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No ... I know what you'd say about that ... I'm asking about ESCORT RESPONSE TIME. Say you've sent an inquiry for his time via email (which he indicates as an acceptable means of contact). How soon would you expect him to respond? How willing are you to consider perfectly reasonable excuses for delay--or is there some generally understood expectation that an escort should always respond within "X" amount of time? If you're just curious about the delay (not annoyed about it), do you shoot him another email (or, alternatively, pick up the phone) before you move on?

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It depends. If I am in a "RIGHT NOW" mood, perhaps an hour. If the need/urge is not immediate, perhaps 24 hours. I do prefer to make the initial contact by email so that I can outline, briefly, what I am looking for and a little bit about me (nothing specific that one could hang one's hat on just in case someone else reads the email (such as law enforcement). I give both my email address and a phone number for the escort to respond. I do tend to stick with established business relationships first, so the escort or masseur knows it is "me" when I contact them. For those where the business relationship is new to both of us, I'll give them some slack and, if there is no response, will at least try them one more time the next time I am in a hiring mood--either RIGHT NOW or for an appointment within 24 hours.

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I think it depends when you are making the contact. If you send an email on Friday afternoon, and your chosen guy offers travel for weekend engagements, you might not hear back until Monday. That's understandable. Other times, I think email response in this day and age of smartphones can be as fast as texting...a matter of minutes. I usually don't think anything of next day responses.

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How willing are you to consider perfectly reasonable excuses for delay--?
i hope you didn't mean that the way you wrote it. I see it as simply an interpersonal communication. The escort doesn't owe my any excuse for any delay in returning my inquiry. He'll, it's perfectly acceptable for him to totally ignore my inquiry.

 

If you're just curious about the delay (not annoyed about it), do you shoot him another email (or, alternatively, pick up the phone) before you move on?
i will contact him as often as I get the urge until he responds or I tire of initiating an inquiry.
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I hope you didn't mean that the way you wrote it. I see it as simply an interpersonal communication. The escort doesn't owe me any excuse for any delay in returning my inquiry. Hell, it's perfectly acceptable for him to totally ignore my inquiry.

 

I don't understand your first line (unless you're hearing the word "excuses" in a different way than I intended it).

 

Let me rephrase ... I was asking if you, as a prospective client, would be inclined to believe that an escort could have any number of valid reasons/circumstances that might cause a longer-than-anticipated time between a client inquiry and a response - OR IF - alternatively, you would be put-off/offended by receiving no response after "X" amount of time. (Meaning: Is there some generally expected "X" for these communications?)

 

I completely agree with you that an escort doesn't owe me any explanation for any delay in responding. (Although I think most of us would regard that as a courteous gesture--almost a reflex--if we took what seemed a longer-than-usual time to respond to a customer. That's how I've always handled things in my professional life.)

 

I disagree that anyone conducting a business is free to flat-out ignore polite inquiries from prospective customers. That's just unprofessional. And self-defeating. If you can't do business with me, tell me.

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I don't understand your first line (unless you're hearing the word "excuses" in a different way than I intended it).

 

Let me rephrase ... I was asking if you, as a prospective client, would be inclined to believe that an escort could have any number of valid reasons/circumstances that might cause a longer-than-anticipated time between a client inquiry and a response - OR IF - alternatively, you would be put-off/offended by receiving no response after "X" amount of time. (Meaning: Is there some generally expected "X" for these communications?)

I'm most inclined to believe that it is none of my business whatever said untimely escort's delayed response reason(s) may be. I don't see the escort as under obligation to give any response, timely or untimely, appropriate or inappropriate, to my inquiry. He either does or he doesn't. I don't care what his reasons are for any delay in his response - why he was 'delayed' is none of my business.

 

I completely agree with you that an escort doesn't owe me any explanation for any delay in responding. (Although I think most of us would regard that as a courteous gesture--almost a reflex--if we took what seemed a longer-than-usual time to respond to a customer. That's how I've always handled things in my professional life.)

