Is the increase in bareback porn changing the way clients view escorts?

[SteveEscort]

I do a similar blood test that's mailed back

 

In England it's completely free of charge. I don't know if it's chargeable elsewhere

[SteveEscort]

Thank you to everyone so far who agreed with me

 

I see red when I read ignorance.

 

Sex workers are some of the safest people to have a sexual liaison with and who value their sexual health. I've nothing to gain from spreading disease to married men.

 

I don't always get it right on this forum but most of you are decent enough to accept cultural differences but the basic facts about sexual health are on the fingertips of anyone with a computer, tablet or smartphone so when I read misinformation I get a teensy bit annoyed

 

Steve x

[+ Funguy]

Thank you to everyone so far who agreed with me

 

I see red when I read ignorance.

 

Sex workers are some of the safest people to have a sexual liaison with and who value their sexual health. I've nothing to gain from spreading disease to married men.

 

I don't always get it right on this forum but most of you are decent enough to accept cultural differences but the basic facts about sexual health are on the fingertips of anyone with a computer, tablet or smartphone so when I read misinformation I get a teensy bit annoyed

 

Steve x

 

Steve - I absolutely agree with all you have said.

 

My question - do you think the fact that sex work is legal in the UK has anything to do with the differences in the way we might play here as well as perhaps a difference in attitude?

 

Funguy

[SteveEscort]

That's where our healthcare is such a godsend. For £120 a year any working person can have completely free prescriptions for a year (any argument over healthcare for another day though please)

[SteveEscort]

Steve - I absolutely agree with all you have said.

 

My question - do you think the fact that sex work is legal in the UK has anything to do with the differences in the way we might play here as well as perhaps a difference in attitude?

 

Funguy

 

There's certainly no fear of police surveillance, receiving test calls or cold calls. Clients are rarely troubled with the police unless it's underage, illegal immigrants etc or people forced against their will. It just doesn't go on. It is illegal to run brothels etc but working on your own like me is completely legal.

 

On a day to day basis you don't have to look over your shoulder, you can answer blocked numbers and gmail and hotmail email accounts knowing it's not entrapment and you can call on the police to come to your aid if you are attacked or harassed by a client. They have to be sympathetic and they have to follow up any complaint you make.

 

I do a local study for a university on what sort of clients I see, I get free condoms posted to me by the health authority and I can be tested for all my (things) so to speak with complete disclosure about what I've been doing

 

To answer you honestly and in one sentence, I would say "It makes for a much nicer experience"

[Steven_Draker]

I see red when I read ignorance.

 

Sex workers are some of the safest people to have a sexual liaison with and who value their sexual health. I've nothing to gain from spreading disease to married men.

 

I don't always get it right on this forum but most of you are decent enough to accept cultural differences but the basic facts about sexual health are on the fingertips of anyone with a computer, tablet or smartphone so when I read misinformation I get a teensy bit annoyed

 

Aren't we a bit pollyanna today, Steve?

 

Why would you assume that your reality is the one of all sex workers out there?

 

Overgeneralizing that "Sex workers are some of the safest people to have a sexual liaison with and who value their sexual health" is naive and simplistic at best. I conclude that you're either promoting your agenda or you don't know many sex workers very well.

 

I doubt the reality of those facts are on the "fingertips of anyone with a computer, tablet or smartphone".

[Steven_Draker]

Next to nothing medically-related is free in the US! Both the oral and the blood tests are in the $40-45 range.

 

If you live in a larger metropolitan area, another option would be to visit one of the LGBT Community Centers to get an anonymous and free of charge HIV test.

[SteveEscort]

Aren't we a bit pollyanna today, Steve?

 

Why would you assume that your reality is the one of all sex workers out there?

 

Overgeneralizing that "Sex workers are some of the safest people to have a sexual liaison with and who value their sexual health" is naive and simplistic at best. I conclude that you're either promoting your agenda or you don't know many sex workers very well.

 

I doubt the reality of those facts are on the "fingertips of anyone with a computer, tablet or smartphone".

 

Promoting my agenda... and what agenda might that be. I've never promoted anything on this forum.

 

I'm quoting from experience. I've been working as an escort for over 14 years and if you care to follow my twitter account (I know you have one as I followed you for a while) it won't take you five minutes to realise that I know hundreds of sex workers and I am personal friends with lots and lots of influential female and male sex workers.

 

If you can't find any statistics online, I'll gladly point you in the right direction but please don't patronise me. I like you and your posts a lot and even you know that are many sex worker resource sites in the UK and abroad that will reiterate what I say.

 

There are bad sex workers out there. I don't think the average gentleman on here is frequenting their company and therefore my generalisation is based on the typical high end escort who prides themselves on the work then do

[+ quoththeraven]

Could I ask a couple of questions.

1. Does anyone know a person who has never received anal sex but only received oral sex who is positive?

2. I have difficulty figuring how to get regularly tested in my small home town as a closet guy. I am traveling less but my usual testing is when I am away from home. Is that swab test available in pharmacies? Can I purchase it somewhere and keep it for future testing?

Thank you.

 

FWIW, the Wikipedia article on HIV/AIDS says While the risk of transmission from oral sex is relatively low, it is still present.^[38] The risk from receiving oral sex has been described as "nearly nil";^[39]however, a few cases have been reported. ^[40]The footnote to that last statement cites the Oxford handbook of genitourinary medicine, HIV, and sexual health from the Oxford University Press. I'm not in a position to buy or go looking for it, but presuming that it supports the statement, that seems like an authoritative source.

