anything like that. Mid 20s to mid 30s. He's into more of a swimmer build than a muscle god. There are some darker feature preferences but nothing set in stone. They also have to be whip smart, engaging and have a great personality. He has the money to take care of any geographical problems easily so location is not as important. Surely, there are many who could fit the bill in the Rentboy ads and some of you could say, "look at so and so" but...

 

First, he's looking for someone who's absolutely discreet, torture chamber discreet even! And "undercover." Though he doesn't see ever being in public with the escort, he's concerned about doormen at his apartments and in hotels. (The stories I could tell about how indiscreet and gossipy even the highest end of doormen and bellmen can be!) Anyway that rules out anyone who shows their face in their ads, or sends them out at all. He's willing to let me vet them and their faces in person. Quick meet-up with me to chat, fee paid of course.

 

On top of discretion, he wants someone that only takes a few clients a month (or preferably altogether). In regard to the previous discussion on the ultra-high end market, he's not looking to be a "retainer client" per se and he's definitely not looking to be a sugar daddy. Too many strings. He's looking for someone who is just very discerning and very, well, exclusive in taking on clients. What can I say? Everything in his life is about exclusivity. On that previous discussion, someone mentioned guys who only take 3-10 clients at higher rates. That's the kind of guy he's looking for. He'll want to hire 2-3 times a month for multi-hour sessions.

 

I've emailed a number of escorts on RB who look like they could fit the bill based on their (faceless) profiles and lack of reviews but the exchanges have been underwhelming to say the least.

 

So where does one find these more-exclusive working guys? They don't seem to be on Rentboy or any other site I can find. I've contact Dave from m2m and unfortunately, no one he has fits the bill. I've contemplated contacting fashion modeling agencies, though most models I've known wouldn't check the whip-smart and interesting boxes, and obviously that approach is rather risky and potentially insulting (unless someone can attest otherwise)! I've thought about approaching actor agents though same problems as above. Obviously these last two are terrible options and I wouldn't do them even if I've thought them, but you can see how frustrated I'm getting at not being able to do my job.

 

Can anyone point me in the direction of how I might go about finding these more-exclusive escorts? Is there something online I'm missing, some secret door I need to go knock on? Thanks to everyone.

 

You know what—you're probably right. We got off on the wrong foot and you should know that people on this Forum will fall all over themselves to give people helpful information about hiring and having a good time. Because that's what they like to do.

 

That said, let me help you understand what's wrong with your initial post and perhaps this will help you when dealing with skeptical escorts who might distrust your current approach.

 

"I work as a head assistant for a very high-powered, semi-publicly known and moneyed man in New York. He recently informed me, to my surprise, that he would like me to find him a male escort. I say "to my surprise" because... A. As far as I and most people know, he's straight and married. B. I think I may be one of only a handful of people he's every "come out" to. And C. He's never asked me to do something quite like this. It was almost amusing how indirectly he approached the topic. I've never seen him do anything but get to the point with everything else. We have had a number of frank-er discussions since."

 

"I was simultaneously shocked and flattered by his request. I've worked with him for years and have prided myself on being a fantastic assistant but I never saw this or the male-on-male thing coming. I also feel a certain happiness about being so trusted by someone I really look up to. That said, for the first time, I find myself failing at carrying out something he's asked me to do, which is find him a male escort."

 

"I've gone through all the escorts in the major markets and none exactly fit the bill. I know that sounds nuts but as I read through the forums, I realize that what he's looking for would fit more into some of what was discussed in a recent post about the "ultra high-end" market."

Get rid of the stuff in italics, as it's completely unnecessary. Use this instead:

 

 

Hi, I'm Friend A and I'm looking to find an escort for Friend B, who recently told me he'd like to get together with a guy. So I'd like to find one for his... birthday.

 

He wants them to be handsome, have a great smile and be in very good shape. Mid 20s to mid 30s, with a swimmer build and not overly muscular. He likes smarts, and an engaging personality. I can fly someone in if necessary.

 

Discretion is VERY important because of his job and he'd like to meet someone who is "off-the-radar." No porn stars or face shots. If this works, he'll probably hire them again himself on a regular basis.

 

Can you give me a hand or point me in the right direction?

 

Again, good luck in your search.

 

 

[+ WilliamM]

Get rid of the stuff in italics, as it's completely unnecessary. Use this instead:

 

 

Hi, I'm Friend A and I'm looking to find an escort for Friend B, who recently told me he'd like to get together with a guy. So I'd like to find one for his... birthday.

 

He wants them to be handsome, have a great smile and be in very good shape. Mid 20s to mid 30s, with a swimmer build and not overly muscular. He likes smarts, and an engaging personality. I can fly someone in if necessary.

 

Discretion is VERY important because of his job and he'd like to meet someone who is "off-the-radar." No porn stars or face shots. If this works, he'll probably hire them again himself on a regular basis.

 

Can you give me a hand or point me in the right direction?

 

Two points to danneeoo: By giving so much information, you likely received many more responses that expected. What would your closeted boss think if he ever reads this three -- beyond too much information? Also, good luck because it's not over when you find the perfect guy and your boss falls in love.

[nynakedtop]

Is it just me, or has this thread become really really tedious? Wait... let me take that back: is it just me, or did this thread start out by being really, really tedious.