 

I disagree that anyone conducting a business is free to flat-out ignore polite inquiries from prospective customers. That's just unprofessional. And self-defeating. If you can't do business with me, tell me.[/Quote]By your reasoning I should respond favorably to every direct-marketing mail piece, spam email and telemarketing call with a... Response? No, I think not

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No ... I know what you'd say about that ... I'm asking about ESCORT RESPONSE TIME. Say you've sent an inquiry for his time via email (which he indicates as an acceptable means of contact). How soon would you expect him to respond? How willing are you to consider perfectly reasonable excuses for delay--or is there some generally understood expectation that an escort should always respond within "X" amount of time? If you're just curious about the delay (not annoyed about it), do you shoot him another email (or, alternatively, pick up the phone) before you move on?

 

I'd say call him and leave a message. 'I sent you an email on ...' If he doesn't return your call or email, move on.

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I think it certainly depends on the guy, too. If you know it is a guy who travels a lot, you might need to add a lot more time. If he has a website, check for travel schedule, and if he's out of the country, don't expect an immediate answer. If it's a local guy, I'd say certainly within a day. If I had a more "urgent" request, I'd call rather than email, anyway.

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Well as Lee says it "depends on the guy"... I recently had a bit of correspondence with a working guy and since he tends to travel I checked his posted schedule. I suggested a date and time well in advance for when he would be in my general area... and it has been days and I have not received a response... even if the time suggested would not work into his agenda I would hope that he would at least realize that a potential client should be given the courtesy of a response even if it is to decline the offer.

 

Based on what I have been told by others the guy is a 'total flake'... albeit a 'hot total flake' who most likely has no clue regarding scheduling even though he means well... at least I think that he means well... In any event, I hope that he means well. However, he is just about at the end of his rope... I have cut him enough slack... and if he can't run his operation satisfactorily in the scheduling phase then chances are he is won't satisfy where it ultimately counts... Plus my time is just as valuable as is his... Escorts need to understand that. I might give him a bit of a nudge just in case there is a valid reason for the delay... otherwise I'm about ready to "move on".

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I think too many times people just over-think this whole process and make it more difficult than it really should be. Everyone has their own style and their own expectations when communicating with someone. Let your own expectations and tolerances guide you. It's typically the best way.

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By your reasoning I should respond favorably to every direct-marketing mail piece, spam email and telemarketing call with a... Response? No, I think not

 

That's not my reasoning. Your examples are of a seller contacting a buyer. A buyer with no interest is always free to ignore the solicitation. I was speaking of a buyer contacting a seller--politely and affirmatively responding to the seller's marketing of his business.

 

... I would hope that he would at least realize that a potential client should be given the courtesy of a response even if it is to decline the offer ... Plus my time is just as valuable as is his ... Escorts need to understand that..

 

Yeah. What he said.

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THE RESOLUTION ... (surprise, it wasn't a hypothetical) ... I received an affirmative response 48 hours after my email inquiry. We're on!

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How soon would you expect him to respond? How willing are you to consider perfectly reasonable excuses for delay--or is there some generally understood expectation that an escort should always respond within "X" amount of time? If you're just curious about the delay (not annoyed about it), do you shoot him another email (or, alternatively, pick up the phone) before you move on?
You started with perfectly reasonable excuses - to which I respond, perfect and reasonable are only in the eyes of the inquirer reading them. Even using the word, excuses, grates on me because there is no deal yet and already the inquirer is expressing an expectation of excuses from an escort for what the inquirer perceives as a delay in initial response. Then you ask about generally understood expectation. There are as many generally understood expectations as there are clients. To each his own. Let the escort live his life without a inquirer judging the escort by his response time.

 

I don't understand your first line (unless you're hearing the word "excuses" in a different way than I intended it).