 

A quick Google search also turned this up: http://www.sfaf.org/hiv-info/basics/can-i-get-hiv-from-oral.html?gclid=CjkKEQjw_ZmdBRD1qNKXhomX_sEBEiQAc9XNUP3Yf6grnNRFqkKr-Km6MZHF0R6OXAc0W8_uY79RHavw_wcB Oral sex is much less risky than anal or vaginal sex – but HIV still can enter through open cuts and sores, or possibly by infecting the lining of the mouth. There are some documented cases of people getting HIV through their mouth. Once semen gets past the mouth, stomach acid and enzymes in the esophagus kill the virus. So swallowing or spitting out semen (cum or precum) reduces your risk for HIV, compared with letting it sit in your mouth.

 

Any one of you could have found these if you'd just looked. They certainly beat relying on rumor and fellow Forum member's opinions.

Aren't we a bit pollyanna today, Steve?

 

Why would you assume that your reality is the one of all sex workers out there?

 

Overgeneralizing that "Sex workers are some of the safest people to have a sexual liaison with and who value their sexual health" is naive and simplistic at best. I conclude that you're either promoting your agenda or you don't know many sex workers very well.

 

I doubt the reality of those facts are on the "fingertips of anyone with a computer, tablet or smartphone".

 

Ahaha, when I originally wrote my earlier contribution to this thread, I included (but then deleted) a statement that clients are more likely to be the problem here than top-rated escorts. My reasoning was that top-rated escorts have an economic and reputational incentive to learn about sexual health and remain STI-free. Economic in that STIs would require refraining from engaging in business for a period of time, reputational because of the damage done to their reputation if an escort became known as a disease vector. Can you imagine the havoc that would occur if it turned out that an escort passed an STI along to a client, especially if that STI were HIV? Goodbye, clientele. If the escort has assets of any worth, he might as well bid them goodbye as well because litigation will undoubtedly ensue.

 

If we're talking about hustlers, runaways, the homeless, and foreign nationals who've been trafficked or exploited, or substance abusers, whether they're supporting their habit by turning tricks or just happen to have fallen prey to substance abuse, that's an entirely different matter. They're probably higher risk populations than either the average client or top-rated escorts. But that doesn't change the above logic. And if anyone feels that's an incorrect assessment (and I emphasize the word "feels" here, because I think the logic of it is self-evident), he can always use a condom or insist that the escort use a condom, depending on who's doing what. Problem solved.

[SteveEscort]

Ahaha, when I originally wrote my earlier contribution to this thread, I included a statement that clients are more likely to be the problem here than top-rated escorts. My reasoning was that top-rated escorts have an economic and reputational incentive to learn about sexual health and remain STI-free.

 

If we're talking about hustlers, runaways, the homeless, and foreign nationals who've been trafficked or exploited, or substance abusers, whether they're supporting their habit by turning tricks or just happen to have fallen prey to substance abuse, that's an entirely different matter.

 

Thank you

 

Someone talking some sense and who can find information on a tablet, computer or smartphone with ease

 

My points were entirely based on my side of the work... that being the work of the "top rated escorts"

[+ quoththeraven]

Well if Wikipedia said it then it MUST be true, Lol. Ultimately, the "experts" have no choice but to rely on the people who contacted the virus to tell them what risky behavior they engaged in. That being the case, I would think many folks would just as soon downplay the extent of their sexual activities. So there's no way to know if the person who "claims" they seroconverted as a result of "just" having had oral sex, actually seroconverted as a result of unprotected anal sex, sharing needles, etc.

 

Honestly, you don't think the researchers are bright enough to figure that out? Generally speaking, reputable medical/public health officials are circumspect about the claims they make, hence the cautious, risk-avoiding advice on avoiding transmission of HIV and other STIs.

 

Here's one way it could go down: Both people involved are tested and have the identical virus. (From what I understand, different strains are sufficiently distinct to be identified. This was explained in a description of confirmed woman-to-woman transmission, which is exceedingly rare.) Both confirm that they've only engaged in oral sex. So it's not a reliance on one person's word. Yes, maybe both of them are lying to make themselves look better, but there could also be other reasons to believe what they're saying.

 

Of course Wikipedia can be wrong. But you're completely overlooking the documentation, which, as I said, I don't have the resources to track back to its source. Plus I've found two sources that say the same thing. That's still more than anyone else on this thread has presented so far.

[Steven_Draker]

That's still more than anyone else on this thread has presented so far.

 

You may also want to check previous contributions on the subject here on the Forum with direct quotes to sources.

[SteveEscort]

For those who can't find any stats or don't know where to look, I have found a site that gives you a fair understanding in laymans terms as to the risk everyone faces

 

http://www.thebodypro.com/content/68672/putting-a-number-on-it-the-risk-from-an-exposure-t.html

[Steven_Draker]

As for the young men thinking it's 'just a few pills a day', that's the fault of BIG PHARMA continual diluting of the hazards of HIV meds.

 

PRESS RELEASE

 

Hollywood Shakes Up Politics & Big Pharma

 

The movie "The Constant Gardener" Gains Grassroots Support

 

Eileen Dannemann, the director of the National Coalition of Organized Women, announced today that NCOW is administrating an initiative to fire up the grassroots networks to promote the new blockbuster hit movie, The Constant Gardener. Grassroots lobbyists are hitting the streets and the members of Congress with flyers and materials urging everyone to run out ASAP to see the movie about Big Pharma and Tessa, the little engine that could.

 

Alluding to AIDS is very subtly handled in the movie

 

Tessa, (Rachel Weisz) a grassroots activist in Africa, married, ever so romantically, to diplomat husband played by Ralph Fiennes finds out that GKS is testing unapproved, dangerous drugs on the African population and hiding the adverse reactions, burying the unfortunate victims. "It is interesting, how the movie starts off early on alluding to AIDS, says Ms. Dannemann.. "Most people might miss the subtle reference that is why I point it out," she comments.

 

more: http://www.i-newswire.com/hollywood-shakes-up-politics-big/a45935