 

I like the reference to A-List (the TV show) because the whole situation sounds like a pilot for a short lived quasi-reality show featuring boring situations featuring boring people with a badly inflated sense of self worth, self importance, and how interesting their lives might be to others.

 

Flame on!

[Racketjock]

Danneeoo is an amazing poster. Don't remember when a brand new poster has made such a splash with an initial post, one with much specificity and dare I say slight controversy. I could give two shits about his authenticity or that of his request and its particulars. My hat is off to many of you for extending the kindness of offering great suggestions. He has learned some mad posting skills in a very short time and become actively engaged consistently, so he is getting something out of the exchange that I guess if of value.

 

Without intending any value judgment on the poster, I would just offer from personal experience (and not needing my PA to do it for me), that one could find a quality escort as he requests through searching ads and the reviews on this forum and find success. Thanks to Hooboy and Daddy and the great guys out there for making that happen.

[olympus]

The author of this thread is going through an elaborate cruise, but he is not fooling anyone. The dead give away is that he is spending large amounts of time and effort to respond and comment on the suggestions made in this thread. That's just a waste of time for him and his "boss," because debate with those responding does not move him and his "boss" any closer to the phony stated objective.

Moreover, these arrangements with the men being sought are easily available through a couple of pimps with national reputations and clientele; they are well known and easily discovered.

[nynakedtop]

I could give two shits about his authenticity or that of his request and its particulars. .

 

Seriously?

[needbodywork]

Without intending any value judgment on the poster, I would just offer from personal experience (and not needing my PA to do it for me), that one could find a quality escort as he requests through searching ads and the reviews on this forum and find success. Thanks to Hooboy and Daddy and the great guys out there for making that happen.

 

Pretty much this. I don't think there's some huge secret network of super hot guys that don't advertise. There are some younger men who may do it discreetly - certain models and bartenders at gay bars, who only go forth if approached with the right number - often four figures. That requires actually going to a bar and approaching people the right way. But even the wealthiest gay men who hire are browsing the escort sites and picking there.

[TUOT89]

The author of this thread is going through an elaborate cruise, but he is not fooling anyone. The dead give away is that he is spending large amounts of time and effort to respond and comment on the suggestions made in this thread. That's just a waste of time for him and his "boss," because debate with those responding does not move him and his "boss" any closer to the phony stated objective.

Moreover, these arrangements with the men being sought are easily available through a couple of pimps with national reputations and clientele; they are well known and easily discovered.

 

...Too much time and too much surprise at the auction prices for art. What multimillionaire isn't buying art these days? All so curious.

[+ Robster]

There's not. If there was I'd be trying to get into that club.

Yeah, I don't think you'd have any trouble getting in.

 

Rob

[+ WilliamM]

In the early part of the last decade, there was an escort agency in New York called Wow that specialized in high-class models/fashion industry guys with jobs who needed extra money. No photos, no head shot, but you had to deal with the owner who set things up. It was a good agency. But, escort agencies are mostly a thing of the past. Too bad for Mr. Moneybags and his assistant.

[Guest Starbuck]

By giving so much information, you likely received many more responses that expected. What would your closeted boss think if he ever reads this ... ?

 

This is one of the dead giveaways. DISCRETION is expected of escorts. DISCRETION is expected of high level executive assistants.

[rvwnsd]

What was the screen name of the obnoxious attorney who bragged about sending his assistant off to find him escorts?

[Guest Starbuck]

Danneeoo is an amazing poster. He has learned some mad posting skills in a very short time ...

 

Amazing, huh? Danneeoo took what seemed like nonsense yesterday and made it look like a mental health issue today.

 

And what leads you to assume he's a novice poster and a quick learner as opposed to someone we already know using a different screen name?

[rvwnsd]

What was the screen name of the obnoxious attorney who bragged about sending his assistant off to find him escorts?

 

I should have researched before I posted. citylaw1 is the guy. Maybe danneeoo is citylaw1's assistant.

[danneeoo]

A good conversation with my boss this later afternoon about adjusting expectations, which he's thinking on. To answer your question, he's found this whole thing, which he looked over for a bit out of curiosity, quite amusing because he knows an anonymous profile online is meaningless, he's impressed by how much I've cloaked things, and because he knows how much I like a good banter. Whether I would have received so many replies with less info, I might also have received fewer PMs. I do know that thanks to that I have new leads to follow, so there's that.

 

Two points to danneeoo: By giving so much information, you likely received many more responses that expected. What would your closeted boss think if he ever reads this three -- beyond too much information? Also, good luck because it's not over when you find the perfect guy and your boss falls in love.

[danneeoo]

Is it just me, or has this thread become really really tedious? Wait... let me take that back: is it just me, or did this thread start out by being really, really tedious.

 

I like the reference to A-List (the TV show) because the whole situation sounds like a pilot for a short lived quasi-reality show featuring boring situations featuring boring people with a badly inflated sense of self worth, self importance, and how interesting their lives might be to others.

 

Flame on!

 

Yet here you are involving yourself in the tediousness of being the umpteenth person to chime in that you think I'm fake, on top of the tediousness of the post to begin with. Badge in irony for you.