 

Let me rephrase ... I was asking if you, as a prospective client, would be inclined to believe that an escort could have any number of valid reasons/circumstances that might cause a longer-than-anticipated time between a client inquiry and a response - OR IF - alternatively, you would be put-off/offended by receiving no response after "X" amount of time. (Meaning: Is there some generally expected "X" for these communications?)

I believe you understood exactly what I was saying. Your rephrasing was like putting lipstick on a pig - valid reasons/circumstances = perfectly reasonable excuses - you're still judging the escort by expecting valid reasons and perfectly reasonable excuses for any delay you perceive in his response time. REALLY? I don't need valid excuses or perfectly reasonable reasons/circumstances from an escort. If I get a positive response, I move forward to negotiating an appointment. If I get a negative response or no response, I move on and I have a whole a lot less paperwork. Live and let live. Don't begin judging an escort by his response time to your first inquiry.

 

I completely agree with you that an escort doesn't owe me any explanation for any delay in responding. (Although I think most of us would regard that as a courteous gesture--almost a reflex--if we took what seemed a longer-than-usual time to respond to a customer. That's how I've always handled things in my professional life.)
You completely agree with me? The why the BUT? Excuse me, ALTHOUGH? The escort's professionalism is on display in how fast he responds? No, HOW he responds when he does is far more important to me.

 

I disagree that anyone conducting a business is free to flat-out ignore polite inquiries from prospective customers. That's just unprofessional. And self-defeating. If you can't do business with me, tell me.
You're definitely not everybody. If an escort reads your email and immediately is put-off by something you said, why should he waste his time and effort offending you by responding NO? Why can't he just delete your message without responding? How does your inquiry place any obligation on him for a response?

 

I think too many times people just over-think this whole process and make it more difficult than it really should be. Everyone has their own style and their own expectations when communicating with someone. Let your own expectations and tolerances guide you. It's typically the best way.
AGREED and the lower my expectations, the lower my chance to be disappointed.

 

That's not my reasoning. Your examples are of a seller contacting a buyer. A buyer with no interest is always free to ignore the solicitation. I was speaking of a buyer contacting a seller--politely and affirmatively responding to the seller's marketing of his business.
I knew you'd take that tack! But you're not the BUYER, YET! For there to be a transaction, there has to be an exchange of goods and services for money. (And if you read very far in this forum, the money is exchanged at the completion of the appointment.) You are NOT A BUYER, you are an inquirer. You are only attempting to begin a negotiation not closing a deal. Yet, you seem all twisted around excuses, expectations and timeliness of the response to an initial inquiry. You could quite possibly miss out on the greatest escort experience ever, simply because you're setting yourself up to judge response time / validity of reasons/circumstances and the perfection and reasonability of excuses. Rather I would just go with the flow. Live and let live...
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I'm most inclined to believe that it is none of my business whatever said untimely escort's delayed response reason(s) may be. I don't see the escort as under obligation to give any response, timely or untimely, appropriate or inappropriate, to my inquiry. He either does or he doesn't. I don't care what his reasons are for any delay in his response - why he was 'delayed' is none of my business.

 

By your reasoning I should respond favorably to every direct-marketing mail piece, spam email and telemarketing call with a... Response? No, I think not

 

A client sending an escort an e-mail is nothing like spam e-mail. In the latter, a company is sending thousands (probably more like tens of thousands) of people e-mails in the hopes of attracting a sale--it's simply an advertisement. In the former, a customer is indicating that he's interested in the escort's business. In effect, this is the opposite situation, since the client is responding to the escort's advertisement. While the escort does not "owe" the potential client a response, not even responding to such an e-mail is rude. If the escort has an ad/website which invites clients to e-mail him, common courtesy as well as good business sense dictate at least a brief, 30-second response. I would certainly expect an escort (especially one who invites e-mail responses) to answer an e-mail within 24 hours, since there are very few situations in which an escort can't get a hold of e-mail within that period of time. I can certainly think of situations in which one does not have access to the internet--out camping in the woods, on a safari in Botswana, or incarceration come to mind--but these are probably rare instances for most escorts. Even if the escort is on a trip with a client, he will have internet access in most instances. When I hire an escort on a trip, I understand that he must respond to business inquiries (as long as it isn't interrupting something we're in the middle of doing, of course).

