Kobe Bryant

[axebahia]

>Oh, I see. You don't think it's an insult to call a woman a

>slut, but you wouldn't apply that term to yourself if someone

>you know asked you about your sex life. And that is because .

>. . ?

 

No, can't you read. I said I was a slut above. I just pointed out that the analogy is not to the relevance of that statement in my work life, but rather in the event that I ever accuse anyone of rape. Do you get it now?

 

>Right. But since you are telling us that this particular

>woman is a slut, I have assumed you know some specific facts

>about her behavior that would lead you to make that judgment.

>Sounds like you don't.

 

In the case of Mike Tyson's accuser, I described the conduct above. In Kobe's case, I suggest you read the Internet sites devoted to the subject. I think some of that evidence will come in.

[ServeUncutUncle]

>I just don't understand how anyone could be against any law

>that encourages women to come forward and testify against a

>rapist without fear of being castigated as deserving it

>because of her past sexual history. I believe the law was

>instituted because of the vicious attack that women suffered

>at the hands of the defense attorneys, and since they would

>not testify, it let rapists repeat the offense over and over

>(this is what I meant by a serial rapist, I never meant that

>he was a convicted rapist and his past had a bearing).

>

>Of course it is common sense that there is a difference

>between a violent attack and rape by a stranger and what is

>called "date rape".

>But I really don't comprehend, regardless of the situation,

>how anyone could possibly justify the violation of one person

>by another person.

>

>Really guys, it does not matter whether the victim is a nun, a

>saint or a prostitute, rape is an act of violence, and I can

>not imagine a more vile act against one's person, than rape.

>The main flaw I see in these posts is that everyone is looking

>at rape as a sexual act rather than an act of violence,

>subjugation and control. I don't care how much the other

>party has led you on, has got you stoked, etc. NOTHING GIVES

>YOU THE RIGHT to proceed against the other party's will.

>

>It really is a crock of bullshit that anyone should try to

>justify that violence and deny that it is an INDIVIDUAL act of

>violence just because of the "alledged victim's" prior sexual

>history. Nothing is under trial here but this specific

>accusation, and nothing should be considered in this case but

>the facts of this case, regardless of the accuser's or

>defendent's prior history, criminal or otherwise.

>

>Regardless of the rape shield law, how could anyone possibly

>say that a prostitute who is raped suffers less pyschological

>trauma than a virgin? RAPE IS ABOUT VIOLENCE NOT SEX!!!

>

>All of the posters spouting this bs have probably never been a

>victim of violence. If you want to know what it feels like

>ask anyone who has been a victim. Ask them how angry she/he

>feels. Ask her/him how much they want to strike back. Ask

>her/him how much they question their own actions and

>worthiness as a human being. I can't imagine anything more

>devastating than having someone violate you sexually.

>

>The total disrespect toward women that I have seen in the

>majority of the postings on this thread is DISGUSTING!!!!

>It is this very attitude by males that led to the rape shield

>law in the first place. DUH!! Control your cock, don't let it

>control you!

>

>And you know what dudes, men are victims of rape also. How

>would you feel if you said no to your date, he ignored you and

>forcibly penetrated you, but because of your promiscuity as a

>gay man, your accusations were dismissed? After all, based

>on your sexual history you are a cock loving slut just asking

>for it, right?

>

>Anyone excusing rape, under any circumstance, should hang his

>head in shame.

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[ServeUncutUncle]

Why is it when I stay in a Hotel I can hear someone having a Crap three rooms away. Yet in this instance it appears, nobody heard somebody SCREEM whilst being agressively raped?

 

 

Or was she quitely enjoying it at the time then decided it was rape later.

[axebahia]

>Or was she quitely enjoying it at the time then decided it was

>rape later.

 

BINGO!

[woodlawn]

>Why is it when I stay in a Hotel I can hear someone having a

>Crap three rooms away. Yet in this instance it appears, nobody

>heard somebody SCREEM whilst being agressively raped?

 

Possibly because Bryant stays in hotel rooms that are somewhat higher on the quality scale than the ones you use? I have a feeling he doesn't book through Priceline.

 

>Or was she quitely enjoying it at the time then decided it was

>rape later.

 

 

You know, before I started reading this board, if anyone had told me that there are a lot of gay men who share the attitudes toward women that are held by the very same right wing types who also deride gays, I would have thought he was nuts. Now I know better. It seems that no matter how much a minority group demands tolerance and understanding from others, it can still harbor (and practice) intolerance toward others.