If an escort takes longer than 24 hours, he doesn't again owe me an explanation (I wouldn't expect him to fess up to an incarceration, for example). However, he would certainly show good business sense to at least acknowledge the delay "Sorry about the delay in my response...". Escorts who blow off inquiries raise a major red flag in my book with respect to customer service. Just as with most businesses, if they don't provide good customer service, I will tend to take my business elsewhere.

While this does not apply to all or even most escorts, there are some escorts out there who escort because their interpersonal skills are so bad (perhaps due to personality disorders or drugs, for example) that they can't hold down a regular job. These are the escorts I hope to avoid in my hiring. I would rather hire someone who actually enjoys providing a service and deal with people.

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I never book same day appointments. I also tend to stick to escorts I know and if I’m looking for a new guy those who are well reviewed on this site. With those caveats in mind it all depends on: 1.) My mood and 2.) How much I want to get together with the guy. If I’m in a tolerant mood and really want to get together with the escort I will cut him some slack. As I’ve gotten older and the thrill of hiring has run its course I am less likely to be tolerant and I frequently take the attitude that if he doesn’t respond quickly well there are many other fish in the pond. It’s now pretty much a given that if an escort I email doesn’t respond within four or five days I will write him off. If he responds later I am likely to ignore his email. The older I get the more I look upon the hiring experience as being a buyer’s market and that if things don’t go MY way I simply walk away. I recently had an extremely well thought of escort cancel an appointment with me the day before we were scheduled to meet. He claimed he had misread the arrival time of his flight and would not be in the area for our appointment. He apologized profusely and asked if we could reschedule. I would bet a great deal of money that he was telling the truth. I thanked him for his offer but declined. I have the attitude that if a guy f----ks up on our first appointment, for whatever reason, that’s the end. Unreasonable – certainly but it IS a buyers marked and his life would be ruined without the income from our appointment and my life won’t be ruined by not getting together with him.

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but it IS a buyers marked and his life would be ruined without the income from our appointment and my life won’t be ruined by not getting together with him.

 

That sounds a bit pompous and assuming on your part doesn't it?

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That sounds a bit pompous and assuming on your part doesn't it?

May sound pompous but it's a good attitude for buyers. You also don't hear from Epigonos about bad hires either. His experience and attitude help him succeed in his hiring.

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"but it IS a buyers marked and his life would be ruined without the income from our appointment and my life won’t be ruined by not getting together with him."

 

JoshChgo I can certainly see why you would come to the conclusion you did based on the above sentence. Unfortunately I was very careless when writing it.

 

It should have read: "but it IS a buyer’s market and his life would NOT be ruined without the income from our appointment and my life wouldn’t be ruined by not getting together with him."

 

Fortunately at my age I know myself extremely well. The one thing I most definitely am NOT is pompous. Now if, on the other hand, you had written that my post sounded like that of an arrogant, self-satisfied asshole I might have agreed with you.

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Now if, on the other hand, you had written that my post sounded like that of an arrogant, self-satisfied asshole I might have agreed with you.
Two Questions, please.

1. Are you suggesting you masturbate (self-satisfied)? TEASING YOU!

2. Aren't all the satisfied, self-satisfied, (asshole is optional)? ☺

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"but it IS a buyers marked and his life would be ruined without the income from our appointment and my life won’t be ruined by not getting together with him."

 

JoshChgo I can certainly see why you would come to the conclusion you did based on the above sentence. Unfortunately I was very careless when writing it.

 

It should have read: "but it IS a buyer’s market and his life would NOT be ruined without the income from our appointment and my life wouldn’t be ruined by not getting together with him."

 

Fortunately at my age I know myself extremely well. The one thing I most definitely am NOT is pompous. Now if, on the other hand, you had written that my post sounded like that of an arrogant, self-satisfied asshole I might have agreed with you.

 

Got it! Thanks.

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IDK... There's all kind of reasons for delayed correspondence from either Escorts or Clients~

I'm a touring Courtesan. Situations I've run into are:

1).Traveling abroad implies time zone changes, cell phone rates expenses and reception of variable access. Sometimes I will send an email while traveling abroad and the recipient doesn't receive it for days or I do t receive their replies~ Airport time plus flights that can be 15 to 20hrs long and may include short layovers and time zone changes can have an impact on communication.

2). It's an assumption that all Clients allow/are tolerant of their Escorts being on the phone, texting or calling other Clients while on their dollar~ Sometimes they feel jealous or ignored or simply offended if their Escort is conducting business while traveling with them.

3). If the Escort is with his Client for a session, an overnight where playtime is an all night thing, calling/texting/emailing seems/can be inappropriate. Especially, given that any number of Clients don't limit their inquiries to one email/text or call but, rather the general tendency is that once the line of communication has started, it's ongoing up until, during and after a session meeting... In a variety of instances communication is ongoing as the relationship between Client/Escort can be ongoing as well, lasting months, years, a lifetime~

4). I've been in situations where there is no cell reception in some of the following places while traveling with a Client: volcanoes, rivers/rafts, sex camp in the mountains except at camp site, while diving, during sex, while dining, airplanes, buses, trains, hiking, skydiving, exercising, during tours with tour guides, while filming or on set, when you're communicating with Clients you are meeting on a current trip and also planning to meet on upcoming travel engagements up to six months ahead... If I'm doing some other work and am in an "employee" company/corporate environment,

If I am sleeping. If I'm tending to someone, (Family, Client,Friend), who is dying/dead, having surgery or is sick~ (All of these has happened).

There is an "on call" nature to being an Escort/Courtesan. So, communication time as well as actual time with Clients is blended together. Sometimes it's harmonious and sometimes it's less so...

Tyger~

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http://www.tygerscent.biz

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traveling abroad right now. Contacting me thru the free Viber app allows us to communicate free local, long distance and international~

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two things i pride myself on as an escort: 1. Responding same day to all contacts. This surprises my new clients becasue so many guys take several days or a week to answer. I try to accomodate right now or same day appointments bbecause I know that not everyone can always plan ahead. HOWEVER......... 2. I NEVER answer my phone, text or email while I am WITH a client. So if I have a 24 or 48 hour booking there may be a time whern it takes me two days to answer. I feel that it is rude for escorts to conduct biz and arrange future appointments while a current client is contracting for my time! http://www.rentboy.com/magicmikey

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...Especially, given that any number of Clients don't limit their inquiries to one email/text or call but, rather the general tendency is that once the line of communication has started, it's ongoing up until, during and after a session meeting...

 

Omg, what do they write about? Were they looking for an email pal?

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Well my work number is linked to my blackberry. From an escorts perspective, I try to get back to my clients ASAP. Unless I'm in a session/date or on an airplane. Other than that I'm on my calls immediately. However I do have to say that I do prefer texting over emailing cause unfortunately there are so many glitches/delays I find with many top escort sites when you try to email from there site. I have missed so many emails from clients which I later come to find out. Its just best to pick up the phone call and if I don't pick up text me. It is BEST to call from your personal phone never a blocked. My phone automatically unblocks all blocked calls so there is always a surprise for the client when they receive a call back and they hear me say Yes baby its Amir... LOL :cool:

No ... I know what you'd say about that ... I'm asking about ESCORT RESPONSE TIME. Say you've sent an inquiry for his time via email (which he indicates as an acceptable means of contact). How soon would you expect him to respond? How willing are you to consider perfectly reasonable excuses for delay--or is there some generally understood expectation that an escort should always respond within "X" amount of time? If you're just curious about the delay (not annoyed about it), do you shoot him another email (or, alternatively, pick up the phone) before you move on?

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